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Wednesday, June 11, 2014

The gunman who killed a Reynolds High School student and wounded a teacher Tuesday morning was identified as freshman Jared Michael Padgett, 15. Padgett exchanged gunfire with officers, then apparently shot himself, authorities said. He used an AR-15 type of rifle, owned by his family, that he obtained after removing it from its secured storage place, said Troutdale Chief Scott Anderson. Padgett was carrying nine loaded magazines with the capability of holding several hundred rounds, authorities said. He also had a handgun that he did not fire and a knife.

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Police do not know of any link between Padgett and the student he killed, freshman Emilio Hoffman, 14.

Another story has photos of Padgett. A friend wrote on his Facebook wall after the shooting, "I had so many classes with you since 7th grade. We were always talking about guns."

A high school classmate, Agustus Guzman, wrote on Twitter, "He was a freshmen in the JROTC program when i was in there ... He always had this kinda odd thing about him always taking everything so serious and being so precise with everything he did. He would always unzip is his binder all slow and take pieces of paper out so precise and just always be so obsessed with hunting and guns."

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I don't get why these clowns always pack a huge pile of ammo and then off themselves before they use much of it.

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-11 10:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

OMG nine magazines? NINE MAGAZINES!?!?!?!,

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-11 10:19 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

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Because on paper packing a ton of ammo seems like a smart move for a grandiose "plan".
In real life, where they've never taken a life, seen blood & guts, heard the screams, taken fire, been shot, etc it appears pretty easy to understand.

An old saying: no plan survives initial contact

#3 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-11 10:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

#3 | Posted by 101Chairborne

I suspect you are right. Wonder what the knife was supposed to be for in the "plan".

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-11 10:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

He must have seen Rambo noticed how handy his came in. Seriously. I'll bet it was his "last resort" weapon for taking down one last perceived enemy. Then all of a sudden in real life he was faced with the reality of what he had done/was doing and shut down, literally.

#5 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-11 10:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

OMG nine magazines? NINE MAGAZINES!

Do you think it's funny that the amount of ammunition he brought suggests he intended a Newtown-style massacre, and wasn't just settling a specific grudge? I think it's a serious cause for concern that we're seeing so many of these aspiring mass murderers stacked on top of each other lately.

#6 | Posted by rcade at 2014-06-11 10:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Or were they clips?

#7 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-06-11 10:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

The media coverage has to be some kind of a draw.
These people aren't sane but still must realize they won't get to see their 15 minutes, right?

#8 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-11 10:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

He used an AR-15 type of rifle, owned by his family, that he obtained after removing it from its SECURED storage place. His gun-nut parents-family should be charged as accessories to murder.IMHO

This incident, once again is proof that nothing good ever comes from guns ...NEVER

#9 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-06-11 10:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Aspiring mass murderers...

With all of the examples we have to choose from, would you say that mass murdering is the norm, or is the shooter usually taking himself out on his terms without maximizing body count that he clearly "planned" on?

The hyperbole helps get your ilk ginned up, but doesn't do much for rational thinkers.

#10 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-11 11:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

This incident, once again is proof that nothing good ever comes from guns ...NEVER

#9 | POSTED BY SAMMYAZ_RI

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-06-11 11:06 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

This incident, once again is proof that nothing good ever comes from criminal use of guns ...NEVER

FTFY

I'm sure this family disagrees with your uninformed opinion.

Husband and wife shoot gunmen who try to enter their St. Louis home, killing 1, police say

#12 | Posted by et_al at 2014-06-11 11:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

The hyperbole helps get your ilk ginned up, but doesn't do much for rational thinkers.

Yep. www.drudge.com

#13 | Posted by et_al at 2014-06-11 11:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I'm sure this family disagrees with your uninformed opinion."

Lucky kid, I'd have to say.

#14 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-11 11:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

Et Al,

I figured you would have been all over the IRS/FBI thread on the back page. Mustang and 726 were analyzing legal texts and ----. You'd love it.

#15 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-06-11 11:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

I saw it, Jeff. No interest.

#16 | Posted by et_al at 2014-06-11 11:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh.

That surprises me a bit. It seems like something right up your alley.

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-06-11 11:37 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

There is nothing worse than getting the weeds with the CFR's and the Tax Code. I try to stay away from both.

#18 | Posted by et_al at 2014-06-11 11:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do you think it's funny that the amount of ammunition he brought suggests he intended a Newtown-style massacre, and wasn't just settling a specific grudge? I think it's a serious cause for concern that we're seeing so many of these aspiring mass murderers stacked on top of each other lately.

Or the amount of ammo he had suggests he was a dumb ass kid who thought it'd be like a first person shooter game.

Bonus points for working Newtown in, though.

As for the stacking of mass murders lately, have you considered the fact that the media may play a large role in that?

To someone who's crazy or desperate enough, being infamous is better than being a nobody.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-12 12:04 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Took a look at the photos.

Shooter is dying to look tough.

#20 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-12 12:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hell has to be almost full by now with all of these murderous cowards offing themselves.

#21 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2014-06-12 12:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

Did anyone ever think to stop diagnosing kids with B.S. diseases, stuf---- random crap down their throats (sorry "medicine") that they then become addicted to, and convince them that they are essentially sub-human "machines" that need to be "fixed"? No? Well maybe I'm ---- crazy for thinking this.

#22 | Posted by mariosanchez at 2014-06-12 01:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

This incident, once again is proof that nothing good ever comes from guns ...NEVER

#9 | POSTED BY SAMMYAZ_RI

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

#11 | Posted by DIRTYJeffJ

FF Jeff, well played

#23 | Posted by mariosanchez at 2014-06-12 01:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

I will do what I must, DIRTYMario.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-06-12 01:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

To someone who's crazy or desperate enough, being infamous is better than being a nobody.
#19 | Posted by jpw

We should take away their freedom to become infamous.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-12 02:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

We should take away their freedom to become infamous.

You're naive if you think anything short of taking away their imagination will remove their freedom to become infamous.

You really should read the link in et al's #13. It will likely be informative regarding why you feel the way you do on this topic.

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-12 02:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Also, I would add anti-gun folks have yet to provide a means of effecting change only amongst those seeking infamy.

They're either not paying attention (like to hear themselves talk?) or are too dense to realize most of the propose changes are functionally worthless. None of them would stop any of the events they use as political footballs.

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-12 02:35 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

nothing good EVER comes from SAMMYAZ_RI...NEVER

#28 | Posted by rearendhat at 2014-06-12 07:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

Another white kid. Man at least the Taliban has political aspirations. White kids just want to kill for the chaos factor.

#29 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-06-12 08:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Or the amount of ammo he had suggests he was a dumb ass kid who thought it'd be like a first person shooter game.

You're trying too hard to minimize the danger represented by a nutjob carrying that much ammo. We've had enough of them put it to use to know how likely another huge body count was.

#30 | Posted by rcade at 2014-06-12 08:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Also, I would add anti-gun folks have yet to provide a means of effecting change only amongst those seeking infamy."

I don't worry about spree killers. I worry about reckless, irresponsible dumbasses that shoot people by "accident".

#31 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-12 08:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

To someone who's crazy or desperate enough, being infamous is better than being a nobody.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-12 12:

I think you have a point, sincerely. I also think that this largely explains George W. Bush and the former Vice President, sincerely.

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-12 08:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

Everybody know who Suzanna Hupp is, and her story? Should be required reading for all Gun reform crusaders.

www.youtube.com

#33 | Posted by TuffLuv at 2014-06-12 10:02 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

I don't get why these clowns always pack a huge pile of ammo and then off themselves before they use much of it.

#1 | Posted by REDIAL

They start out with big plans but as soon as someone confronts them they kill themselves. It has happened time and time again.

#34 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-12 10:28 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Or were they clips?

#7 | Posted by apparatchik

They were if they were stripper clips for an old WWI rifle. If he had a moderen gun he had magazines.

#35 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-12 10:30 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

You're trying too hard to minimize the danger represented by a nutjob carrying that much ammo. We've had enough of them put it to use to know how likely another huge body count was.

#30 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2014-06-12 08:15 AM | FLAG:

He had 270 rounds assuming they were 30 round magzines. Why does that sound like a lot? I burn more than that in an hour on a typical trip to the range, and I'm taking my time. 270 is just over half a typical .223 case, or about $85.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-06-12 10:51 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

He had 270 rounds assuming they were 30 round magzines. Why does that sound like a lot?

Because he was a psycho looking to kill people, and 270 rounds would kill a lot of people. There's no comparison between him and a person shooting rounds at a range.

#37 | Posted by rcade at 2014-06-12 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

Then why didn't he use them?

#38 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-12 01:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

You're naive if you think anything short of taking away their imagination will remove their freedom to become infamous.

Right, but we put locks on doors for a reason. Taking away guns make sense for the same reason.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-12 01:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Also, I would add anti-gun folks have yet to provide a means of effecting change only amongst those seeking infamy.

Well, my goal isn't limited to affecting change only amongst those seeking infamy. It's also to affect change upon those who would otherwise be killed pursuant to the quest for infamy.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-12 01:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

I also can't think of a a seatbelt law that only affects people in car crashes. Or a smoking ban that only affects those people who would have suffered health problems in its absence.

It seems to me that your position on gun laws isn't motivated by any interest in affecting any change on anyone. You simply find guns to be an enjoyable hobby or sport or toy or whatever you'd like to call it.

The impact of other people's guns on other people's lives simply isn't part of your calculus.

Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-12 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

The impact of other people's guns on other people's lives simply isn't part of your calculus.

Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.

I don't feel one has to be superior to the other.

Hence why my position has always been to treat the root cause, more often than not mental illness, and actually enforce the laws already on the books.

In other words, I feel we needs to give our current laws and regulations more than a college try before enacting more stringent ones that disproportionately affect people who have done nothing wrong and likely will do nothing wrong.

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-12 04:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Because he was a psycho looking to kill people, and 270 rounds would kill a lot of people. There's no comparison between him and a person shooting rounds at a range.

#37 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2014-06-12 11:22 AM | FLAG:

This particular psycho stole the AR from a range shooter. Even if he had bought the ammo himself, it all comes from the same place. If you have ideas about ammo purchase limitations, lay it out there with some details.

#43 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-06-12 05:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

n other words, I feel we needs to give our current laws and regulations more than a college try before enacting more stringent ones that disproportionately affect people who have done nothing wrong and likely will do nothing wrong.
#42 | Posted by jpw

So then. Should seatbelt laws should be repealed, since they don't address the root causes and disproportionately affect people who have done nothing wrong?

Roughly the same numbers die from cars and guns. Should roughly the same legislative approaches towards public safety be invoked?

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-12 05:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Should seatbelt laws should be repealed, since they don't address the root causes and disproportionately affect people who have done nothing wrong?

This is such an absurd comparison I won't even dignify it with a response.

#45 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-12 05:37 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

What's absurd about it?
Seatbelt laws don't prevent accidents.
And gun bans don't prevent crazy people.
Sounds like you're chickening out to me.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-12 06:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you have ideas about ammo purchase limitations, lay it out there with some details.

I didn't bring the 9 magazines up to talk about ammo purchase limits (though in principle they're worth considering as one idea among many). I brought it up to provide some clarity on what nearly happened in Oregon. We almost had another huge body count school massacre. That's what he was intending.

#47 | Posted by rcade at 2014-06-12 07:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sounds like you're chickening out to me.

If you can't see why it's an absurd comparison you're not really worth arguing with.

Hint-one doesn't have a constitutional amendment as a legal blockade.

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-12 07:42 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Hint-one doesn't have a constitutional amendment as a legal blockade.
#48 | Posted by jpw

Well maybe it should. Does that possible eventuality render this discussion "absurd" and non-haveable for you? Based on my experience it does.

Here's a tip: Why bothering taking cover behind the Constitution? Worried I might be right guns and their lead bullets being bad for health? La la la plug the ears of Liberty and she won't hear the screams when armed idiots achieve stardom and "responsible gun owners" pretend guns are safe because all they've ever shot is targets and bad guys.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-12 08:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Although I have heard another "Constitutional" argument which is that guns protect us from tyranny.

Perhaps it's to be viewed as symbolic, then, and not indicative of real risk, that our four assassinated Presidents were shot, rather than being killed by any of those things I hear are just as deadly as guns. Sic Semper Tyrannis.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-12 08:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

#9 SammyAZ> This incident, once again is proof that nothing good ever comes from guns ...NEVER

Tell that to great-aunt Sadie, who had her front door kicked in late one Saturday evening while she was watching her favorite gospel singing show. The perp had been partaking of some illegal substances and only wanted to 'borrow' some cash (or goods that could be quickly converted to cash). Aunt Sadie pulled out her Saturday Night Special, um, snub nose revolver (she kept under reading material beside her rocking chair), pulled the hammer back and invited the perp to remain still while she called the cops.

The perp was reportedly given a hard time behind bars because an 80+ year old woman captured him.

NEVER? Hah!

#51 | Posted by AKat at 2014-06-12 08:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well maybe it should. Does that possible eventuality render this discussion "absurd" and non-haveable for you? Based on my experience it does.

You think there should be a Constitutional seatbelt amendment?

Here's a tip: Why bothering taking cover behind the Constitution?

Actually, what comes next isn't a tip.

It's two questions and hyperbolic garbage.

And it isn't hiding behind the Constitution. It's acknowledging the reality as it exists; which is that gun control measures will always be subject to a higher review/standard than other public safety measures/laws because of the 2nd amendment.

But even besides that, the comparison is still absurd. Requiring someone to wear a seatbelt is far different in how it "disproportionately affect(s) people who have done nothing wrong". They've lost about 2 seconds and 0.00001 calories. No monetary cost. No potentially inhibitory costs. Nothing.

Many of the gun regulation ideas you hear tossed out there impose all of those on legal gunowners. At worst, you have confiscation of legally obtained and owned personal property (so do gooders such as yourself can feel "safe") through no fault of the owners. If licenses or training or insurance policies are required, you now impose financial and time costs on an individual in order for them to exercise a Constitutional right (is that still "hiding behind the Constitution" to bring it up?). Before you bring up these costs to have a CCW, I'll say a CCW is a privilege, hence the costs.

In other words, you're drawing a false equivalence between two things that are only related in a ridiculously broad sense and then demanding I accept that false equivalence and argue against it. Sorry, I don't accept the premise to begin with as I find it an absurd comparison.

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-12 09:08 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Although I have heard another "Constitutional" argument which is that guns protect us from tyranny.

I only ever hear that seriously argued by people who are self-righteously anti-government and are dumb enough to believe their own BS.

If you take them seriously you need to step back and reconsider.

Perhaps it's to be viewed as symbolic, then, and not indicative of real risk, that our four assassinated Presidents were shot, rather than being killed by any of those things I hear are just as deadly as guns.

So you're pulling a play from the Zed's Book of Gun Debate Tactics?

#53 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-12 09:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's those Damn Guns...why, I understand that Brutus used an assault weapon on Julius Caesar...

Damn Guns...

#54 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2014-06-13 12:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I understand that Brutus used an assault weapon on Julius Caesar..."

Really? What was it?

#55 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-13 01:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

Really? What was it?

#55 | Posted by REDIAL

One of them thar semiautomatic Et Tus..as Caesar said...

#56 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2014-06-13 01:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

At worst, you have confiscation of legally obtained and owned personal property (so do gooders such as yourself can feel "safe") through no fault of the owners.

Since you bring it up, the data indicates that we'd get real safety. Not just the feeling of safety.

Plenty of people feel "safe" with their guns. But it's not real safety. Homes with guns in them are more likely blah blah blah.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-13 02:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

Snoopy, don't forget to post your yard Gun-free Zone sign tonight...sleep tight knowing you are safer...

-Perps thank you

#58 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2014-06-13 02:52 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Snoopy, don't forget to post your yard Gun-free Zone sign tonight...sleep tight knowing you are safer...
-Perps thank you
#58 | Posted by Greatamerican

That's dumb.
Like immigrants, you have to deal with guns at the national level.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-13 03:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.

#41 | Posted by snoofy

You have made so many I don't know where to start.

#60 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-13 09:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

Since you bring it up, the data indicates that we'd get real safety. Not just the feeling of safety.

I can't help but notice what you didn't respond to in place of this. You have real trouble not dancing all over around an issue, don't you?

As for the issue of "real safety", you're only addressing safety from one's self (which I think some genuinely need and would be better solved by getting rid of the foolish notion that there is such a thing as "accidental" shootings) and not safety from others. But hey, guns as a defensive weapon are often conveniently ignored in this debate by anti-gun folks.

#61 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-13 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's it... we need to make a law to restrict loaded magazines to 8.

#62 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-06-13 12:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

"we need to make a law to restrict loaded magazines"

You want to ban High Times?

#63 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-06-13 12:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

If only we could take the people that have an unhealthy fear of weapons and the people that know nothing about weapons (usually the same stooges that fear guns), and remove them from the discussion, things could get done.
Isn't there a thread blaming Bush for something? Maybe a soccer thread, or a thread about faux outrage you could flock to? There has to be a thread about how hard it is for Obama because he is so perfect you know-nothing's could post in.

#64 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-13 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

- things could get done.

Like more weapons in bars, one presumes.

#65 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-13 01:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Like more weapons in bars, one presumes.

I'm sure 101 thanks you for proving his point.

But hey, if you want to prove your irrelevancy by continually trotting out a doom and gloom scenario that has yet to pan out, go for it.

#67 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-13 01:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

-proving his point.

Thanks for helping prove mine.

www.thedailybeast.com

#68 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-13 01:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

But hey, guns as a defensive weapon are often conveniently ignored in this debate by anti-gun folks.
#61 | Posted by jpw

I don't ignore that at all. The offensive uses outweigh the defensive uses. Compare the number of shootings here to modern nations with gun control. (Unless you're suggesting the bulk of those shootings are defensive in nature, which is not the case.)

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-13 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

As for the issue of "real safety", you're only addressing safety from one's self (which I think some genuinely need and would be better solved by getting rid of the foolish notion that there is such a thing as "accidental" shootings) and not safety from others

No, I look at it from a public health perspective. From whom people are being being kept safe isn't part of that analysis. It could be cops or robbers, take your pick. You don't need to know why gun bans work to see that they do work.

But, if you want to get into why the work, that's a different discussion. Across the modern world, there is a nearly linear relationship between gun prevalence and gun violence. Though I think it is debatable whether we fit the mold of a modern country. Those countries have better health care including universal coverage and better social welfare programs. Maybe we're more like a third-world country, with a sub-par health care system (for most), where gun bans don't work, where legitimate opportunities are so scarce for the poor that violence is a reasonable alternative.

We can have that discussion if you like. But across the modern world, the evidence is as clear as day that gun control reduces gun violence.

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-13 04:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Monte,
I sort of agree. I don't think they're chicken, I think they had no idea what taking a life felt like, looked like, sounded like. Add to that, I think most of them are terrified of facing the consequences in jail or in an actual shoot out, and that's why they cut these things short before firing off all their ammo.

At the risk of repeating myself, no plan survives initial contact, especially when you've never taken a life before. They lacked experience. Now wait until some combat vet lets loose on one of these spree killings...like manchurian Bowe.

#71 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-13 04:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Now wait until some combat vet lets loose on one of these spree killings...like manchurian Bowe.
#71 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Come on.
You know they're much more likely to kill themselves.
There are 22 military suicides a day, according to the VA.
Aren't you happy their guns are keeping them safe?

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-13 05:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

-like manchurian Bowe

Nothing like spitting on POWs, eh?

#73 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-13 05:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

O you mean that moron who resented his country and walked off base on his own free will. He made a choice to screw over his unit and got to be a Taliban sock puppet. I certainly do not feel sorry for his captivity or the resentment he has gotten from fellow soldiers.

#74 | Posted by zack991 at 2014-06-13 09:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

#74

Of course not. No need to hear from him. You have the GOP Swiftboating machine in your ears.

Spit on the POW first, ask him questions later.

I get it. It's the rwing thing to do.

#75 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-13 10:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

-proving his point.

Thanks for helping prove mine.

Was your point by chance in the second half of that drivel that I had to stop reading halfway through?

Because otherwise I see why you agree with it and also why you wouldn't find it disgustingly stupid reading.

#76 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-13 10:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Guns in Bars: What Could Go Wrong?

Georgia's new law allows them everywhere -- in libraries, at school -- and permits felons to claim a Stand Your Ground defense. Let's hope it makes Southern white guys feel manlier, at least."

Disgustedly true reading, more like.

#77 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-13 11:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Disgustedly true reading, more like.

If you're oblivious to the bias drippppping off that "article" you're not in a good position to assess what's "true" or not.

It was garbage.

Just as the "what can go wrong" line has become given the number of times anti-gun folks falsely claim a new law will increase gun violence.

Stick to being wrong about Jesus returning. That's at least an optimistic thing to be wrong about.

#78 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-14 01:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

Catty, ain't she?

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-14 10:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

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