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Wednesday, June 11, 2014

Iraq's prime minister has asked parliament to declare a state of emergency after Islamist militants effectively took control of Mosul and much of its province of Nineveh. Nouri Maliki said "vital areas" of the city had been seized; some 150,000 people are believed to have fled. Troops fled Mosul as hundreds of jihadists from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) overran it. The US has said ISIS threatens not just Iraq, but the entire region.

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"We have lost Mosul this morning," said a colonel at a local military command center. "Army and police forces left their positions and ISIL terrorists are in full control. "It's a total collapse of the security forces."

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On CNN Wednesday, House Minority Leader John Boehner told Wolf Blitzer that the loss of U.S. blood and treasure in Iraq is an "investment" and a "small price" to pay if it leads to destroying al Qaeda.

www.pensitoreview.com

Remember this quote?

The problem is that we can't stop these guys with bullets and drones.

#1 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-06-10 02:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

The US has said ISIS threatens not just Iraq, but the entire region.

Well, good thing we left so that Syria and Iran could flood ISIS with arms.

#2 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-06-10 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Was it safer with Saddam in charge??? This seems to be spiraling out of control.

#3 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-06-10 03:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Was it safer with Saddam in charge??? This seems to be spiraling out of control.
#3 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Yes. But should we really expect (have expected) any country to right itself after experiencing an all out cluster ----? The U.S. completely debilitated the country and the people exacerbated the issues, causing significant cultural anomie. Any country would take a lot of time to bounce back from such a scenario, especially a third world country.

#4 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-10 03:11 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

What you don't want to say is, the way Saddam controlled things is what we need.....

That's the only way these animals can be controlled...

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-10 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Any country would take a lot of time to bounce back from such a scenario, especially a third world country.

#4 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

Not according to Obama....

Obama said, "Thanks to sacrifice and service of our brave men and women in uniform, the war in Iraq is over, the war in Afghanistan is winding down, al Qaeda has been decimated, Osama bin Laden is dead."

"A day after 9/11, we are reminded that a new tower rises above the New York skyline, but al Qaeda is on the path to defeat and bin Laden is dead," Obama said in Las Vegas.

"We've got choices about war and peace," Obama said. "I ended the war in Iraq, as I promised. We are transitioning out of Afghanistan. We have gone after the terrorists who actually attacked us 9/11 and decimated al Qaeda."

#6 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-10 04:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

We should never have been in Iraq in the first place.

Our absence from the region is the best thing we could provide.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-06-10 04:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's the only way these animals can be controlled...

#5 | Posted by boaz

Are you talking about arabs or black people today?

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-06-10 04:41 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 5

Militants = terrorists = instability = against the American empire.

Freedom and democracy = mass murder, torture, rape, pillage for the American empire.

Bombs are only terror when strapped to a person; not when dropped from the air.

#9 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-10 08:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

The neocon legacy.

Well that and 4,000+ graves at Arlington.

#10 | Posted by Sully at 2014-06-11 09:44 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

This is the result of a war that has cost thousands of lives and a couple trillion dollars. The Iraqi Army our tax dollars pay for ran away.

#11 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-06-11 11:10 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

This is the result of giving arms to Syrian rebels that are AlQaeda aligned.

There is a possibility they captured many BlackHawk copters and even a super stealth one....
www.zerohedge.com

#12 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-11 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

#9 | POSTED BY SULLY

Unless Obama is a NeoCon...

Lets add arming the Syrian AlQaeda with arms to the list of things that messed up this situation.

#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-11 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sunnis and Shiites fighting?

No one could have predicted that.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-11 01:22 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

What that country needs is an iron fisted dictator that doesn't mess around.

#15 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-06-11 01:45 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 2

The Islamic Group Threatening Iraq Is Too Extreme for Al Qaeda

The militant Islamic group known as ISIS has taken control of the Iraqi cities of Mosul of Tikrit this week, moving closer to its goal of creating a unified Islamic state that straddles the Iraq and Syrian border.

abcnews.go.com

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-11 02:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

al qaeda also considers the us military-industrial apparatus too extreme.

#17 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-11 02:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

ISIL has "liberated" over $400 million and gold bullion from Mosul's banks.

Terrorists are running rampant all over Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya and elsewhere because of America's interference.

Nice job, warmongers! But of course the warmongers will never have to answer for their crimes. They will only be rewarded.

The US is the most dangerous country in the world.

#18 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-06-11 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

The US is the most dangerous country in the world.

#8 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR

Do something about it, tough guy.

#19 | Posted by justanoversight at 2014-06-11 02:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

What that country needs is an iron fisted dictator that doesn't mess around.

#5 | Posted by lee_the_agent

And they had one until we 'helped' them.

#20 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-06-11 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

We freed them WL. The problem is that freedom isn't something you can force on people. It has to be built up properly. This is a failure of the new society to protect itself. Without security, there can not be freedom.

Maslow's pyramid comes to mind.

#21 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-06-11 03:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

freedom is choosing your own form of slavery.

#22 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-11 03:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

#22 I don't trust a man without a vice.

#23 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-06-11 04:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

wow...libs forgetting about the horror of the rule of sadaam hussein....

imagine that.

#24 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-11 06:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wow! Cons trying to claim that Iraq is a better place without Saddam...

Imagine that.

#25 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-06-11 07:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

wow...libs forgetting about the horror of the rule of sadaam hussein....
imagine that.

#24 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

you mean the guy who was shaking hands with donald rumsfeld? that guy, babbles?

tell me again...why would he be cozying up to him? enlighten me like the ex-bandleader you are?

friggin hilarious

#26 | Posted by drewinnj at 2014-06-11 07:30 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 6

The neocon legacy.

Well that and 4,000+ graves at Arlington.

#10 | Posted by Sully

The obummer legacy.

2616 graves in only 5 years.

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-11 09:02 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1


The problem is that we can't stop these guys with bullets and drones.
#1 | Posted by BruceBanner

So I guess the liberal mantra is to join them?

#28 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-12 12:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

The problem is that we can't stop these guys with bullets and drones.
#1 | Posted by BruceBanner

Not now....

Typical defender of Obama, "What can we do now?".......

Its all because the man can't lead...

Classic......

From al-Qaeda to Russia to Iraq, Mitt Romney has not demonstrated that he meets the threshold to be Commander in Chief: http://t.co/5xlidqCe -- OFA TruthTeam (@OFATruthTeam) October 22, 2012

#29 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-12 01:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

FACT: Romney said that not keeping 10,000-30,000 troops in Iraq is one of President Obama's "signature failures." http://t.co/4Hxlf6hY -- OFA TruthTeam (@OFATruthTeam) October 23, 2012

#30 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-12 01:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Obama Presidency is crumbling, from Foreign policy collapsing to Domestic illegal immigration explosion, to people don't have jobs...

The party is over......

#31 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-12 01:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

The shambles that Iraq is in now is a direct result of electing an inept inexperienced Communist organizer.

Lets see Obama has made a shamble of the following:

Libya
Egypt
Iraq
Syria

That's a trifecta of failure if I ever saw one. Also lets not forget his lack of initiative in Iran the one country he should have made a serious effort in.

#32 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-06-12 04:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

MCMLCXX

"The shambles that Iraq is in now is a direct result of electing an inept inexperienced Communist organizer."

MCMLCXX seem to think that we all need a revisionist history lesson.

Tell us again who poked a stick in that dormant hornets' nest on March 20, 2003. Hmmmmmm ????? What was his name again?

#33 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-06-12 06:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

The shambles that Iraq is in now is a direct result of electing an inept inexperienced Communist organizer.

#32 | Posted by mcmlcxx

Not exactly how I would classify Dubya, but I guess I could see a supporting argument.

#34 | Posted by mariosanchez at 2014-06-12 06:17 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Kurds are now claiming control of Kirkuk since the Iraqi army bugged out of there.

#35 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-12 06:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Obama Presidency is crumbling, from Foreign policy collapsing to Domestic illegal immigration explosion, to people don't have jobs...

The party is over......

#31 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-12 01:32 AM | Reply |

Even though it's not laughable, I've gotta laugh. I knew this would happen from the beginning of his ill fated presidency. The guy had no resume and no experience yet you had this vast number of maroooooons buying into "hopey and changey"----now everything is coming down around our ears and there is complete chaos in the land. Wait until the next recession hits and it's coming. We have a so-called recovery where data has been manufactured and manipulated (along with all the markets). The scary thing is that we have 2+ years left yet for this guy to find more ways to destroy our economy and sovereignty.

#36 | Posted by matsop at 2014-06-12 06:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

but we send stuff to libya....armed people in syria.....do nothing in iraq while we're being invaded with welfare cases and democrat votes from the southern border ,.....but its not their fault....the PRESIDENT invited them when he SAID HE WOULD NOT bother them....

so how does that apply here...easy answer....he's doing nothing in iraq because of politics and his legacy.....typical

#37 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-12 07:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

"...he's doing nothing in Iraq..."

What do you suggest? Full blown military occupation forever?

#38 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-12 07:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

I seem to remember that it was Miliki himself, and his Parliament, who squashed the idea of the U.S. leaving a rapid response team in Iraq for occasions such as this. The Parliament refused to indemnify American troops from prosecution so now they're on their own.

I also remember that it was Mailki, and his Parliament, who would not agree to a constitutional amendment that would protect American and British oil companies from nationalization of the oil fields ~ resulting in China and others getting the Research and Development contracts for the vast untapped oil resources.

The worst is, the United States fought the war and China got the oil.

Now Iraq is begging for help????

No way! If they need help, ask China.

#39 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-06-12 07:58 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The obummer legacy.

2616 graves in only 5 years.

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-11 09:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

He certainly deserves some blame but anyone with half a brain can tell the difference between someone who started two poorly thought out occupations and someone who inherited them.

Party of Accountability indeed.

#40 | Posted by sully at 2014-06-12 07:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

What do you suggest? Full blown military occupation forever?

#38 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-12 07:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

No just until they all stop being Muslims.

LOL

#41 | Posted by Sully at 2014-06-12 07:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

"...he's doing nothing in Iraq..."

What do you suggest? Full blown military occupation forever?

#38 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-

His position is, of course, that Obama is weak if he does not go back in, but incompetent if he does.

My understanding is that the Kurds are taking care of things. Its what I would have expected. If true, it means that indigenous forces are taking responsibility for Iraqi security.

An Obama victory, therefore. If I were a Republican, I'd start rooting for an al-Qaeda victory just a wee bit harder.

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-12 07:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

"My understanding is that the Kurds are taking care of things."

They'll likely grab as much of the oil country as they can and let Iran have the rest of the mess.

#43 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-12 08:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

So what's going to be next?

Maybe the Sunni will be asking the U.S. for military help to overthrow the ------.

Back and forth, back and forth. First the Sunni, then the ------, then the Sunni.

Decisions, decisions.

#44 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-06-12 08:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

The neocon legacy.
Well that and 4,000+ graves at Arlington.

#10 | POSTED BY SULLY AT 2014-06-11 09:44 AM | FLAG:

And the GOTP wants to run another neocon pnac in JEB. Why? Is there another country in the middle east not effed up enough already?

#45 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-12 08:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

4,000+ graves at Arlington.

And 274 in a landfill.

#46 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-12 08:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

Here, AFKABABBLE, let me respond in the only language you understand:

Now you can go back to drinking.

#47 | Posted by e1g1 at 2014-06-12 11:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

#30 | Posted by AndreaMackris

So by that statement, I suppose we should have a few thousand troops in every troublesome country in the world, whether they want us there or not.

#48 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-06-12 12:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

A little history lesson:
whatreallyhappened.com

#49 | Posted by morris at 2014-06-12 01:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wow! Cons trying to claim that Iraq is a better place without Saddam...
Imagine that.

#25 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2014-06-11 07:05 PM | FLAG:

It is if your a Kurd. Saddam rained chemical weapons on them. Now with the conflict in Syria, they've effectively carved out a lot of the country they've always wanted.

#50 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-06-12 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

"The US has said ISIS threatens not just Iraq, but the entire region."

But, but....but the apologizing, the bowing, the singing of Kumbayah, didn't that fix everything in the region???? After all the "Hoping and Changing," you mean we better start "changing our hoping." Siiiiiigh. I guess that means the Earth won't cool, the oceans won't stop rising, the jobs situation won't improve, and we won't reach prosperity by taxing, borrowing and spending either. MAN! some folks bought a real pig in a poke with these clowns in office. Something tells me it's gonna get a lot worse too.

www.nytimes.com

#51 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2014-06-12 01:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

So, taking inventory, we failed to defeat The Taliban after 12+ years and now all gains in Iraq to defeat a Sunni insurgency are being rapidly lost. Dubya had almost 6 years in Iraq and a year longer in Afghanistan to take care of business, but this must be Obama's fault. If only "Obummer" would have let ST6 take out Bin Laden. Oh wait!

#52 | Posted by babyhuey at 2014-06-12 04:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Things were well in hand when Bush left but have fallen into complete chaos with Obama.

Obama is so fond of drone strikes how about a few of them on the fanatics who took over these cities. But hey, that would not fit Obama's master plan of a complete klusterf*ck.

#53 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-06-13 02:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Things were well in hand when Bush left but have fallen into complete chaos with Obama.

"Well in hand"?

What was "well in hand"?

Two failed wars? Housing bubble collapse? Lack of revenue due to unnecessary tax cuts? Collapsing economy? 11 American embassies attacked? The destruction of the twin towers, building 7, and one face of the pentagon? Giving up on the search for bin laden? Killing Saddam for no reason? His cocaine habit?

What exactly do you believe George W BushJr had "well in hand"?

He couldn't even keep his two drunken daughters "well in hand".

The only thing George W BushJr's handlers had "well in hand" was control of the ignorant masses.

Tea party gibberish only works on tea party members. Go find some of them to buy your bull.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-06-13 03:55 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Mission Accomplished.

#55 | Posted by TwoCents at 2014-06-13 04:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

Clownshack wrote,

"wo failed wars? Housing bubble collapse? Lack of revenue due to unnecessary tax cuts? Collapsing economy? 11 American embassies attacked? The destruction of the twin towers, building 7, and one face of the pentagon? Giving up on the search for bin laden? Killing Saddam for no reason? His cocaine habit?"

Lets get the facts straight here,

Lack of revenue? Deficit was far smaller under Bush and revenues rose after tax cuts. As for unnecessary well thats a matter of opinion. I personally enjoyed keeping more of my money.

American Embassies attacked? No embassies were bombed under Bush but several were bombed under Clinton!

Killing Saddam for no reason? Ask Amnesty International about that one. They can show you the photos of mass graves of tens of thousands. Lets not forget gassing of Kurds. Maybe you didn't read or watch news during those years.

Housing Bubble collapse: As I recall that was due to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and their mortgage backed security scheme. Republicans tried to reign them in and democrats blocked every attempt. I even remember Maxine Waters exclaiming "Nothing was wrong at Fannie Mae under the outstanding leadership of Franklin Raines".Then ---- hit the fan and Maxine was no where to be found.

As for the twin towers, terrorists tried to destroy them first under Clinton and eventually succeeded under Bush. However, they planned for years before Bush took office and no one under Clinton stopped the plot or the flight training or anything else for that matter. I even remember the Sudan offering Clinton Osama Bin Ladin on a platter and Clinton turned a blind eye.

Isn't history great. A few truthful facts and lame democrats crawl back into their earth filled coffins.

#56 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-06-13 04:56 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#56

Amazing how willing ignorant you are.

The tax cuts didn't help our economy, neither did the unfounded, under funded, wars.

American embassies were attacked. In several different ways. Including bombing. Do keep up. 11 of them.

Amnesty international authorized the killing of Saddam? How many more lies you got?

As for the twin towers, building 7, and the pentagon. All happened under the inept administration of this country's worst president, George w Bush. Whether they deliberately bungled intelligence, aided in the catastrophe, or carried it out, it is and will always be the worst catastrophe to hit America and it happened under BushJr's mockery of a presidency.

As for the "well in hand", what was it that you were trying to elude to?

Absolutely nothing?

How about the staggering amounts of jobs lost during the last year of his presidency? Did he have that "well in hand"?

I see what you meant in #53, George W Bush had failure "well in hand". He was all over that failure. Good of him to fail so spectacularly that it turned half the republicans into independents and the rest of them into bat [...] crazy Tea Party members.

I already know which path you chose to follow.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-06-13 05:15 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#54, #57 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Newsworthy!

#58 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-06-13 09:50 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"The Obama Presidency is crumbling, from Foreign policy collapsing to Domestic illegal immigration explosion, to people don't have jobs...
The party is over......
#31 | Posted by AndreaMackris"

Tell us about it, AndreaChickenLittle

#59 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2014-06-13 01:35 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Klownshak, I know that you are not that ignorant. Our embassies in Africa were bombed in 1998 under Bill Clinton, Kholbar Towers under Bill Clinton, the U.S.S. Cole under Bill Clinton, the first world trade center bombing under Bill Clinton, the Oklahoma Federal building under again Bill Clinton. If Bush is to blame for the twin towers then Clinton is to blame for all the others under his watch.

Amnesty international authorized the killing of Saddam? How many more lies you got?Are you dyslexic or something? No one said Amnesty International had anything to do with Saddam's execution. They simply took photos of mass graves of tens of thousands of Iraqi's who were killed by Saddam's secret police. Saddam was sentenced to death by an Iraqi court and executed by Iraqi's. Are you saying he should not have been put to death for all of the evil acts he did? Do you feel the same about Osama Bin Ladin?

As for the tax cuts they surely did bring us out of the Clinton recession. In the same way John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan slashed taxes and our economy greatly improved. As for the last year of Bush's term had democrats not blocked efforts to reign in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the housing bubble could have been prevented. Their is ample video footage on Youtube of hearings in which democrats blocked attempts by republicans to get Fannie and Freddie under control.

Now with that being said we have had 6 years of Obama and 8 trillion in deficit spending and what do we have to show for it? Negative growth in the first quarter. What a shame his legacy will be. Worse than Jimmy Carters time in office. I never thought I would say that but its true in every since of the word.

#60 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-06-13 03:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

#60

Embassies - Deflecting to Clinton doesn't change the fact that 11 US embassies were attacked during the BushJr administration. That the twin towers fell. That build 7 fell. That the pentagon got hit.

Saddam isn't the first dictator with human rights violations. But he was the first dictator we started a war to dethrone. Funny how BushSr was part of the reason Saddam rose to power in the first place.

And this "trial", held by an all anti Saddam jury. I wonder why they voted the way they did. I wonder how BushJr or Obama would fair against a jury that vehemently hates them. Also. Where did the execution take place? Wonder why...

As for bin laden, I would have preferred he went to court. But. He may have had too much damaging information against our government and so death was his only option.

The Clinton recession? You're too dense to realize this but the recession started with the Reagan tax cuts, Clinton's recession brought in a surplus of revenue, aided by the .com bubble. The unnecessary tax cuts of BushJr along with two unnecessary wars bankrupted our economy.

As for Obama, corporations are reporting all time profits, oil drilling is at it peek, the Middle East is in shambles, gun sales are at an all time high, the rich are richer and the poor are poorer. It's a republican dreamland.

#61 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-06-13 07:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Embassies - Deflecting to Clinton doesn't change the fact that 11 US embassies were attacked during the BushJr administration. That the twin towers fell. That build 7 fell. That the pentagon got hit.

Nice try but the twin towers bombings were a result of intelligence failures not Bush's failure. Thats the same reason Clinton didn't stop the 2 African embassies, The U.S.S. Cole, Kholbar Towers, the first bombing of the twin towers, etc.

Saddam isn't the first dictator with human rights violations. But he was the first dictator we started a war to dethrone. Funny how BushSr was part of the reason Saddam rose to power in the first place.

We deposed a lot more dictators than Saddam. I believe Noriega was one we arrested and convicted.

And this "trial", held by an all anti Saddam jury. I wonder why they voted the way they did. I wonder how BushJr or Obama would fair against a jury that vehemently hates them. Also. Where did the execution take place? Wonder why...

Boo Hoo for Saddam. Sorry you lost your pal and idol. Good riddance as for as I am concerned.

As for bin laden, I would have preferred he went to court. But. He may have had too much damaging information against our government and so death was his only option.

The fact that you would give Osama a bunch of free lawyers and waste million of tax payer resources for a show trial tells me all I need to know about you.

The Clinton recession? You're too dense to realize this but the recession started with the Reagan tax cuts, Clinton's recession brought in a surplus of revenue, aided by the .com bubble. The unnecessary tax cuts of BushJr along with two unnecessary wars bankrupted our economy.
Reagan left office 4 years before Clinton. Actually there was never a surplus under Clinton. Check for yourself at USTreasury.gov. Each year our national debt rose. The lowest being 69 billion. But guess what it went back up Clintons last year because he increased spending and we had a recession.

As for Obama, corporations are reporting all time profits, oil drilling is at it peek, the Middle East is in shambles, gun sales are at an all time high, the rich are richer and the poor are poorer. It's a republican dreamland.

So Obama is making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Corporations are getting rich paying no taxes and borrowing money at near 0% interest. Paper profits on stocks are the same kind of fake wealth created under Clinton. Sooner or later the Fed will have to raise rates thus destroying most of this false wealth. Then the economy will crash and democrats will scramble to sell their lies blaming republicans.

#62 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-06-14 03:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Nice try but the twin towers bombings were a result of intelligence failures not Bush's failure. Thats the same reason Clinton didn't stop the 2 African embassies, The U.S.S. Cole, Kholbar Towers, the first bombing of the twin towers, etc.

Twin tower bombings? While I do agree that the twin towers "falling" was a well organized demolition. I believe you are combining the bombings that happened during the Clinton admin with the twin towers falling under the BushJr admin.

Either way. All you got is deflections.

The rest of your post is ignorable.

We started this discussion with your claim that "BushJr had everything well in hand." Yet you've been unable to identify one thing he had "well in hand". You deflected to Clinton and Obama a lot. But you've yet to provide one thing he had "well in hand."

This discussion is a waste of time. You are a waste of time.

#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-06-14 04:03 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

CLOWNSHACK

If Bush had everything "well in hand" he would have read that daily briefing memo instead of sticking it the "to be filed" box.

There was never a time when Bush had the Iraq War well in hand. It was a tinder box on the verge of imploding at any second on any day.

Cheney and Rumsfeld were lying their asses off with their fingers crossed behind their back and George Bush was loving every minute of it.

Oil was the brass ring ~ the U.S. military was merely a means to an end.

The all belong at the Hague.

#64 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-06-14 05:20 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

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