Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, June 04, 2014

Adam Weinstein, Gawker: Used to be when a bunch of people got murdered with a gun, it was called a "murder." But now it's a "shooting," because the leftist media lies, except it's not a lie, but whatever. The point, according to this awesome he-hulk in an NRA propaganda video is: Don't watch the news! "Now they race to label anything with a gun as a 'shooting,'" complains former Navy Seal and NRA Good Guy With Two Big Guns Dom Rasso in the new video. "Because they know how much more attention they're gonna get with that word."

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7 people where shot in one sitting in Chicago over the weekend. Didnt make headlines because:
Shooter was black maybe MSM is biased in not reporting it
Victims were black maybe MSM doesnt care when black folks are shot
Puts a dent in the whole "ban guns and shootings dont happen" ethos maybe MSM wont report it as glaring example of the failure of near total gun bans.

#1 | Posted by aescal at 2014-06-04 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

I call a shooting a shooting, a hanging a hanging, and a hit and run a hit and run.

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-04 04:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Can we call it "A Well Regulated Militia-ing" ?

#3 | Posted by censored at 2014-06-04 04:56 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 5 | Newsworthy 1

I guess I'll get in trouble if I say guns are designed to shoot things?

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-04 05:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's merely an exuberant outburst of freedom.
Celebrate shootings, for they are proof that you are free.
God Loves Dead Kids.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-04 05:17 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

I guess I'll get in trouble if I say guns are designed to shoot things?

#4 | Posted by Zed

I'd say that I see no reason why you couldn't grant the NRA its wish and say "guns are designed to 'murder'".

#6 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-06-04 05:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Call them price-of-freedomings.

#7 | Posted by rcade at 2014-06-04 05:31 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

7 people where shot in one sitting in Chicago over the weekend. Didnt make headlines because:
Shooter was black maybe MSM is biased in not reporting it
Victims were black maybe MSM doesnt care when black folks are shot
Puts a dent in the whole "ban guns and shootings dont happen" ethos maybe MSM wont report it as glaring example of the failure of near total gun bans.

#1 | POSTED BY AESCAL

It was on all the major news outlets. Not sure what you are talking about.

And since when did Chicago not have a ton of guns? 60% of guns used in violent crimes in Chicago were purchased out of state, especially in Indiana, Mississippi, and Wisconsin.

Law proves to be working. Crimes with guns purchased in Chicago are down. If guns weren't so easy to get elsewhere, all gun violence would likely be down.

#8 | Posted by Sycophant at 2014-06-04 05:57 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 5

Lets just call them murders committed by people using fire arms.

#9 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-06-04 06:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

@OLDWHISKEYSOUR

Rampage shooters don't always kill all their victims.

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-04 06:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

How about...The Slaughterings.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-04 06:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

You've got to look at the original article comments to get some of the alternate names proposed for "shooting." I liked "hole creation".

#12 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2014-06-04 06:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Right - I can see why the left supports the word "shooting" - I mean, calling abortion "reproductive rights" has done wonders for the elimination of the stigma of murder.

#13 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum at 2014-06-04 07:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Right - I can see why the left supports the word "shooting"

#13 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum at

Because use of the word, as a noun and verb, goes back a few centuries?

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-04 07:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Right woke up one morning and discovered, to their horror, that people describe using guns as "shooting", or "a shooting".

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-04 07:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

It' not a shooting;

It's an ammunition exchange program!

#16 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-06-04 07:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Right - I can see why the left supports the word "shooting"

#13 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum at

Because use of the word, as a noun and verb, goes back a few centuries?

#14 | Posted by Zed

A shooting doesn't always involve someone getting shot.

#17 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-04 07:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

A shooting doesn't always involve someone getting shot.

And an abortion rarely involves killing a human being.

Deal?

#18 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-06-04 07:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Can we call it "A Well Regulated Militia-ing" ?

#3 | Posted by censored

No, because -----------, angry drunks and psychs owning guns is a Constitutional right. And thanks to conservatives and the NRA, it has become generally accepted that "a well-regulated militia" was scribbled onto the Constitution by John Hancock's young son, Herbie Hancock, and was never ever meant to be there.

#19 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-06-04 07:32 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

A shooting doesn't always involve someone getting shot.

#17 | Posted by Sniper

For example,

There goes Snippy "shooting" off his mouth without thinking again.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-04 07:43 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 3

No, because -----------, angry drunks and psychs owning guns is a Constitutional right.

No, it's not.

But don't let that stop the rhetorical retch.

#21 | Posted by et_al at 2014-06-04 08:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Murder is non state authorized killing.

Kill one person on the street = murderer.

Kill ten people = serial killer.

Kill hundreds = suicide bomber.

Kill thousands = soldier.

Kill hundreds of thousands = pilot

kill millions = agribusiness.

#22 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-04 08:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

**** Call them FALSE FLAG CHARADES by the CIA,FBI,NSA etc!

#23 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-06-04 08:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Kill thousands = soldier"

You realize Rambo was a fictional character right?

#24 | Posted by Sully at 2014-06-04 08:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

kill millions = agribusiness.
kill tens of millions = liberal definition of "reproductive rights"

#22 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-04 08:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

FTFY

It's really hard to take libs seriously about gun related deaths in the US when they support legalized killing of innocent life in such numbers. And before you get your panties in a twist - 50 million abortions in the US since RvW - how many "state sponsored" executions since 1976 (when death penalty reinstated)? 1,379

50 mil vs 1,379 - hardly a comparison of who is "pro life".

#25 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum at 2014-06-04 08:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

kill tens of millions = liberal definition of "reproductive rights"

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garbage. Neither party is liberal, and I'm not going to waste my time arguing the 'where life begins' question with you. When the reichwing adopts all the unwanted kids around the world then I will accept this argument. Until such time it has no standing what so ever.

It is hard to take people such as yourself seriously when you advocate war, torture, mass killing, and corporate policies that kill millions all over the world in the name of 'pro life'. You don't care about life. You have a baby fetish.

#26 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-04 09:00 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 4

And before you get your panties in a twist

Sadly it's too late for you.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-04 09:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

70 people were shot in the Aurora Movie theater SHOOTING and 12 died. 26 people were shot in the New Town Connecticut SHOOTING and 26 or 100% of victims died, a testament to the shooters training at a NRA approved-recommended gun range.
Nothing good ever comes from guns

#28 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-06-04 09:48 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Why not call guns "killing tools"

#29 | Posted by TwoCents at 2014-06-04 10:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, because gang-bangers, angry drunks and psychs owning guns is a Constitutional right.

No, it's not.

Oh yes it is.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

says NOTHING about -----------, drunks or loonies being excluded. Just activist judges doing it is all.

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killing of innocent life in such numbers. And before you get your panties in a twist - 50 million abortions in the US since RvW
As Aflac the Learned says, Roe v. Wade is settled law. Deal with it.

Zygotes aren't people, dude. And since scientists will soon use a female's DNA to fertilize her own egg, menstruation will be murder. God aborts 1/3 of all pregnancies, so do you worship a baby-killer?

#30 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-06-04 10:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

People are absolutely correct to worry about people carrying guns: the cops, the army, the cia, fbi, etc, kill far more than idiots like these people.

The function of the propaganda isn't to end gun ownership. It is to end gun ownership of those that power doesn't like, and expand gun ownership for those that do its bidding.

Hitler disarmed the masses. He didn't disarm his thugs. That is the point.

#31 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-04 10:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is why I think that both sides of the isle are pretty much irrelevant. Neither party has a problem living in a fascist police state.

The 'left' complains about an armed populace; but has no problem being protected by an army of thugs.

The 'right' complains when women abort a fetus, but has no problem murdering people all over the planet; and has the gall to call itself 'pro life'.

Neither group is liberal; they just argue a little about which flavor of fascism is best.

#32 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-04 11:57 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

"And since when did Chicago not have a ton of guns? 60% of guns used in violent crimes in Chicago were purchased out of state, especially in Indiana, Mississippi, and Wisconsin.
Law proves to be working. Crimes with guns purchased in Chicago are down. If guns weren't so easy to get elsewhere, all gun violence would likely be down." #8 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Couldn't of said it better myself. Gun free zones are idiotic. Last time I called for a gun free US I got a ton of FF's, but seriously, that's what we need.

#33 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2014-06-05 10:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

The NRA needs to abort itself!

#34 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2014-06-05 01:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

You have a baby fetish.

#26 | Posted by Shawn

Actually I think it is a more of a control fetish.

But, I agree with all the rest of your post (which, of course, makes it automatically newsworthy!).

I was, however, disappointed you couldn't manage to squeeze the word "fascist" in there somehow.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-05 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Zygotes aren't people, dude."

Neither are Corporations but that doesn't stop the crazies in the clown car from trying to give them the same rights as people.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-05 04:22 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Neither are Corporations but that doesn't stop the crazies in the clown car from trying to give them the same rights as people.

Doesn't know that all states and the feds have statutes, in some form or another, defining "person" to include artificial entities such as corporations and limited liability companies.

#37 | Posted by et_al at 2014-06-05 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag:


The NRA needs to abort itself!
#34 | Posted by aborted_monson

The NRA is only doing it's job. It's the Democrats in Congress who are not doing theirs. The Democrats are weak on gun control.

#38 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-06-05 09:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Neither are Corporations but that doesn't stop the crazies in the clown car from trying to give them the same rights as people.

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You cannot have a republican government and invulnerable 'people' at the same time. They are mutually exclusive.

#39 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-05 11:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Doesn't know that all states and the feds have statutes, in some form or another, defining "person" to include artificial entities such as corporations and limited liability companies."

REally irrelevant, corporations were not intended to be persons under the 14th Amendment, that is really what this whole argument should be about. There was absolutely no intention to include corporations, as persons, when that amendment was passed. You know that, I know that, so what we really have is a century long purposeful misinterpretation of our constitution. Unless of course, you are going to argue that the amendment was passed with the personhood of corporations in mind? You know it wasn't and so did the members of the SC who have an agenda and really aren't that concerned with actually upholding the constitution.

#40 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-05 11:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

"You know it wasn't and so did the members of the SC who have an agenda and really aren't that concerned with actually upholding the constitution.

Posted by danni"

Unlike Obama....who always holds up the constitution...

#41 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2014-06-05 11:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

A shooting doesn't always involve someone getting shot.

#17 | POSTED BY SNIPER

You have to be joking. Getting shot is literally and only caused by a shooting.

#42 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-06-06 12:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

It is essential to understand how corporations prior to the Civil War were legislatively defined, so we may better appreciate what we can discover and make use of today, using the sections still present in our state constitutions -- as well as reinstating and strengthening in favor of nature, citizens, and communities, many sections that have been repealed by corporate groups seeking to make incorporation laws more "corporate friendly" -- to overthrow corporate authority, and reinstate the authority of we the sovereign people. Up to the mid-1800s,

Corporations had limited duration, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years -- they were not given forever, like corporate charters are given today.

The amount of land a corporation could own was limited.

The amount of capitalization a corporation could have was limited.

The corporation had to be chartered for a specific purpose -- not for everything, or anything.

The internal governance was very different --

shareholders had a lot more rights than they have today, for major decisions such as mergers; sometimes they had to have unanimous shareholder consent.

There were no limitations protections on liability -- managers, directors, and shareholders were liable for all debts and harms and in some states, doubly or triply liable.

The states reserved the right to amend the charters, or to revoke them -- even for no reason at all. [5]

#43 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-06 03:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

#43 | Posted by Shawn

I think you forgot something...

#44 | Posted by mariosanchez at 2014-06-06 03:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

Doesn't know that all states and the feds have statutes, in some form or another, defining "person" to include artificial entities such as corporations and limited liability companies.

#37 | POSTED BY ET_AL

The forcible return of escaped slaves to their "owners" was the law at one time, as was the suppression of black voters and the segregation of public facilities. Just because it's the law, doesn't make it right or even necessarily make sense.

"If the law supposes that," said Mr. Bumble, squeezing his hat emphatically in both hands, "the law is a ass - a idiot"

#45 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-06-06 10:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

#43 | POSTED BY SHAWN

You forgot one of the biggest ones: Corporations were originally not allowed to own other corporations! If they are "persons" under the 14th Amendment, how can they "own" one another, when the 13th Amendment prohibits the ownership of one "person" by another "person". Only a lawyer (or legislator - frequently the same people) could fail to see the absurdity of that.

Just because it's "the law" doesn't mean it makes sense to anyone but the lawyers.

#46 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-06-06 10:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

#46 For that matter, how can an individual own a corporation then?

If corporations are people too, my friends, then that would be slavery, which is unconstitutional.

#47 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-06 10:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

Exactly! Consistency is not one of the "conservatives" strong points.

#48 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-06-06 11:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

If a merger is not slavery, then perhaps it's a marriage. I thought that was only supposed to be "between one man and one woman" according to the "conservatives"

#49 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-06-06 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

If a merger is not slavery, then perhaps it's a marriage.

Nah, it would be closer to cannibalism.

#50 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-06 11:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Consistency is not one of the "conservatives" strong points.

#48 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN AT 2014-06-06 11:01 AM | FLAG:

Most of them are consistently stupid.

#51 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-06 11:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

"...the leftist media lies, except it's not a lie, but whatever."

Sentence police. Pull over.

Now, which is it?

#52 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-06-06 12:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

So are there male corporations and female corporations, so that we can have 'mergers' is those states which define marriage requiring a man and a woman?

#53 | Posted by mad_as_hell at 2014-06-06 02:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well what about corporate "gay" marriage?

#54 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-06-06 03:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

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