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Saturday, June 14, 2014

After relating the news of the deteriorating situation in Iraq, Fox News anchor Shepard Smith said, "Are we about to be drawn back into a conflict in Iraq? The same people who 12 years ago told us this will be quick, this will be easy, this will be inexpensive, they will see us as liberators, it's the right thing to do, are now telling us: It's the right thing to do. What's the endgame? Who's thought this through?"

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Well,

Fox is fair and balanced, unlike the other liberal news outlets.

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-14 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 5 | Newsworthy 1

Who's thought this through?"

Posted by rcade at 01:53 PM | 1 COMMENT | permalink | Comment on This Entry |

I'm pretty sure that thinking disqualifies your membership in the modern Right. Being a reactionary is its own reward. Since you never really think about what it is you want to do, its also much harder later on to remember how stupid you were being at the time.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-14 03:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The same people who 12 years ago told us this will be quick, this will be easy, this will be inexpensive, they will see us as liberators, it's the right thing to do, are now telling us: It's the right thing to do.

Posted by rcade at 01:53 PM | 2 COMMENTS | permalink | Comment on This Entry |

Well, of course it will be quick, easy, and inexpensive. We've had twelve years of practice since last time.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-14 03:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Who's thought this through?"

Posted by rcade at 01:53 PM | 1 COMMENT | permalink | Comment on This Entry |

I'm pretty sure that thinking disqualifies your membership in the modern Right. Being a reactionary is its own reward. Since you never really think about what it is you want to do, its also much harder later on to remember how stupid you were being at the time.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-14 03:16 PM | Reply

Zed, that's a disgusting thing to say about RCADE. RCADE, it's time to take ZED to the wood shed. The poor boy has finally lost it.

#4 | Posted by matsop at 2014-06-14 03:30 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The current state of affairs was the intended end game. Either a perpetual war for perpetual profit or an administration other than Bush and Co. taking the blame for Iraq's cluster ----.

The true Bush Doctrine worked precisely as planned. That's why Bush is so damn quiet these days. He's a happy camper.

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-14 07:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Perhaps Shepard Smith should address the question to Cheney and GWB and their false claims and especially to Bush's neocon security adviser who orchestrated the 9-11 Commission Report and sent our USA servicemen and women off to Iraq not to die for our freedom, but instead for our special friend's security.

www.commondreams.org

Of course our corporate media conglomerates INC who run a friendly biased racist staff from top to bottom but only for their pet propaganda, would never report honestly or objectively on how we Americans got into Iraq and why the media did nothing to raise questions.

BTW I posted this on CNN and they deleted it as is typical of their USA 2nd operation. We get more honest news beneficial to Americans from the Arabs.

#6 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-14 09:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hey, do you think we'll see Dick Cheney or George Bush tomorrow on the Sunday shows? Those snakes will sliver away or try to put the blame on Obama for not perpetually continuing their insanity. Clue: We simply can't afford their insanity any more. Two trillion and counting...and we have thousands of seriously damaged vets who will require extensive healthcare for decades which will cost more trillions.
Thanks Bush, thanks Bush voters, thanks especially to the two time Bush voters. Be proud.

#7 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-14 09:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

While the guy in the White House ignores these many damaged vets...!!!
Oh...sorry, he did read about them in the news???? and, he was so quick to find a solution... Oh, sorry, NO, we do not have a solution or even valid talking points from him...???? But, as many other disasters under his leadership, we know that he HAS known about the issues for a very long time and did, in fact, choose to IGNORE them...!!!
I was never in favor of going to Iraq in the first place, but a real sad excuse to use Bush to spin out of the derelict actions toward these suffering vets...!!!

#8 | Posted by drsoul at 2014-06-14 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I was never in favor of going to Iraq in the first place, but a real sad excuse to use Bush to spin out of the derelict actions toward these suffering vets...!!!"

And he never has. But pretend otherwise to support your paritsan attack atainst Obama which is based on nothing. Partisan Hack!

#9 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-14 10:08 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"I was never in favor of going to Iraq in the first place..."

Sure read that a lot in here these days.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-14 10:19 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

The saudis are funding ISIS like they funded 9-11. The saudis have lots of oil for sale.
The price of oil is rising again because of Iraq.
Any questions?

#11 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-06-15 12:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

Who is this "George W Bush" of whom you speak? Everybody knows Bubba Clinton invaded Iraq at the start of his 4th term.

The Right

#12 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-06-15 12:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

.... Follow the MONEY!

**** The US GOVT is funding ISIS like they funded 9-11.The US GOVT is STEALING Lots of OIL from Sovereign Countries (as usual) and to Sweeten the Pot they're also Driving Up the Price for OIL with all their On Going Wars and even revisiting Old Wars like in Iraq!

#13 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-06-15 02:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

Thanks Bush, thanks Bush voters, thanks especially to the two time Bush voters. Be proud.

#7 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2014-06-14 09:27 PM | FLAG: TSK TSK

Oh Danni you can hardly blame them. Bush done went an got hissef uh Texus ak-cent and then gave them that there $200 tax rebate ta go put in their gas tank with some left over ta buy them one of them there life size card board cut outs of Bush so they could sit an have a beer with it. Evruh one was happy.

A course when Bush say-ed they could go them a bunch more of the terriers in Eye-rack they was happ-eh ta dew it cause that's where that there Saddam fellah wuz hidin' out them there Eye-ya-to-lah and ben laden fellers right? They wuz gonna steal ar freedumz and besides they might get uh nuther one of them there tax rebates onna counta it don't cost nuthin ta kill them there evil doers muzlim types.

Besides... what they guvame-yernt don't wanchu ta know iz if-n itwernt fer Obama they coulda got that ol' Mr. Ben Ladun a lot sooner.

#14 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-06-15 08:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

So, Danni, in case I missed something, please tell me in all of the years that your guy has been in office, the positive things that he has accomplished to increase the care of our veterans from these wars... he knew before he took office of the problems...fill me in on the positive steps that he has taken to put the suffering veterans, over his term of years, into a better priority of care and attention...
and, as usual, you do not read nor comprehend very well...as to the 'partisan hack', that is the only generic excuse that you can use to retort...have always been an independent status...
did not like most about Bush and even less about your guy, but that does not make one a 'partisan hack'...try to be more objective..

#15 | Posted by drsoul at 2014-06-15 09:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

#15 | Posted by drsoul at

I'm sad to say that I don't think there's really any sort of national will in regards to taking care of our vets. Most of us have as much interest in their wounds as we have in how they got wounded, none at all.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-15 10:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

"So, Danni, in case I missed something, please tell me in all of the years that your guy has been in office, the positive things that he has accomplished to increase the care of our veterans from these wars..."

To do that we would have to list the veterans administration bill filibustered by the Republicans in the Senate.

HEre's one:
"U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans' health bill on budget worry"

www.reuters.com

I'm sure some of these same budget hawks are now criticizing Obama for not keeping troops in Iraq longer or for not sending them back in now, seems budgets don't matter when it comes to IRaq but they do when it comes to taking care of those who fought in Iraq.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-15 10:44 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

"have always been an independent status..."

Republicans ashamed to admit they voted for Bush.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-15 10:45 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 4

Danni, I will overlook your pure ignorance in #18 post; but it is interesting that you cannot answer my question about your guy aiding our vets....you still want to spin it onto someone else... where, in all of his term, has he stood up to improve what he knew when he came into office??? just a simple question...direct answer???

"Most of us have as much interest in their wounds as we have in how they got wounded, none at all."....sad to hear, ZED...but, maybe not from you..for 'the rest of us who really care', yes, not happy about how they got their wounds at all...a farce of a decision for all the wrong reasons that caused the wounds; but definitely care about taking care of them...we owe those who sacrificed....

#19 | Posted by drsoul at 2014-06-15 12:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Iraqi oil is running out. No one cares what happens to anyone there anymore.

#20 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-15 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

So, Danni, in case I missed something, please tell me in all of the years that your guy has been in office, the positive things that he has accomplished to increase the care of our veterans from these wars...
#15 | POSTED BY DRSOUL

He stopped Republicans from cutting the VA Budget several times.

#21 | Posted by Sycophant at 2014-06-15 01:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Most of us have as much interest in their wounds as we have in how they got wounded, none at all."....sad to hear, ZED...but, maybe not from you..for 'the rest of us who really care', yes, not happy about how they got their wounds at all...a farce of a decision for all the wrong reasons that caused the wounds; but definitely care about taking care of them...we owe those who sacrificed....

#19 | POSTED BY DRSOUL

Which is why Republicans didn't substantially increase spending for the care of Vets despite knowing Iraq was creating significant need. Worse, they essentially ignored mental health services during the Bush years.

And until recently, any attempt to increase spending on the VA was attacked by the House GOP.

You keep on pretending to support the Vets there.

#22 | Posted by Sycophant at 2014-06-15 01:12 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

I am sad to see Shep Smith will no longer be working at Fox News.

#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2014-06-15 01:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

"So, Danni, in case I missed something, please tell me in all of the years that your guy has been in office, the positive things that he has accomplished to increase the care of our veterans from these wars...
#15 | POSTED BY DRSOUL "

Typical Republican tactic, use the Senate to filibuster any real attempts to better fund the VA and then blame the inaction on the President. Now, tell me what have the Republicans done to improve services at the VA?

#24 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-15 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Danni proves that Obama is a worthless do nothing gas bag.

#25 | Posted by justanoversight at 2014-06-15 01:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Neither party has shown any real serious interest in the situation of our vets...that is why I would find it hard to be a supporter of either party in this time....Washington is a farce on both sides... it is not about one or the other...THEY BOTH STINK..!!!
Obviously, Danni, you will never understand an 'independent' view in this life; you do provide laughs with your sidestepping tactics...

Sycophant....I am a vet and a supporter of vets in many personal and active ways...don't spin something you know little about...

This country has perpetrated wrong to all citizens alike with the ignorant discord of providing a solid mental health program and supporting the same with states on all levels... the headlines alone in this country today should speak loud to the deaf ears of WH down to Congress; but, again, there is little respect for the lack of mental health support...and, no one in leadership who cares about anything except their popularity ratings...

#26 | Posted by drsoul at 2014-06-15 01:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Obviously, Danni, you will never understand an 'independent' view in this life; you do provide laughs with your sidestepping tactics..."

The "both parties are the same" excuse for Republican obstructionism. Sorry, that talking point is simply worn out, meaningless, not even close to true. If the Dems weren't trying to do things then how is it that Republicans have set new records for the number of filibusters, what are they filibustering?

#27 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-15 01:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#27....you 'kool-aiders' of either party just don't get it, do you..LOL

#28 | Posted by drsoul at 2014-06-15 04:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I was never in favor of going to Iraq in the first place..."
Sure read that a lot in here these days.

#10 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2014-06-14 10:19 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

It as almost as bad as the "I didn't vote for Bush" epidemic of 2009.

#29 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-16 09:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

Washington is a farce on both sides... it is not about one or the other...THEY BOTH STINK..!!!

They are both bad (TM) deflection.

#30 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-16 09:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The "both parties are the same" excuse for Republican obstructionism"

I think republican obstructionism stands out on it's own. no need to make an excuse for that.

"republican obstructionisn" is a lame excuse to claim the parties are really really really different.

"both the same" is another issue.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-16 09:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

Don't you guys know that the Va staff was lying about wait times b/c they were broke? That's why they cooked the books to get bonuses.

#32 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-16 11:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Iraqi oil is running out. No one cares what happens to anyone there anymore.

#20 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-15 01:07 PMFlag: (Choose)
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Where'd you come up with that?

The Iraqi Oil Ministry is looking to boost their production to 12 million bpd by 2017.

They've just opened up 2 huge oil fields and 1 gas field. these contracts were recent. one might be inclined to think-with that type of production out there the price of oil would decline a little.

#33 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2014-06-16 11:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

See. FoxNews inadvertently hires a homosexual and he goes ahead and stabs them in the back by being honest and intelligent.

#34 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-06-16 12:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

THEY BOTH STINK..!!!
#26 | Posted by drsoul

They do, but that doesn't mean the stench off one isn't worse then the stench off the other.

As Molly Ivins was fond of saying: Naturally, when it comes to voting, we in Texas are accustomed to discerning that fine hair's-breadth worth of difference that makes one hopeless dipstick slightly less awful than the other.

You've got to look for that difference or things will never improve.

#35 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2014-06-16 12:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

""republican obstructionisn" is a lame excuse to claim the parties are really really really different."

Republican obstructionism prevents you from ever finding out if they are really different or not. That's sort of their reason for obstructing. The Republicans don't want you to know.

#36 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-16 01:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

General Sinsiki (Spelling) who was Chief of Staff of the Army at the time, told congress that any invasion of Iraq would require at least 450 thousand troops. Not to win the war, that could be done with 50 - 75 Thousand, but to win the peace, as we would have to stabilize the country and somehow get the Sunni's and Shiites to work together. He was asked to retire shortly after that by Rumsfield. He was right, but he was a war fighter and not an administrator, hence the mess ups at the VA. Someone, anyone should have listened to him about the war. When Jessica Lynch was captured, I knew then and there they had messed up big time, they did not have enough troops in country to protect the supply lines and insure that convoys went through as needed. He was right and the idiots Cheney and Rumsfield were wrong all the way around.

#37 | Posted by Anon451 at 2014-06-16 01:20 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Hey Shep,
In 2008 candidate Mass Incompetence guaranteed that this would not happen.
In 2012 president Dither told us that Al Qaeda was on the run.
ISIS wasn't even on the radar.
Where was Hillary during the buildup of ISIS?

#38 | Posted by Huguenot at 2014-06-16 01:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

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