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Thursday, June 12, 2014

Iraqi forces sought to check the rapid advance of Islamist militants who had seized major cities, as Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki responded to the greatest threat to his government since taking power. The surge in violence across northern and central Iraq, three years after U.S. troops withdrew, has raised the prospect of a return to sectarian civil war in OPEC's second-biggest oil producer.

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Shiite vs Sunnis,(conservative killing other conservatives) at the end of the day, there will be a lot less conservatives on the face of the earth.
This is not our battle, it's just a civil war and HUSSEIN Obama should not say or do anything to help either side.
Like the World Cup, the best team will win

#1 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-06-12 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Good evening. Tonight, I'd like to talk to you about the end of our combat mission in Iraq, the ongoing security challenges we face and the need to rebuild our nation here at home.

So tonight I am announcing that the American combat mission in Iraq has ended. Operation Iraqi Freedom is over, and the Iraqi people now have lead responsibility for the security of their country.

Even as Iraq continues to suffer terrorist attacks, security incidents have been near the lowest on record since the war began. And Iraqi forces have taken the fight to al Qaeda, removing much of its leadership in Iraqi-led operations.

This new approach reflects our long-term partnership with Iraq, one based upon mutual interests and mutual respect.

As we speak, al Qaeda continues to plot against us, and its leadership remains anchored in the border region of Afghanistan and Pakistan. We will disrupt, dismantle, and defeat al Qaeda, while preventing Afghanistan from again serving as a base for terrorists. And because of our drawdown in Iraq, we are now able to apply the resources necessary to go on offense. In fact, over the last 19 months, nearly a dozen al Qaeda leaders -- and hundreds of al Qaeda's extremist allies -- have been killed or captured around the world.

www.cnn.com

Speaks for it's self!

#2 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-06-12 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Drone strikes in Pakistan resume.

www.latimes.com

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-12 02:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

No apostrophe in the word "itself". Should have paid attention in class. Takes a special kind of ------- to blame Obama for al-Qaeda in Iraq.

#4 | Posted by midiman at 2014-06-12 02:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 4

I thought Obama told us on more than one occasion that he decimated al Qaeda? How can this be?

We should send that video of Obama working out over to these nasty Iraqis so they know we mean business!!

#5 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-12 03:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is not our battle, it's just a civil war and HUSSEIN Obama should not say or do anything to help either side. - Sammy

Well Obama has opened his mouth...
www.reuters.com

#6 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-12 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Vice President Joe Biden said Iraq "could be one of the great achievements of this administration. You're going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You're going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government."

The vice president said he'd been to Iraq 17 times and visits the country every three months or so. "I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society" he said. "It's impressed me. I've been impressed how they have been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences."

#7 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-12 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Did he draw a red line Andrea?

#8 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-12 03:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Takes a special kind of ------- to blame Obama for al-Qaeda in Iraq.

#4 | POSTED BY MIDIMAN

Thats all you've got?

You don' seem to believe giving arms to ISIS in Syria, then leaving Iraq completely has nothing to do with what is happening today?

Why do you not think there are consequences of actions in the world?

Why do you believe things aren't interrelated?

There will be more consequences.......

#9 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-12 03:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Did he draw a red line Andrea?

#8 | POSTED BY DALTON

Does it matter if he did?

He just mouthes action, and expects the world to take heed...

#10 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-12 03:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

CORKY will be buy in a couple minutes to tell us how this is good for the United States and that this is a triumph of Obama's foreign policy!

#11 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-06-12 03:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

#9 Don't put words in my mouth. Implicit in your argument is that we should remain in Iraq. Here's the opportunity for you to clarify that point.

#12 | Posted by midiman at 2014-06-12 03:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

#9 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Don't put words in my mouth. ("You don' seem to believe giving arms to ISIS in Syria, ") Implicit in your argument is that we should remain in Iraq. Here's the opportunity for you to clarify that point.

#13 | Posted by midiman at 2014-06-12 03:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Looting is transition to freedom"

"The images you are seeing on television you are seeing over, and over, and it's the same picture of some person walking out of some building with a vase," scoffed Rumsfeld, "and you think, ‘My goodness, were there that many vases? Is it possible that there were that many vases in the whole country?"

-Donald Rumsfeld

Speaks for it's self!

#14 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-06-12 03:36 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Donald Rumsfeld, 3/7/03:
"It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."

Vice President Dick Cheney, 3/16/03:
"I think it will go relatively quickly, . . . (in) weeks rather than months"

Speaks for it's self!

#15 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-06-12 03:37 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"We Will, In Fact, Be Greeted As Liberators" - Cheney From Meet the Press, March 16 2003

Speaks for it's self!

#16 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-06-12 03:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Who is doing the attacking in Iraq? Certainly not AQ, because they're decimated, according to the all knowing Barack Obama. He said it more than once, and he was quite sure of himself.

Man, ever since he hit those weights at that hotel he is looking buffer than Zimmerman.

#17 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-12 03:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Chairborne that is absolutely lame - even for you. It's laugh out loud funny for me ... I've been away from this site for years and come back to find the same partisan wackadoo as when I left. Are you suggesting that we should remain there, or is your comment just more of the partisan, adolescent snark for which you are well known? Here's the question in simple, --------- form: should be remain in Iraq?

#18 | Posted by midiman at 2014-06-12 03:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Look!!! Midiman..you need to bring your ruler and slap redneck on the hands for his atrocious use of grammar by saying "it's self" repeatedly.

LOL

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-12 03:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Umm, that's actually what paneo used. It wasn't by accident I left it that way.

LOL.

#20 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-06-12 03:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not sure I'll stick around, though ... a pity none of this matters a damn in the real world. Hillary will do much better.

#21 | Posted by midiman at 2014-06-12 03:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Hillary will do much better."

At what? Getting the U.S. involved in more quagmires?

#22 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-06-12 04:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

should be remain in Iraq?

good question. another one might be "should we send more troops to Iraq?"

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-12 04:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Midiman,
Strange, I don't recall you at all. I always remember the smart or funny ones.
Why are you wondering what I'm suggesting? Simply read the post I penned and see what I questioned. Obama has told us on more than one occasion he decimated AQ. Now, here they are running roughshod over the Iraq that Biden claimed was going to be in good hands.
How does a decimated AQ get 80 miles outside of Baghdad?

The fact I don't remember you does not inspire confidence that you'll be able to answer. To be fair, the fact you were unsure of what my 17 was stating was my first clue you aren't up to the task.

#24 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-12 04:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Takes a special kind of ------- to blame Obama for al-Qaeda in Iraq.

#4 | POSTED BY MIDIMAN

Ain't that the truth.

Another kind that "thinks" ISIS is AQ is also special variety.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-12 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good thing we didnt provide ATGMs ,heavys weapons, night vision goggles, MANPADs etc to all those Saudi and Iraqi jihadists that ventured into Syria to fight Assad...

Oh wait....

#26 | Posted by aescal at 2014-06-12 04:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

"should we send more troops to Iraq?"

Not much choice unless you want to abandon the billion dollar palace embassy in Baghdad.

#27 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-12 04:22 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Dear Shrub,

Now do you get why your daddy backed off???? Oh, I almost forgot, you don't care.

#28 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-06-12 04:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

"three years after U.S. troops withdrew, has raised the prospect of a return to sectarian civil war in OPEC's second-biggest oil producer."

surprised it took this long.

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-12 04:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

There won't be any US boots on the ground. There be Air Force target practice.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-12 04:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Isn't ISIS the same folks ol' Bomb Iran McCain got a selfie with?

#31 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-06-12 04:36 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

lol, wasn't the american army once 80 miles from baghdad? boy, what a difference a decade makes.

if this doesn't show the average interventionist idiot the folly of their foreign policy beliefs, i dunno what will...

#32 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-12 04:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Mission Accomplished.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-12 04:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Iraq is lost and the US isn't going to do anything to ISIS. Maybe blow up a few of our confiscated helicopters to keep them from the Chinese and Russians, but that's about it. Eventually, ISIS will be our proxy fighters against the Syrian government.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

#34 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2014-06-12 05:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

"When life gives you lemons, make lemonade"

what people don't understand when they quote that stupid cliche is that lemonade also includes a fair amount of water and sugar, a knife to cut the lemons, and a long spoon and a decent sized pitcher to make it with...

#35 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-12 05:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

There won't be any US boots on the ground. There be Air Force target practice.

#30 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2014-06-12 04:28 PM | FLAG:

It's not impossible, but it's unlikely. US & Ethiopian air power smashed AQ forces when they tried to assault from Somalia. They were caught in the open, committed to a pitched battle, and were smashed.

It's not nearly the same here, the Iraqi air force was decimated and they don't have competent combat controllers. ISIS forces have moved on Baghdad from 3 lines of advance, only 1 of which was halted. It was halted by the Kurds, who have reclaimed Kirkuk (however it's spelled), something they used to own before being ethnically cleansed from it by Saddam. They beat ISIS using obsolete heavy armor, artillery, and reliable infantry.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-06-12 07:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's OK. The Iranians will help out.

Other than the US, the Iranians were the only ones willing to commit to assisting the Bosnian Muslims. And Iran was willing to "commit." not just make statements on CNN and bomb the occasional Serb position.

It would be a good way for them to develop some goodwill. Attitudes towards the Islamic Republic may not be particularly favorable, but moreso than AQ. It's not well known, but Iran almost went to war with the Taliban in 1998 after the Taliban executed some Iranian diplomats in Mazar-i-Sharif.

if you're a muslim, the only thing worse than a non-muslim is a muslim from a different sect.

In any case, I wouldn't mind watching the Iranians behead thousands of AQ.

#37 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-06-12 10:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ah, Obama's foreign policy at its finest.

This is what you get when you elect a communist organizer who sympathizes with muslim terrorist.

#38 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-06-13 12:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

"This is what you get when you elect a communist organizer who sympathizes with muslim terrorist."

What was your idea? Would it have worked?

What is your idea now?

#39 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-13 01:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

Posted by docnjo

Excellent non-PC post. They are an uncontrolled cancer on humanity. IMHO.

#41 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2014-06-13 01:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ah, Obama's foreign policy at its finest.
This is what you get when you elect a communist organizer who sympathizes with muslim terrorist.

#38 | POSTED BY MCMLCXX AT 2014-06-13 12:57 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

What was your idea? Would it have worked?
What is your idea now?

#39 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2014-06-13 01:10 AM | FLAG:

Forget it. The wing dings are full of criticism and empty of ideas.

Their plan is:
1. Criticize Obama.
2. Soil themselves.
3. ?????
4. Victory.

No matter what is done it will be too much, not enough and wrong.

#42 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-13 08:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

They are an uncontrolled cancer on humanity. IMHO.
#41 | Posted by Greatamerican

You must be great fun at parties.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-13 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

And snoofy, you see some promise in their way of life and their philosophy of progressiveness?

#44 | Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-06-13 10:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let them wipe each other out. No amount of weapons of money that Obama or Bush claims would fix it will work. Should have never went in to begin with.

#45 | Posted by zack991 at 2014-06-14 03:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

I am politically incorrect, that term interested me, so I looked it up. It seems that back in the 30s at Columbia U. There was this group of Germans called the Frankfort School. They were Marxist who were trying to explain why the theory of their prophet had not come true. There was no mass uprising of the proletariat in the western industrial countries. Confronted with the failure of economic Marxism they turned to cultural Marxism. Basically stating that all ills of mankind were the result of the exploitation of western civilization. Any racism, injustice or exploitation in any other culture was ignored. It basically gives a start point for Critical Theory, which is basically saying that everything we do is wrong. This is a thumbnail, so look up the terms and see where they came from, see where Ethnic Studies and Woman"s Studies came from. We have been misled and swindeled by the academics.

#46 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-06-14 07:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

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