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Emboldened Sunni militants, backed by local tribal leaders, pushed toward Baghdad on Friday as Iran sent troops to fight alongside government forces. In Washington, increasingly nervous U.S. officials mulled their limited options to help slow the militants' advance. In recent days, Iran has sent about 500 Revolutionary Guard troops to fight alongside Iraqi government security forces in Diyala province, a senior security official in Baghdad told CNN.

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Meanwhile, Sunni tribal leaders have lined up behind radical Islamists from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, making their push toward Baghdad easier, a Saudi intelligence official told CNN's Nic Robertson

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...and Russia only put troops in East Berlin as peacekeepers.

...and LBJ only sent "advisors" to Vietnam.

...and Putin is only in Crimea to protect Russian-speaking citizens.

#1 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-06-13 12:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

We are looking at a huge civil war with many factions fighting for many years ahead.

This might not be a bad thing, letting them fight among themselves for all eternity, religion of peace and all.

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-13 01:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

This might not be a bad thing

OK. This seals it.

You are definitely VERY near sighted.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-13 02:14 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Yes, the myopia is strong in that one.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-13 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Iraqi Shiite Cleric Issues Call to Arms Against Sunni Militants

BAGHDAD -- Iraq's top Shiite cleric exhorted all able-bodied Iraqis to take up arms Friday to combat the marauding Sunni extremist militants who have seized broad stretches of the country this week and are threatening the wobbly Shiite-led central government in Baghdad. President Obama said it was up to the Iraqis themselves to contain the crisis.

"The mobilization of the Shia militias, and Qassem Suleimani's [Iranian Commander] presence, is a very good indication of how seriously they're taking this," Hayder al-Khoei, an associate fellow at the London-based Chatham House research group, said in an interview with Iranwire from Baghdad.

Even with their shared interests in a stable Iraq, there was no overt sign of cooperation or communication between Washington and Tehran on the crisis. Marie Harf, a State Department spokeswoman, told reporters on Friday that "we are not talking to the Iranians about Iraq."

www.nytimes.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-13 03:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Iran has sent about 500 Revolutionary Guard troops to fight alongside Iraqi government security forces..."

500? Whoop dee doo.

An estimated 800 insurgents took Mosul away from 30,000 fleeing Iraqi soldiers.

What are the 500 Iranians supposed to do? Shoot them in the back to stop them from running away?

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-13 07:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

"500? Whoop dee doo."

My thoughts exactly.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-06-14 06:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Please - can someone please rationalize or correct the following assumption?

The Arabs that attacked us on 9-11-01 supposedly were Al-Queda Saudi Sunnis. The Israelis are generally in bed with Saudis.

The Shiites and Iranian Persians helped us in Afghanistan and Iraq, while Saddam's Sunnis attacked us relentlessly with IEDs in Iraq.

So why are we hung up on hating Iran and Shiites? Why is the USA media pushing this? Is our MSM a formal branch of the office of misinformation put forth by our "favorite ally" that takes our money but never aids or sacrifices for us?

Why are supposed "allied" hands deep in our government and our pockets and always on the taking side, never the giving side.

#8 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-14 07:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

The only way such fundamental ideological differences are resolved is through political power sharing agreements at the highest levels, otherwise such "elites" only resolve to keep having the sheep kill each other.

The media and political leaders specialize in playing the sheep against each other over trivial differences in Iraq, just as they do in the USA. They purposely keep the little people divided and they then reap the rewards. If we could eliminate political elites and institutional power mongers we could eliminate war. Most average people are content to live and let live until their "leaders" purposely incite them to hate each other.

The elites (and I use that term frivolously) thrive on greed and power and they get it by convincing others go to war. Too bad for world's society that such "elites" are not held accountable for their evil.

#9 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-14 07:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Frankly, at this point, Iranian forces in Iraq are probably one the 'least bad' options.

And I say that with full knowledge of the certainty that in time, they'll also export terror.

Anyone who cannot understand that does not have a damn clue how deal with horrible situations where all options are bad. (I'll admit, however, that there can be debate on which 'crap sandwich' has the least amount of crap in it.....).

#10 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-06-14 08:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

-Al-Queda Saudi Sunnis

The AQ were Saudis fighting against their rulers in Saudi Arabia.

Iran di-in't like the missiles Reagan traded them, lol.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-14 09:31 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

""500? Whoop dee doo."
My thoughts exactly."

And you believe those numbers why?

My bet 10,000. This is the opportunity they have been waiting for since the 1980's war with Iraq, don't fool yourself, they still remember that war.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-14 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

So why are we hung up on hating Iran and Shiites?

Probably because of a perceived lack of "payback" for the embassy hostage thing.

The elites (and I use that term frivolously)

Not to mention continuously.

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-14 09:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Most of what has happened in the ME in the last few decades has been all about the proxy wars between Iran and the Saudis, including ISIS and AQ.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-14 09:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"So why are we hung up on hating Iran and Shiites?"

Because the idea of Jihad originated, well more properly popularized by, the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeiny. All of this is the result of the end of the British Empire and then the attempts of other nations, such as the U.S., to pick up where they left off. We have no business being in Iraq, we had no business being in IRan when the Shah ruled. We have no business in the ME. BRing our troops home, lets hold a parade to the end of STUPIDITY on Broadway in NY and let every politician, Dem or GOP, justify their votes and if they can't may they face rejection. We need a government that did not want to go to war in Iraq, there aren't too many politicians that qualify but let's start looking for them but let that rule be enforced, if you voted for that war you can't be President!
Sorry Hillary.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-14 10:05 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Keep our hands out of Iraq in every shape and form. The whole mideast is about to go up into smoke. In fact, our own country is going up in smoke. You've got kids and gang members pouring over our borders with the blessing of this administration. What the _____is going on with this guy. I believe he's now purposely trying to destroy this country. Who knows what he believes any longer. Craziness reigns domestically and globally. GDP was lowered even further into negative territory for the first quarter and the second quarter doesn't look very good either. You can just feel something big is ready to give.

#16 | Posted by matsop at 2014-06-14 10:15 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

" You've got kids and gang members pouring over our borders with the blessing of this administration."

The world deals with real problems while Matsop plays partisan politics. Sort of sad, grow the hell up idiot.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-14 10:21 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

" You've got kids and gang members pouring over our borders with the blessing of this administration."

The world deals with real problems while Matsop plays partisan politics. Sort of sad, grow the hell up idiot.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-14 10:21 PM | Reply

Look, you snivelling maroon. This is another huge problem in the making for this country. It doesn't matter what happens globally if the finances of this country are further impacted by thousands crossing our borders. This has nothing to do with partisan politics but a lot to do with how we support these folks which will add even more pressure on our budget deficits. You think these folks are going to add to our GDP like your fellow maroon, Joe Biden thinks. That guy is just as stupid as you are. Who will care what happens globally if our own country goes up in flames----which odds are becoming better all the time.

#18 | Posted by matsop at 2014-06-14 10:29 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

" You've got kids and gang members pouring over our borders with the blessing of this administration."

Mattsy, you do know Obama has deported more illegals than Reagan and the Bushies combined?

You do know that your rightwing masters, corporate America, loves them some illegals, don't you?

Or doesn't reality make it to your neighborhood?

Looks like maybe this time, America may side with the opponents of jihad, instead of sending its kids to die for them.

And so much for that there "Mission Accomplished" Awakening you righties were celebrating a few short years ago.

#19 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-06-14 11:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

MATSOP

" You've got kids and gang members pouring over our borders with the blessing of this administration."

You're assuming (always a mistake) that the President of the United States, even with vast resources at his disposal, can only handle one problem at a time. You're zeroed in on the headline du jour, assuming that the President is doing the same thing. The fact is, the President is capable of working on many problems simultaneously. He doesn't have the luxury of ignoring one (as you seem to imply) in order to handle another.

In politics (as in business) it's never a good idea to rush into problem solving with six guns a'blazin'. That may be your style but for others who have to shoulder the consequences of their decisions, big problems require big solutions and big solutions require a studied approach.

There's also the idea that the President may be doing many things that you know nothing about. And that's the kind of stuff that gets you in trouble when you start blindly criticizing an action or a perceived inaction when you start to view a solution through the prism of an eyedropper.

#20 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-06-15 04:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

New photos released by ISIS and the Levant show the true brutality of thier campaign.

300+ men, many wearing the same #11 Gomez? and #10 soccer shirts, laid down into roadside ditch and executed.

Liveleak showing M1 MBTs flying flag ISIS flags....

#21 | Posted by aescal at 2014-06-15 05:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

Shocking as that may be to us, Aescal, brutality is just another day at the office for those folks. You can thank Obama that there aren't any American soldiers in that ditch.

#22 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-06-15 06:43 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

This has nothing to do with partisan politics but a lot to do with how we support these folks which will add even more pressure on our budget deficits. You think these folks are going to add to our GDP like your fellow maroon, Joe Biden thinks.

If they get jobs and spend money they add to the GDP. Doesn't matter if they're illegal, Pilgrim, or Native American.

Admittedly, the GDP would go up even more if businesses didn't hire illegals and paid the prevailing legal wage. But businesses get rich by being cheap. And politicians are beholden to the rich. That's why neither party has really done anything about immigration.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-15 12:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

So why are we hung up on hating Iran and Shiites?

Because saudialquedia and Israel want us to. Never mind Israel selling American military tech to China or saudialquedia killing thousands of American on 9-11 and in Iraq and Afghanistan.

#24 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-06-15 12:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Where is Israel and why aren't they sending their boys and girls forces to ward off ISIS. They and their neocon operatives in the USA played a big part in orchestrating the Iraq War against Saddam and now they sit on their axx and do nothing.

#25 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-15 08:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Because they are smart. But I am sure you will see plenty when isis sets its sights on Israel. Its just a matter of time.

#26 | Posted by Daniel at 2014-06-15 11:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

"But I am sure you will see plenty when isis sets its sights on Israel."

ISIS will run out of armour and flying things in short order.

#27 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-15 11:22 PM | Reply | Flag:


This might not be a bad thing, letting them fight among themselves for all eternity, religion of peace and all.

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-13 01:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Pretty much sums up why even though they hate each other, they hate us even more. Waged a war based on a lie in Iraq that killed tens and possibly hundreds of thousands. Supplied terrorists with arms in Syria & Lybia, which are now using those weapons to wage a holy war across the region. Then sit back and say maybe its a good thing we've turned the region into hell.

#28 | Posted by daniel_3 at 2014-06-16 12:23 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Robson,

The CIA and Pentagon like war, insofar as it always increases their budgets; the State Department and elected officials just do what Israel tells them to do; no one in a position of power in this country is able to learn from our past mistakes, much less see beyond the most immediate effect of our latest actions. Sadly, our country is run by incompetent criminals who could never have won WWII.

#29 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-06-16 05:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

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