Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, June 03, 2014

Hillary Clinton defended President Barack Obama's move to free a long-held U.S. prisoner of war from Afghanistan in exchange for five men being held at Guantanamo Bay in a speech on the outskirts of Denver on Monday night. "This young man, whatever the circumstances, was an American citizen -- is an American citizen -- was serving in our military," Clinton said. "The idea that you really care for your own citizens and particularly those in uniform, I think is a very noble one."

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Total BS, if she actually thinks that than she has no business running for office.

#1 | Posted by fishpaw at 2014-06-03 10:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wonder what her "secret" lunch last Thursday with Obama was about?
thehill.com

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-03 10:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

Clinton was there for the 3 A.M phone call..... no no no not Benghazi the

Let's Make a Deal Call.

5 high level Terrorist for a Traitor doesn't sound like a very good deal to me but then again I'm not a Liberal Dimocrat,,,

,,,

#3 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2014-06-03 11:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Wonder what her "secret" lunch last Thursday with Obama was about?"

Ha...she was told that she had to back up the administration on this one or they would squeal about where she was and what she was REALLY doing during the attack in Benghazi.

#4 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2014-06-03 11:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, well now that failed Secretary of State and notable foreign policy moron Hillary Clinton has thrown her weight behind the move, I guess this is settled.

#5 | Posted by Sully at 2014-06-03 11:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

"This young man, whatever the circumstances, was an American citizen -- is an American citizen -- was serving in our military," Clinton said.

If the guy was off his rocker, that doesn't mean we don't go get him if we can.

my concern is about the price. If we felt it was critical to continue imprisoning these bad guys.....then why not continue to keep them detained.

maybe we inserted chips into these bad guys and we plan to drone them as soon as possible.

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-03 11:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'd laugh if this is another one of those deals where she isn't on the same page with Bill and he rips the Admin.

#7 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-06-03 11:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

I don't have a problem with trying to get the soldier back even after he deserted. I like Eberly have a problem with trading senior Taliban members that knew on 9-10 what was going to happen on 9-11. Hillary is going to either have to start being critical of Obama or she won't be seen as fit to be the next president.

#8 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-03 11:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

#8

I think "whatever the circumstances" is a little too forgiving. IOW, the circumstances, including what we traded up for him, matter at least a little.

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-03 11:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

Matters of desertion or AWOL status is to be determined by a military tribunal ---- not a rush to judgment by media personalities and their slavish internet harpy sycophants.

Oh yea ---- "Fifty Years to Judge" the "circumstances" of the trade and all that.

#10 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-06-03 12:21 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

For the record, Condi Rice agreed that it was within the legitimate powers of the Presidency to make the exchange.

All the talk about the "price" is just more bitter 'Monday morning quarterbacking' and anti Obama politics.

#11 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-06-03 12:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

-a Traitor

"A transcript of radio intercepts, publicly released through Wikileaks, indicates that Bergdahl, then 23, was captured while sitting in a makeshift latrine.

'We were attacking the post he was sitting,' according to a radio intercept of a conversation among insurgents.

'He had no gun with him. ... They have all (the) Americans, ANA (Afghan National Army), helicopters, the planes are looking for him. Can you guys make a video of him and announce it all over Afghanistan that we have one of the Americans?'

www.dailymail.co.uk

Amazing all the "patriots" here ready to call a soldier a traitor without all of the facts.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 12:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hillary always chooses her words carefully. I don't think we'll be having a ticker tape parade for Bergdahl.

#13 | Posted by visitor_ at 2014-06-03 12:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

#14

That's one story, told by people who didn't like him. The insurgent intercepts appear to tell a different story.

I just think we should have an investigation with him present before we convict him as a traitor... more out of Obama Hate than anything else.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 01:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

"For the record, Condi Rice agreed that it was within the legitimate powers of the Presidency to make the exchange."

Really, you think that makes a difference to critics?

As for Hillary beating up on this admin, I'm sure she'll level some criticism if she actually runs for office (which I hope she does not do).

#16 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-06-03 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's been 72 hours, and no articles of impeachment have been filed.

Note to House Republicans, if you don't impeach Obama for this, he'll continue to thumb his nose at you. You already know he's a secret Muslim, and this prisoner exchange validates that fact. Hurry up before he gives in to Hawaiian secessionists who want to be under Japanese rule. Impeach the sorry SOB, already!

#17 | Posted by DCTexan at 2014-06-03 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

All the talk about the "price" is just more bitter 'Monday morning quarterbacking' and anti Obama politics.

#11 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 20

Amazing all the "patriots" here ready to call a soldier a traitor without all of the facts.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-0

the man deserted his post which means he abandoned his fellow soldiers.

it's amazing how so many libs here who served are defending him. EVEN if you are a drone lib and served, you have a little more cred on this issue.... That's your right, though, but it doesn't mean you ARE right.

as to the issue....HILLARY AGREES with something this guy does??
wow...not exactly 'breaking news' is it ?

#18 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-03 01:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

5 high level Terrorist for a Traitor doesn't sound like a very good deal to me but then again I'm not a Liberal Dimocrat,,,
,,,

#3 | POSTED BY ATAXPAYER

What makes him a traitor? Or do you not know the difference between traitor and deserter?

Hillary is going to either have to start being critical of Obama or she won't be seen as fit to be the next president.
#8 | POSTED BY DALTON

She has truly screwed the pooch. Especially now that we know she was the one that halted an attempt at getting Bergdahl back in exchange for a couple of low-priority terrorists a couple years back because she wanted the Afghanistan War (?) to continue. Exchanging of captives is an indication that the War is being drawn down. She said no. Bergdahl sat. And now the administration felt compelled to finally move (Bergdahl's health?) when the price for Bergdahl is highest. Not a good move on her part. IMO, all the crap should be shoveled onto Hillary.[...]

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 01:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

#18

AWOL = traitor = treason... there's a new one.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 01:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

-She said no. Bergdahl sat.

You have a vivid imagination.... unless you have some proof of that?
A link perhaps that there was an opportunity that she refused?

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 01:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

the man deserted his post which means he abandoned his fellow soldiers.

Yes, the definition of a deserter, not a traitor. It's not that hard to tell the difference. But it sounds so much better to B. Hussein Obama detractors when they can say "That damn B. Hussein trading the most dangerous terrorists on the planet for some TRAITOR!" Right?! HAHAHAHA!

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 01:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

#21 | POSTED BY CORKY

10) Negotiations to bring Bergdahl home have been in the works for years -- with Obama originally imagining the prisoner swap as an election-year overture toward a durable peace with the Taliban.

President Obama [has] announced that the United States will now pursue "a negotiated peace" with the Taliban. That peace is likely to include a prisoner swap – or a "confidence-building measure," as U.S. officials working on the negotiations call it – that could finally end the longest war in America's history. Bowe is the one prisoner the Taliban have to trade. "It could be a huge win if Obama could bring him home," says a senior administration official familiar with the negotiations. "Especially in an election year, if it's handled properly."

11) But the swap didn't have the backing of then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or Pentagon chief Leon Panetta, who weren't ready to negotiate an end to the war, preferring the bloody path of counterinsurgency operations.

...Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, are very wary about making a swap for Bowe. "Panetta and Hillary don't give a ---- about getting him home," says one senior U.S. official involved in the negotiations. "They want to be able to say they COINed their way out of Afghanistan, or whatever, so it doesn't look like they are cutting and running."

www.rollingstone.com

#23 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 01:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

- preferring the bloody path of counterinsurgency operations.

Yeah, that sounds like objective journalism there, lmao.

You need to learn the difference between fact and opinion.... what you posted is opinion.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 01:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

#24 | POSTED BY CORKY

Oh, really? OK. Thanks for pointing that out to me CORKY. She's got my vote now.

:-/

#25 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 01:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't the Israelis commonly trade like 20 bad guys for 1 of theirs?

#26 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2014-06-03 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

#25

Like I said, this is more about politics than a POW for some people.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

If we felt it was critical to continue imprisoning these bad guys.....then why not continue to keep them detained.

What's this "WE" crap?

Some of us still believe in the Constitution and want GITMO shut down.

Do we believe in the concept of due process and the right to a fair trial or not?

If we do not have the balls to charge them with a CRIME and put them on trial then release them back to their home countries.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-03 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#26 | POSTED BY MONTECORE

They traded over 1000 Palestinians for the last single prisoner they got back.

But then, what would the Israelis know about how to handle terrorists?

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 01:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't the Israelis commonly trade like 20 bad guys for 1 of theirs?

#26 | Posted by mOntecOre

Bergdahl was Army so he was only worth about 5 bad guys.

If he was Marine he would be worth about 100.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-03 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Some of us still believe in the Constitution and want GITMO shut down.

Posted by donnerboy

And some of you read it selectively after it goes through the paper shredder.

#31 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-06-03 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

If he was Marine he would be worth about 100.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy

Unless he was being held by the Mexican Taliban for taking a wrong turn.

#32 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-06-03 01:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

CORKY -

But the swap didn't have the backing of then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or Pentagon chief Leon Panetta, who weren't ready to negotiate an end to the war.

What part of "who weren't ready to negotiate an end to the war" don't you understand?

"I want to be very clear. The United States is committed to Afghanistan and to the region. We will be there," Clinton said, acknowledging India's concern that Pakistani influence on the country will grow while the U.S. presence recedes. "Yes, we are beginning to withdraw combat troops and transfer responsibility for security to the Afghan people, a process that will be completed in 2014, but drawing down our troops is not the same as leaving or disengaging." www.cfr.org

#33 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't the Israelis commonly trade like 20 bad guys for 1 of theirs?

#26 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2014-06-03 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

So? It's a completely different situation.

#34 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-03 01:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

#27 | POSTED BY CORKY

You asked a question. I offered an answer. You didn't like the answer so you passed it off as "opinion." Clearly, what you perceive as "opinion" (that Clinton had no interest at the time of drawing down the war) is fully supported with her own words, which should indicate a factual basis.

But you still want to focus on the POW? He's fine. Let's move on to what his coming home means for the future of our country, shall we? Or are you having trouble taking that on?

#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 02:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

#33

What part of ... it's an opinion not a fact do you not understand.

there is no evidence they had the opportunity to free him and passed on it. There is only a non-objective opinion of a writer that they were not interested because it did not benefit them politically.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 02:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't the Israelis commonly trade like 20 bad guys for 1 of theirs?
#26 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2014-06-03 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

It was more like a thousand "bad guys" for one Israeli soldier. Though, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first, nor the last, right CORK?

#37 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 02:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Unless he was being held by the Mexican Taliban for taking a wrong turn.

#32 | POSTED BY WISGOD

That case is really disturbing.

You would think that negotiating his release wouldn't be terribly difficult.

#38 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-06-03 02:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

- Let's move on to .... a real investigation with him present.

You can Hate on Obama and Hillary anytime.

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 02:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Unless he was being held by the Mexican Taliban for taking a wrong turn.

#32 | Posted by wisgod

Yeah..that's relevant.

Knowing what country you are in while carrying guns is pretty important.

Like driving through Texas with a few joints in my car. I am sure you would be the first to forgive me for getting caught doing that..right?

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-03 02:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"And some of you read it selectively after it goes through the paper shredder."

Some of you do, too, if "you" includes people who voted for/supported Bush.

#41 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-06-03 02:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

If he was Marine he would be worth about 100.

Beirut Bonzo traded the lives of 240 Marines for diddly-squat.

#42 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-06-03 02:06 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Some of you do, too, if "you" includes people who voted for/supported Bush.

#41 | Posted by pragmatist

Whew! Thanks for bring up Bush! Corknnerboy

#43 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-06-03 02:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

You can Hate on Obama and Hillary anytime.
#39 | POSTED BY CORKY

Hillary's war-hawk mentality has truly made it easier.

#44 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 02:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Hillary's war-hawk mentality has truly made it easier."

Hillary is a corporatist and imperialist, in other words, a modern-day Democratic party "progressive".

#45 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-06-03 02:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Beirut Bonzo traded the lives of 240 Marines for diddly-squat.

#42 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Oh great...now you brought up Saint Reagan..Wisaltonpayer is gonna have a aneurysm.

#46 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-03 02:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

43: Oh, please. It's entirely relevant to point out that some of the same people accusing one guy of shredding the Constitution when they were silent about the previous guy doing it. Bringing up another guy is not always a deflection.

"Oh great...now you brought up Saint Reagan..Wisaltonpayer is gonna have a aneurysm."

Well, that one is more of a deflection than mine, but ... yeah.

#47 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-06-03 02:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

#18

AWOL = traitor = treason... there's a new one.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-

at not ONE WORD can you point to where I called him a traitor....so what you posted is a lie.....

however, down the road if we find he helped the enemy, he should be placed in front of a wall and SHOT.....

but as far as post 18...stop making stuff up. !!

#48 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-03 02:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, the definition of a deserter, not a traitor. It's not that hard to tell the difference. But it sounds so much better to B. Hussein Obama detractors when they can say "That damn B. Hussein trading the most dangerous terrorists on the planet for some TRAITOR!" Right?! HAHAHAHA!

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-0

and you as well...the premise of this post is a lie..stop making stuff up....

#49 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-03 02:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh great...now you brought up Saint Reagan..Wisaltonpayer is gonna have a aneurysm.

#46 | Posted by donnerboy

Iran-Contra was not on the terrorist list. See how that works?

#50 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-06-03 02:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

#50

Neither is the Taliban. See how that werks?

Obama Didn't Negotiate With ‘Terrorists' for Bergdahl

time.com

#51 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 02:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

AWOL = traitor = treason = George BushJr.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-06-03 02:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama Didn't Negotiate With ‘Terrorists' for Bergdahl

time.com

#51 | Posted by Corky

Then he just released 5 Monsters for the hell of it. I assume you've looked at their accomplishments.

#53 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-06-03 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Then he just released 5 Monsters for the hell of it. I assume you've looked at their accomplishments.

#53 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2014-06-03 02:47 PM | FLAG:

Ooooo! Monsters!!

"Look under the bed for monsters while I change my depends."

~Wissy to his wife.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-06-03 02:52 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Dear GOP: The US Has Negotiated with Terrorists and Amnestied Them All Through History

William Howard Taft (later president) in the Philippines was all for negotiation with Filipinos who rejected US rule, and he created "attraction zones" to win them over. At the conclusion of the Aguinaldo resistance to US occupation in 1902, Teddy Roosevelt declared a general amnesty for the resistance fighters. These resistance fighters had committed some atrocities, including on captured US troops, but Roosevelt just let them walk free.

In 1973, the US used intermediaries to negotiate with the Viet Cong for release of captured US soldiers at Loc Ninh. Americans on the political right made a huge issue about 1300 US soldiers never having been released by the Viet Cong (only about 400 were), and the shame that these men were left on the battlefield by the Nixon and Ford administrations. Conservatives seem to want to have it both ways. If you negotiate the release of US captives with the enemy you are "negotiating with terrorists." If you don't, then you have left soldiers behind on the battlefield.

In the 1980s radical Shiites in Lebanon took American hostages. In order to free them, the Reagan administration not only negotiated with Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini but actually stole T.O.W. anti-aircraft munitions from Pentagon warehouses and shipped them to Tehran, receiving the money for them in black bank accounts and sending it to right wing death squads in Nicaragua.

The Israelis did a prisoner swap, at 1000 to one, for Gilad Shalit, and it hasn't caused more Israelis to be captured. Why do right wing Americans only hold up Israel as a model when it acts unwisely, rather than when it (as it often does) acts pragmatically?

Common Dreams

#55 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-06-03 03:36 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#56

It's a False Flag Op!!

Just like a conspiracy theorist.

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-03 03:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

How come the Army kept giving him his promotions over the years if they had reason to believe he deserted?

#58 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2014-06-03 03:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

and you as well...the premise of this post is a lie..stop making stuff up....
#49 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

Accusing me of lying? HA! Many B. Hussein detractors are stating that exactly. Five of the most dangerous terrorists in the world released in exchange for a TRAITOR!

#59 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 04:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Granted, we don't have the objective, unvarnished account of what went down. My take is that Bergdahl was incredibly naïve and ignorant of the ways of the world and the military when he joined the army. You cannot be inducted, graduate boot camp, ship out, and THEN become a conscientious objector. He wanted to go to Afghanistan to help people? a textbook example of naïveté.

From what i understand, he was a deserter. That does not equate with being a traitor; nothing indicates he had any intelligence that he gave to the enemy, for political or monetary reasons.

Republicans: you might have legitimacy in your call to impeach the president IF you had done so while Bush was committing war crimes left & right. But you have no legitimacy.
It is incumbent upon the Democrats to call for & commence impeachment, the ones with any integrity, which you were lacking in the Bush years. Not that it will happen.

#60 | Posted by kenx at 2014-06-03 04:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

i'll re-state: Obama is using the Imperial Presidency that George W. Bush established, with FULL APPROVAL of all Republicans. Hypocrites!

#61 | Posted by kenx at 2014-06-03 05:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Obama Didn't Negotiate With ‘Terrorists' for Bergdahl

time.com

#51 | Posted by Corky

not if but WHEN these five are back in the field and killing people, you and others here who are approving of this action will need to wipe your hands.

but surely someone else put your name here..YOU BELIEVE the liars when they tell you they were dickering with QATAR and not the TALIBAN.....

aha aaha ha aha ha ,...,talk about gullible....

#62 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-03 06:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

and SPEAKING OF LIARS and the people who LIE for them ....for the people who BELIEVE THE LIES.....and people who REPEAT the lies...

let's listen to PROOF that these people have LIED OVER AND OVER...here's one of the original LIES...

www.tpnn.com

#63 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-03 06:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Don't the Israelis commonly trade like 20 bad guys for 1 of theirs?
#26 | Posted by mOntecOre"

"So? It's a completely different situation.
#34 | Posted by Dalton"

In what way?

#64 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2014-06-03 07:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

We don't pick and choose who our countrymen are. They just are, and we do what we can to bring them home. That's what America has always done.

#65 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-06-04 12:53 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

.... Taliban Kept Bergdahl Alive...Treated Him Better Than the VA Treats U.S. Soldiers!

**** The POWER in Washington could care less about a Grunt like Bergdahl or any other G.I. - So you have to ask yourself What's In It For the Washington Mafia? The whole Scenario Stinks to High Heaven!

#66 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-06-04 01:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Accusing me of lying? HA! Many B. Hussein detractors are stating that exactly. Five of the most dangerous terrorists in the world released in exchange for a TRAITOR!

#59 | Posted by rstybeach11 a

right...you were lying when you accused me of calling him a traitor...

#67 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-04 02:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

#67 ~ "The Obama Administration has shrugged-off the release of the GITMO terrorists by claiming that U.S. forces could always recapture them," a notion that appeared to set-off Col. West. "You see, that's easy for some punk-boy-pajama person sitting up there in Washington, D.C. ..."

These 5 Taliban are still in custody at another location, is that not correct? THEY ARE NOT AT LARGE. We are just hearing hissy fits which will sound anytime Obama does anything.

"The five Taliban detainees at Guantánamo...were flown from Cuba in the custody of officials from Qatar, who will accompany them back to that Persian Gulf state. They will be subject to security restrictions there, including a one-year travel ban." NYT

Qatar [a monarchy] maintains close relationships with western powers -- Al Udeid Air Base plays HOST TO US and UK AIR FORCES -- and eastern powers, and has often tried to bridge the gap between Muslim and non-Muslim states. (Qatar is a member of Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, Gulf Cooperation Council, OPEC and the Council of Arab Economic Unity.) WikiP

#68 | Posted by kenx at 2014-06-04 03:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

They will be subject to security restrictions there, including a one-year travel ban."

Oh well - that's a relief! No worries now...no lives endangered...

#69 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2014-06-04 03:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

"This young man, whatever the circumstances, was an American citizen -- is an American citizen -- was serving in our military," Clinton said."

Actually he wanted to give up his citizenship. As for being in the army I think when he walked off he was no longer in the army only a deserter.

Could Hillary get any more stupid. And you democrats think she is presidential material? Of course you did vote for Obama.

#70 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-06-04 04:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hillary defends the exchange while the Obama Admin says they overlooked the 30 day notice law. Man, talk about the Party that couldn't shoot straight....

#71 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-06-04 07:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Oh well - that's a relief! No worries now...no lives endangered..." GREATAMERICAN

Speaking of lives endangered, GA: you are aware i hope, that the Taliban had all but eradicated the opium fields (heroin production) in Afghanistan, and WE, the great United States of America, went in there and began cultivating opium again. i already knew this, and happened to catch a 60 Minutes segment in which footage was shown of American soldiers installing irrigation systems for the poppy plants. (And Afghanistan is once again the world's #1 heroin supplier...LIVES ENDANGERED.)

Now that was done under W Bush, whose daddy is known as a top drug kingpin in the world, and who was instrumental in flooding US inner cities with crack. You've got no leg to stand on, GA, trashing Obama, just because he is in organized crime, also.

#72 | Posted by kenx at 2014-06-04 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

Funny. Just a few months ago right-wingers were raising hell that Obama was "leaving Bergdahl to rot" in Afghanistan...freedomoutpost.com

#73 | Posted by cbob at 2014-06-04 03:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

Speaking of lives endangered, GA: you are aware i hope, that the Taliban had all but eradicated the opium fields (heroin production) in Afghanistan, and WE, the great United States of America, went in there and began cultivating opium again. i already knew this, and happened to catch a 60 Minutes segment in which footage was shown of American soldiers installing irrigation systems for the poppy plants. (And Afghanistan is once again the world's #1 heroin supplier...LIVES ENDANGERED.)

Now that was done under W Bush, whose daddy is known as a top drug kingpin in the world, and who was instrumental in flooding US inner cities with crack. You've got no leg to stand on, GA, trashing Obama, just because he is in organized crime, also.

#72 | Posted by kenx at 2014

what tha hell ???

please give us the punch line ....

#74 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-04 03:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

I had heard somewhere this AM that Hillary has 'refined' her reply to this and even admitted that SHE negotiated with the TALIBAN but decided against doing this.....still looking for thread to link...

HOWEVER>....TOP DEMOCRAT IN HOUSE INTELLIGENCE MEMBER SAYS.........

The top-ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger, who represents Maryland's 2nd congressional district, called Obama's release of five notorious Islamic terrorists a "dangerous precedent that puts all Americans at risk throughout the world."

As WJZ reports, Ruppersberger also stung the Obama regime for breaking U.S. policy by negotiating with terrorists.

"Since World War Two we have not negotiated with terrorists or other groups," Ruppersberger said, as reported by WJZ's media partner the Baltimore Sun. "What concerns me is the future. This puts all Americans at risk throughout the world, including our men and women on the front line…for kidnapping."

#75 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-04 03:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Since World War Two we have not negotiated with terrorists or other groups," Ruppersberger said, as reported by WJZ's media partner the Baltimore Sun. "What concerns me is the future. This puts all Americans at risk throughout the world, including our men and women on the front line…for kidnapping."

#75 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-04 03:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

I do understand and share that concern. On the other hand, five years is a pretty long payoff.

#76 | Posted by cbob at 2014-06-04 03:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

why does the 5 years make a difference?

#77 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-04 03:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Because if they have to wait five years, the enemy can never be sure you're going to negotiate. If you make a swap right away, they know they've got your number.

I'm not saying five years makes it ok, necessarily, I'm just saying that things change over time. We're getting out of Afhanistan, and we had a prisoner there. The opportunity arose.

#78 | Posted by cbob at 2014-06-04 04:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

This woman's husband has made a fool out of her on the regular. Who CARES what Hillary Clinton thinks? She can't even manage her own marriage much less anything else. And YES, it's relevant. Cheat once, nothing done, it's repeated. Swap a hostage once, expected & counted upon & an incentive to do more of the same.... She knows the pattern of appeasement if nothing else..

#79 | Posted by HATEBIGGOV at 2014-06-04 05:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

#74 ~ "please give us the punch line"
yes sir. An Air Force Lt. committed suicide by jamming a shotgun down his throat & pulling tue trigger, after he discovered drugs being smuggled in the coffins of our Afghanistan casualties. It's just effin HILARIOUS! the whole ----storm.

Hillary, not that i like her, argued for a harder bargain for Bergdahl, per NPR today.
this was a no-win for Obama: leaving him to rot or bargaining for his return (where he may be court marshaled & imprisoned for desertion, unless "time served" considered for his 5years "helping" the Afghani people).

#76 ~ so, CBOB, how comfortable are you with the fact that the War on Terror will extend into perpetuity?

#80 | Posted by kenx at 2014-06-04 06:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

CBS News reported tonight on the evening broadcast, that per military law, one must have been at large for 30 DAYS (before return or capture) to be charged with desertion. Bergdahl is believed to have been captured 30 MINUTES after he left his unit, certainly within 24 hours. It is doubtful he can be charged as a deserter.

Bergdahl, as i wrote prior, was naïve at best (& at worst just stupid). He reminds me of when i joined the Navy at 19, with no knowledge of the world at large. i did a short stint AWOL and was dropped a pay grade. i WAS discharged early (about which i am NOT proud) & honorably, because i was the go-to Corpsman on my destroyer tender (a big effin ship), i.e., a good medic (of which i AM proud).

#81 | Posted by kenx at 2014-06-04 07:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

in typical hillary lying lib fashion...she NOW wants EVERY ONE to know that she had a chance to make this deal but SHE SAID NO...

say anything...change anything...no principles or integrity....she NOW has a different story...

gopthedailydose.com

#82 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-04 07:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

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