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The Great Recession that began in 2007 appears to have taken more than a financial toll. New research suggests that the economic downturn could be linked with more than 10,000 suicides across North America and Europe. The study found that between 2008 and 2010, rates of suicide surged in the European Union, Canada and the United States. The increase was four times higher among men than women, according to the report published in the current issue of the British Journal of Psychiatry. "There has been a substantial rise in suicides during the recession, greater than we would have anticipated based on previous trends," lead author Aaron Reeves, of Oxford University's department of sociology, said.

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Too bad they didn't plan their lives better.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-15 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Too bad they didn't plan their lives better."

It's a construction workers fault that the economy tanked?

Are you on drugs?

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-15 07:08 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-15 07:08 PMFlag: (Choose)
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I like to remind people of what Republicans liked to say during the 2012 election.

I also like to remind them that Willard Romney profited handsomely from the same downturn that took these people's lives.....Since there's been a degree of nostalgia for Willard recently.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-15 07:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

sorry zed I didn't realize you were being sarcastic.

And Romney was never President so he doesn't get nostalgia.....I think.

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-15 07:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's a construction workers fault that the economy tanked?
#2 | POSTED BY TOR

No, but it is their fault that they decided they were too weak to face the realities of life.

I also like to remind them that Willard Romney profited handsomely from the same downturn that took these people's lives.
#3 | POSTED BY ZED

The down turn didn't take these people's lives, they took their own lives.

Unless they were suffering from a severe degenerative and debilitating or terminal physical condition their weakness is not due our sympathy.

#5 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN at 2014-06-15 07:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

"too weak to face the realities of life."

In reality any one of them could beat you senseless for your flippant description of their despair.

Even Rand would admire their commitment to work but of course leaches like you have no respect for that since you've never worked an honest day in your worthless lives.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-15 08:00 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Too bad they didn't plan their lives better.

#1 | Posted by Zed

Too bad we have tolerated a corrupt Obama government that gave immunity to the thieves who caused it, including George Bush and Bill Clinton.

Why, because they have money, connections, and they installed Obama in office. They have all of our politicians in their back pocket. The average victims and their families were sacrificed twice. None of the perps were sacrificed even once. BTW the same element of society that robbed us now want to take our guns probably more for their security, than ours.

I started turning on Obama the day he appointed the Wall St wolves to take care of Wall St, instead of appointing wolves to take care of Americans.

#7 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-15 08:29 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#6 | POSTED BY TOR

You know me?

I can ensure I have worked for and earned everything I have, no family handouts came my way.

And yes I have no sympathy for the weak who choose the easy way out. I grew up in dire poverty, poverty you probably can't even comprehend, so you can take your sanctimonious nonsense about their despair somewhere else, it falls on deaf ears here.

As to your ignorant quip about my work ethic. I'm a successful small business operator. You don't grow a successful small business especially in the very niche market I have without working an honest day in your life. I actually have to work six honest days a week to keep the place from getting behind. I know a little about commitment to work.

That being said if I lost it all tomorrow, it would be hard, but certainly not worth killing myself over. If you really want to, there is always a way to sustain yourself in this country. Sure it may not be what you like to do, want to do or know to do, but there is always something that can be done to sustain yourself and yours.

#8 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN at 2014-06-15 08:33 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"Even Rand would admire their commitment to work but of course leaches like you have no respect for that since you've never worked an honest day in your worthless lives."

NO offense but it's leeches.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-15 08:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

"no family handouts came my way."

No doubt you had to drive yourself to the welfare office.

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-15 08:58 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Perhaps we should consider that the rise in suicides comes to both those whose jobs were outsourced and those that they were outsourced to.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-15 09:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

In reality any one of them could beat you senseless for your flippant description of their despair.
#6 | POSTED BY TOR

Hmmm....A dead person is going to beat someone senseless? Seems like they could parlay that feat into a money making endeavor; ergo, relieving themselves of their despair.

#12 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN at 2014-06-15 09:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

For decades to come, it will be called the Bush-Cheney-GOP Recession, maybe after 50 years OR MORE, folks will forget that was the GOP who caused this recession, as they did 50 years after the last GOP GREAT RECESSION of the 1930's

#13 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-06-15 10:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

For decades to come, it will be called the Bush-Cheney-GOP Recession, maybe after 50 years OR MORE, folks will forget that was the GOP who caused this recession, as they did 50 years after the last GOP GREAT RECESSION of the 1930's

???

Given that the credible economists of today don't exclusively blame Bush/Cheney, (they blame a multitude of things that go back decades) what makes you think that future economic historians will? Do you really think that brain dead hyper-partisans squawking "Bush's fault" over and over and over and over will change history and blind honest historians smart enough to understand the complexities of a global economy? Are you so simple minded that you think such a complex thing as the global economy can be boiled down to two syllables: "Bush's fault"? How absurd. And how sad you are so bitten by the hyperpartisan bug you actually buy that story, too.

And even if true that the global economy's meltdown is the result of two people (again, how absurd is that?), the blame of unprecedented borrowing and printing of money that won't be paid back in even one hundred years will be borne by ----- and will be put squarely on his back. That debt is an albatross that will prevent the American economy from recovering for many, many decades. Something else current economists agree on, btw.

Blind partisanship sure screws up a person's mind as is proven by the testimonials of the weak minded "Bush's fault" people.

#14 | Posted by goatman at 2014-06-15 10:21 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

Unless they were suffering from a severe degenerative and debilitating or terminal physical condition their weakness is not due our sympathy.

#5 | POSTED BY TXLIBERTARIAN AT 2014-06-15 07:42 PM | FLAG:

Therein lies the problem with today's GOP.... no empathy for anyone but themselves.

#15 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-16 08:00 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Unless they were suffering from a severe degenerative and debilitating or terminal physical condition their weakness is not due our sympathy.

#5 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN at 2014-06

You do realize that this means you don't get any sympathy, either?

Oh, that's right. I'm sorry. You imagine you're a success.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-16 08:35 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Unless they were suffering from a severe degenerative and debilitating or terminal physical condition their weakness is not due our sympathy.

#5 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN at 2014-06

What was the name of that poem? "Roger Corey"? Libertarians don't read poetry, do they? Too busy making fun of dead people.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-16 08:37 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean favored, and imperially slim.

And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
'Good-morning,' and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich - yes, richer than a king -
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine, we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked, and waited for the light,
And went without the meat, and cursed the bread;
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet through his head.

- E. A. Robinson

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-16 08:40 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"I have just now come from a party where I was its life and soul; witticisms streamed from my lips, everyone laughed and admired me, but I went away -- yes, the dash should be as long as the radius of the earth's orbit -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- and wanted to shoot myself."

--Søren Kierkegaard

#19 | Posted by madscientist at 2014-06-16 08:46 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Therein lies the problem with today's GOP.... no empathy for anyone but themselves.

Therein lies the problem with todays DEM/Liberal....creating more people who need empathy thru voting..

#20 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-16 11:46 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The DOWNTURN of the GREAT RECESSION has Hurt more than just the 50 MILLION unemployed that do WANT to Work like myself. I'm one in many that I have to admit the 'Thought' came and went fast about sucide. I would NEVER do it but when times are so tough and for so L-O-N-G... you tend to think this way for a second. I'm so sick and tired of you USEFUL IDIOTS that have no idea what you are talking about. The GREAT RECESSION is STILL HERE and to STAY for years to come because of POLICIES, EO's - Executive Orders,REGULATIONS and ObamaCare KILLIG Jobs, Company's and PEOPLE's Money, lifesavings, and LIFE rather than having FREEDOM, RIGHTS, LIBERTY which then gives YOU OPPORTUNITIES!

#21 | Posted by Lindsey430 at 2014-06-16 12:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hang in there Lindsey....

#22 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-16 12:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Many on this POST forgot, don't remember or TOO YOUNG to Know, or following the MSM (which will NOT inform you correctly and they LIE) but under Bush (who I don't like either but he did do this and this DID HAPPEN), in 2006 the Democrats took over the House and Senate under Bush and this is when they gave houses to people who couldn't keep them. Bush kept saying on T.V. to CONGRESS (DEBOCRATS) Do something BEFORE we have a HOUSING BUST, but they ignored him and we had a Housing Bust which is the FIRST thing that HURT this COUNTRY in a VERY BAD WAY!!! NOT Bush's FAULT. Barney FRANK (the Gay Dem) and Chris ...something were OVER this Housing thing and they are BOTH DEMOCRATS!! I was a Democrat for 20 years but woke up in 1998 and so did my WHOLE Democrat family, now Republicans or Independents like me. We realized they want to put ALL of us on the Plantation. Has nothing to do with skin color.

Do yourself a Favor, Get informed. GOOGLE for ALL the Answers in the Past, Present and YOUR FUTURE: The PROOF is in the READ (and on the United Nations Website) GOOGLE: 'Tom DeWeese Agenda 21".

#23 | Posted by Lindsey430 at 2014-06-16 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

No one that caused this tragedy has been held accountable. They belong to a special class of people that are above the law, thanks to their ownership of so many politicians. The average Corporation operates with 84% of its capital at risk. Google uses 94% of its own capital. Banks typically only use 5% of their own capital. There has been no change. Most banks are extremely dangerous enterprises, backed by working taxpaying suckers.

#24 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-06-16 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

...and on the derivatives market:

The trading volume on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) reached an incomprehensible $1 quadrillion in notional value in 2012. That's a thousand trillion dollars. In comparison, the entire U.S. GDP is $17 trillion.

On that quadrillion dollars of sales CME imposes transfer fees, contract fees, brokerage fees, Globex fees, clearing fees, and contract surcharges, many of them on both the buyer's and seller's side. As a result, the company had a profit margin higher than any of the top 100 companies in the nation from 2008 to 2010, and it's gotten even higher since then.

But not a penny in sales tax for the taxpayers who provide publicly-funded infrastructure, technology, systems of law, and security to help them process billions of financial transactions.

Instead -- incredibly -- CME complained that its taxes were too high, and they demanded and received an $85 million tax break from the State of Illinois.

#25 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-06-16 08:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

" in 2006 the Democrats took over the House and Senate under Bush and this is when they gave houses to people who couldn't keep them. Bush kept saying on T.V. to CONGRESS (DEBOCRATS) Do something BEFORE we have a HOUSING BUST, but they ignored him and we had a Housing Bust which is the FIRST thing that HURT this COUNTRY in a VERY BAD WAY!!"

Completely disconnected from reality, it's what too much Fox News does to your mind. Sad.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-16 08:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Danni is exactly right. It was obvious to anyone in finance that our economy was tanking post 2000. In order to preserve a semblance of credibility to the Shrub Administration, Greenspan dropped interest rates and underwriting standards. The result was a temporary construction boom in housing and mortgage lending. Tragically teams of brokers at Countrywide and WAMU launched high pressure sales programs targeting poor and elderly neighborhoods. Rightie tighties still blame the victims, having forgotten the national bombardment of advertising from Countrywide which would give a loan to someone with no documentation and no job. Unprecedented in the history of the United States. The notion that Congress caused the housing crash and not the Federal Reserve is laughable. The Federal Reserve and Treasury is stacked with Wall Street appointments who understand a payoff comes later by serving Wall Street, not the American people. Clinton's, Shrub's and Obama's appointments to these agencies are all Neo-Classical Economists and virtually all Rethugs, including Greenspan, Paulson, Geithner and Bernanke. The Wussies like Rubin and Summers were just as bad.

#27 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-06-17 08:25 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"Hmmm....A dead person is going to beat someone senseless?"

Your attempt to win a debate by being obtuse has failed.

HARD.

#28 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-18 01:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

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