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Monday, June 02, 2014

Former Sgt. Matt Vierkant, a member of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl's platoon, told CNN Bergdahl should face military trial for desertion. Bergdahl disappeared from his platoon in Afghanistan June 30, 2009, and had been in Taliban custody for five years before his release Saturday. He has been taken to a U.S. military base in Germany for treatment. "I was pissed off then and I am even more so now with everything going on," Vierkant said. "Bowe Bergdahl deserted during a time of war and his fellow Americans lost their lives searching for him." CNN said at least six soldiers died searching for Bergdahl in Paktika province.

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Some fellow soldiers have taken to social media to express their anger at Bergdahl on such pages as "Bowe Bergdahl is NOT a hero." Comments, however, have been so vicious, a moderator posted:

"I challenge any one of you who label him a traitor to spend 5 years in captivity with the Taliban or Haqqani, then come back and accuse him again. Whatever his intent when he walked away or was captured, he has more than paid for it."

"He walked off," former Pfc. Jose Baggett, 27, of Chicago told CNN. "He left his guard post. Nobody knows if he defected or he's a traitor or he was kidnapped. What I do know is he was there to protect us and instead he decided to defer from America and go and do his own thing. I don't know why he decided to do that, but we spend so much of our resources and some of those resources were soldiers' lives."

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Fellow soldiers call Bowe Bergdahl a deserter, not a hero
By Jake Tapper, CNN

www.cnn.com

"Said Bergdahl's former squad leader, Greg Leatherman: "I'm pleased to see him returned safely. From experience I hope that he receives adequate reintegration counseling. I believe that an investigation should take place as soon as healthcare professionals deem him fit to endure one."

"According to first-hand accounts from soldiers in his platoon, Bergdahl, while on guard duty, shed his weapons and walked off the observation post with nothing more than a compass, a knife, water, a digital camera, and a diary. Many of Bergdahl's fellow troops -- from the seven or so who knew him best in his squad, to the larger group that comprised the 1st Battalion, 501st Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division -- told CNN that they signed nondisclosure agreements agreeing to never share any information about Bergdahl's disappearance and the efforts to recapture him. Some were willing to dismiss that document in hopes that the truth would come out about a soldier who they now fear is being hailed as a hero, while the men who lost their lives looking for him are ignored.'

"A former member of Bergdahl's squad who has yet to identify his last name publicly but goes by "Cody" tweeted this weekend that before he disappeared, Bergdahl once told him, "If deployment is lame, I'm going to get lost in the Mountains and make my way to China."

Leatherman told CNN that Bergdahl "always looked at the mountains in the distance and talked of 'seeing what's on the other side.'"

Cody noted in his Twitter recollections a story that others from Blackfoot Company relay. While soldiers were searching for Bergdahl, a platoon "came upon some children, they asked him have they seen an American. The children said 'yes, he was crawling on his belly through weeds and acting funny a while ago,'" according to Cody."

Moreover, other operations were put on hold while the search for Bergdahl was made a top priority, according to officers who served in Afghanistan in that time. Manpower and assets -- such as scarce surveillance drones and helicopters -- were redirected to the hunt. The lack of assets is one reason the closure of a dangerous combat outpost, COP Keating, was delayed. Eight soldiers were killed at COP Keating before it was ultimately closed.

One soldier with the 509th Regiment, a sister unit of the 501st, told CNN that after Bergdahl disappeared, the U.S. Army essentially was told to lock down the entire province of Paktika. He described sitting in the middle of a field with his platoon, vulnerable, with capabilities and personnel mismanaged throughout the region. Different platoons ran out of water, food, and ammunition.

Two mortarmen -- Pvt. Aaron Fairbairn and Pfc. Justin Casillas -- were killed in a July 4, 2009, attack.

"It was unbelievable," the soldier said. "All because of the selfish act of one person. The amount of animosity (toward him) is nothing like you've ever seen before."

#1 | Posted by zack991 at 2014-06-02 08:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

Everyone here wanted first hand accounts to what he did and here you go. Lets discuss.

#2 | Posted by zack991 at 2014-06-02 09:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

I just listened to someone who served with Bergdahl and he said it was no secret Bergdahl despised America and was planning on leaving, walking to China or India. He also stated that they began to have a problem with IED's in vulnerable locations as soon as Bergdahl disappeared.
Mission accomplished Obozo. I guess you could wait to "f" our service men with the VA you now have placed them in even more danger by you treasonous and eligible trade. All so you can say that you kept your promise and closed GITMO. You liberals must be sooo proud.

#3 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-06-02 09:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

So, if all this is true, he'll face a court martial.

What's the big deal?

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#4 | Posted by Dave at 2014-06-02 10:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

i am not going to throw Bergdahl under bus just they didn't like him.
if he is charged with dessertion then we'll see.

was he listed as AWOL? have no charges been filed then or now?
again, if some of his peers didn't "like" him, sounds like that personnel has a problem needed to be dealt with. so, if i'm going to speculate it'll both ways., especially absent charges.

#5 | Posted by ichiro at 2014-06-02 10:24 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

hearsay, panny. why spread hearsay.

#6 | Posted by ichiro at 2014-06-02 10:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

"hearsay, panny. why spread hearsay."

Brain damage?

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#7 | Posted by Dave at 2014-06-02 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

This is why you don't want a bunch of liberals expressing individual traits in the military.

They do stupid stuff and go off "To find themselves" in War Zones.

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-02 10:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

#6 | POSTED BY ICHIRO

Fellow soldiers call Bowe Bergdahl a deserter, not a hero
"I was pissed off then and I am even more so now with everything going on," said former Sgt. Matt Vierkant, a member of Bergdahl's platoon when he went missing on June 30, 2009. "Bowe Bergdahl deserted during a time of war and his fellow Americans lost their lives searching for him."

According to first-hand accounts from soldiers in his platoon, Bergdahl, while on guard duty, shed his weapons and walked off the observation post with nothing more than a compass, a knife, water, a digital camera, and a diary.
www.cnn.com

US soldier Bowe Bergdahl 'played badminton with captors'
US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel demurred on Sunday when asked by reporters if Sergeant Bergdahl had gone AWOL (absent without leave) or deserted his post, saying only that "other circumstances that may develop, and questions - those will be dealt with later".

Read more: www.smh.com.au

#9 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-06-02 11:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

And the Spin begins, I wonder what NBC will cover.

Susan Rice: Bergdahl Served With 'Honor and Distinction'
President Obama's national security adviser, Susan Rice, said on ABC that Bowe Bergdahl "served the United States with honor and distinction" and that "Sergeant Bergdahl wasn't simply a hostage; he was an American prisoner of war captured on the battlefield,"
www.weeklystandard.com

#10 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-06-02 11:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

The whole Bowe Bergdahl situation is a deflection for an administration on its heels........

#11 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-02 11:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

The whole Bowe Bergdahl situation is a deflection for an administration on its heels........

#11 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

thehill.com

#12 | Posted by goatman at 2014-06-02 11:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

The whole Bowe Bergdahl situation is a deflection for an administration on its heels........
#11 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

I don't see this as a 'Wag the Dog' scenario.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-06-02 12:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

The only hero here is Obama.

#14 | Posted by shirtsbyeric at 2014-06-02 12:23 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The dad's beard is handsome and trendy.
His Urdu is culturally sensitive too.
Certainly not a weirdo whatsoever.

But it begs the question:
Where is mom's stylish burqa?
I hope she's not an Islamapobe.

#15 | Posted by pajama_boy at 2014-06-02 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

U.S. concluded in 2010 that Bergdahl walked away
news.yahoo.com

"A Pentagon investigation concluded in 2010 that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl walked away from his unit, and after an initial flurry of searching the military decided not to exert extraordinary efforts to rescue him, according to a former senior defense official who was involved in the matter."

"Questions persisted, too, about the circumstances of Bergdahl's 2009 capture. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel declined to comment on earlier reports that the sergeant had walked away from his unit, disillusioned with the war. Such matters "will be dealt with later," Hagel said.

But the former Pentagon official said it was "incontrovertible" that he walked away from his unit.

The military investigation was broader than a criminal inquiry, this official said, and it didn't formally accuse Bergdahl of desertion. In interviews, members of his unit portrayed him as a naive, "delusional" person who thought he could help the Afghan people by leaving his army post, the official said."

"Nathan Bradley Bethea, who served as an officer in Bergdahl's unit, said in an article Monday on the Daily Beast website that Bergdahl was not on patrol, as some reports have suggested.

"There was no patrol that night," he wrote. "Bergdahl was relieved from guard duty, and instead of going to sleep, he fled the outpost on foot. He deserted. I've talked to members of Bergdahl's platoon_including the last Americans to see him before his capture. I've reviewed the relevant documents. That's what happened."

#16 | Posted by zack991 at 2014-06-02 09:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

#14 | Posted by shirtsbyeric

There was a time, not too long ago, when I considered chicken hawks to be the worst.

Hero indeed.

#17 | Posted by wurster at 2014-06-02 09:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't see this as a 'Wag the Dog' scenario.
#13 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

It wasn't supposed to be this complicated. But in the light of an administration getting heat for the VA, nothing comes across better than hastily put together (hence the "sidestepping" of the law) prisoner exchange, but its kind of blowing up on them unfortunately for the Veterans.

I would be willing this was concocted over the last 4weeks. the offer has been out there by the Taliban since he was captured.

Friday Rickey is let go, Sunday prisoner exchange.....

PRESS: But hey what about the VA?
OBAMA: Well I fired Rickey....

This whole thing is a to move the focus off our Veterans.

#18 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-02 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

I just don't see it, Andrea.

Don't get me wrong - this administration is, IMO, the most politicized since Nixon.

Having said that, Obama bought himself some time by removing Shinseki. The VA was temporarily off-the-radar.

If this was a politically-motivated deflection it was a stupid one.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-06-02 10:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

OBAMA: Well I fired Rickey....

Which every B. Hussein Obama detractors was screaming for from the get go.

This whole thing is a to move the focus off our Veterans.
#18 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

I'm so glad all the B. Hussein Obama detractors think so.

#20 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-02 10:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Besides, MACKRIS, if this were a "Wag the Dog" type situation, why would he break the law to do it? This is impeachable according to most on The Right (radio?). So here you go! B. Hussein Obama on a platter! Oh but wait, no VA scandal more important?

Hmmmmmmm.......

Priorities....priorities........

#21 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-02 10:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

If this was a politically-motivated deflection it was a stupid one.
#19 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

HAHA! My sentiments exactly.

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-02 10:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not defending the guy, but...

If he was so "Anti-American" (or was just he anti-war?) why was he put out there? Apparently EVERYONE knew it right? When did these anti-war thoughts start? When did he start talking about walking away? I guess I am wondering if it is PTSD related?

I mean is he mentally challenged? He thinks he is just going to walk away and cross the mountains? Did he help the Taliban as insinuated? Who knows at this point. Did they torture him? Again...

Just trying to decide if he is really just that dumb.

#23 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-06-02 11:38 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The other side of the coin?
Sergeant Robert Bales walked off base and murdered 16 Afghan civilians.

Expecting "normal" behavior in an environment as complicated and surreal as the Afghan War is unrealistic.
Or are we to believe the behavioral and neurological issues many of our Iraq/Afghan veterans only manifest themselves on discharge?
We've forced our soldiers to make multiple combat tours, enacted stop-loss to extend active duty requirements and pushed the all volunteer Army to it's limits. Too few doing too much for too little.

The reports of soldiers in Bergdahl's unit signing non-disclosure releases is as disturbing as the handling of Pat Tillman's friendly fire death.

Certainly the original 2009 Army investigation should be revisited and reopened, but it's quite possible that Bergdahl is incapable of providing a coherent narrative of his actions or motivations.
Likely we will never know more than what is already known and everyone will believe what they already do.

#24 | Posted by kingcuke at 2014-06-03 02:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

.... Aiding & Abetting CorpoRat America!

**** Hey it was an ILLEGAL WAR...an OIl WAR instigated solely for the Greedy,Blood Stained Profit$ of CorpoRat America...so Vierkant what were you doing there in the first place...what are you a willing War Criminal or just another Patsy-Moron???

#25 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-06-03 06:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

So, if all this is true, he'll face a court martial.

#4 | Posted by Dave

Not as long as little o is in orifice. He has been welcomed back as a hero by obummer.

#26 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-03 10:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

"some" soldiers call Bergdahl a deserter???

"some"?????

More I read, the more obvious that the word 'some' is a bit a misleading.

It would be much more accurate to say that SOME soldiers won't call him a deserter.

But it seems 'most' (perhaps 'nearly all', or even 'all', but waiting for more data before saying that) of those that served with him DO call him a deserter (or worse).

#27 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-06-03 12:10 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

So, if all this is true, he'll face a court martial.

What's the big deal?

The big deal is that five allegedly dangerous people were released in exchange for Bergdahl. If it turns out Bergdahl wasn't a captured hero but instead deserted his own unit, the exchange would appear to be less warranted.

I imagine you already knew that, but explaining the obvious to morons is par for the course here.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2014-06-03 01:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

here's a view from someone else who was there...he asked his name be left off because he knows just what intolerant and hate filled desperate people there are on defending the LAW BREAKER named Obama.....

You want it from the horses mouth?? Here ya go..We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little "out there". Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased.

#29 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-03 02:58 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don't know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don't know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his "capture". If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday."

#30 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-03 02:59 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

and I KNOW since I've been here before that every radical leftist sitting in their cubicle or having their low fat latte KNOW MORE THAN THIS AUTHOR does....but I'll choose to pay more attention to this guy !!

#31 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-03 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

And I suppose now you Cons have absolutely no problem with these soldiers all breaking their non-disclosure agreements to speak out...as long as they continue to say what YOU want to hear.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-03 03:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

"...the exchange would appear to be less warranted."

#28 | Posted by JOE

'Appear' being the operative word, moron.

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#33 | Posted by Dave at 2014-06-03 04:00 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

WASHINGTON -- Sometime after midnight on June 30, 2009, Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl left behind a note in his tent saying he had become disillusioned with the Army, did not support the American mission in Afghanistan and was leaving to start a new life.

www.nytimes.com

#34 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-06-03 04:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

#34 | POSTED BY WISGOD

NEWSWORTHY

#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 04:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

The one thing I will agree with that I have seen so far...

Sgt Bergdahl does need to be held accountable for his actions.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-03 05:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

he whole Bowe Bergdahl situation is a deflection for an administration on its heels........
#11 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

I don't see this as a 'Wag the Dog' scenario.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-

I don't know about 'wag the dog' but there is NO DOUBT WHAT SO EVER by anyone who's not a blind partisan drone....that's it part of the PLAN

goes to afghanistan.....which is more than okay...

speech at west point where he tells them we're getting out..

and now THIS in order to begin his 'legacy' of emptying GITMO......

and ALL for party over country !!!!!

#37 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-03 06:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sgt Bergdahl does need to be held accountable for his actions.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2

good for you...but so does OBama.....he clearly and without a shadow of a doubt IGNORED the law...he didn't even tell fienstein.....but now she says the white house called and said not telling her was an 'oversight'..

what a lying ......

#38 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-03 06:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

#38 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

You see? Why would B. Hussein commit a crime in order to distract the public from Benghazi or VA scandal?

#39 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-03 06:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

good for you...but so does OBama.....he clearly and without a shadow of a doubt IGNORED the law...he didn't even tell fienstein.....but now she says the white house called and said not telling her was an 'oversight'..

what a lying ......

#38 | Posted by afkabl2

Obama did what any US President or CIC should do.

He got our soldier back into the ranks where he belongs.

If you think that Congress would have been of any help in this matter you haven't been paying attention.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-03 06:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Besides, MACKRIS, if this were a "Wag the Dog" type situation, why would he break the law to do it? This is impeachable according to most on The Right (radio?). So here you go! B. Hussein Obama on a platter! Oh but wait, no VA scandal more important?

#21 | Posted by rstybeach11

He doesnt care if it's impeachable or not. It takes a supermajority of Senators to remove him from office and that frankly isnt going to happen, short of him murdering political opponents on national television. Part of me thinks even that wouldnt be enough for some of the Democrats that grace the halls of the Senate.

Im not concerned about this transfer, we cant hold those guys indefinitely and they'll always be within arms reach. They're compromised. Besides that, Bergdahl had to be brought home, because regardless of why, who, or for what, he is still an American soldier, whether he or we like it or not. What seriously upsets me is that the national security advisor has the gall to compliment his service. It shows a complete detachment from reality or a willingness to lie in the face of undeniable truths. A simple "we had to" is sufficient enough to explain what he did, that is self-evident.

#41 | Posted by americanPLY at 2014-06-03 08:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

What seriously upsets me is that the national security advisor has the gall to compliment his service. It shows a complete detachment from reality or a willingness to lie in the face of undeniable truths.

I've yet to read a single word in where his "service" was anything less than exemplary. Are there reports regarding his deficiency that I'm unaware of?

As of today, all we know is that many of his fellow soldiers believe that he deserted before his capture. That doesn't have a thing to do with his "service" up to that point. The military has already stated that they will investigate his situation and bring charges if they're warranted.

But unless something else comes up during the investigation, there is no earthly reason for criticizing anyone who compliments his service at this point. The man just spent five years in captivity as a US military uniformed prisoner. That should be praiseworthy in anyone's book.

#42 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-06-03 09:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

LOL. So you can still be an "exemplary servant" when you abandon your job?

Jesus christ, the level of intentional ignorance on this site is absolutely pathetic.

#43 | Posted by JOE at 2014-06-03 10:23 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Being shot at is hard on sanity.

#44 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-03 11:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.dailymail.co.uk

so.....we just NOT talking about any of this???

#45 | Posted by GotTruth at 2014-06-04 05:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

If you think that Congress would have been of any help in this matter you haven't been paying attention.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy

So following the Law get's thrown out the window and you applaud? Even Dianne Feinstein had more sense than you.

#46 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-06-04 07:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

#42 | Posted by tonyroma

I'll go with what the soldiers are saying. They were there. Soldiers know what's going on. One thing I learned while in command, listen to your soldiers.

And it's more than one saying this. I'll go with the soldiers.

#47 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-04 07:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

And Tony,

Take a look at #34, that's enough for me..

#48 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-04 07:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

#42 | Posted by tonyroma

You arent paying attention. It's been common knowledge that he walked away from his post. There's nothing distinctive or honorable about giving yourself up to the enemy without any need whatsoever. He doesnt get credit for his time as POW in my book because he did it to himself. Quite frankly, I dont consider him worthy of the rank of Sergeant either, he didnt earn it. It was given to him because of regulations. The same ones that he defied by abandoning his post.

Bringing him back was a necessity. The person that advises the President of The United States on issues of national security calling this guy's service honorable and distinctive is scary to me for the before mentioned reasons.

#49 | Posted by americanPLY at 2014-06-04 08:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Are there reports regarding his deficiency that I'm unaware of?"

Tony, there was a Army report in 2010 that concluded he deserted his post. If that isn't a deficiency I would ask what you a deficeiency is.

#50 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-04 09:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Once again the Obama administration screws up. They made this a political scene when they trotted out Susan Rice who has no credibility left at all to tell us this soldier served with honor and distinction. Which we now know is a complete lie. She then lied claiming he was captured on the battlefield as if there was a fire fight happening at the time. Which we know now was a complete lie. Obama trots out the family to pull at the nations heart. This was all orchestrated to cover up the fact that Obama traded the taliban's top tier people for a guy that walked off from his duties and quit.

#51 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-04 09:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Jesus christ, the level of intentional ignorance on this site is absolutely pathetic.

#43 | Posted by JOE at 2014-06-03 10:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

Tony Roma is a guy who searched and searched for conspiracy theories to claim Sarah Palin wasn't the mother of her child. So much so that he claimed if he was wrong he would never post here again. At the same time anything Obama does wrong he can't figure it out or can't see it. It shows the level of hackery he is capable of.

#52 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-04 09:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Tony, there was a Army report in 2010 that concluded he deserted his post. If that isn't a deficiency I would ask what you a deficeiency is."

not one of the obamabots will, or even can recognize that.

They can't. it's that simple. their brains are wired to ignore anything that points a finger in the direction of Obama.

Of course, we will let due process and the system evaluate Bergdahl's actions and we will have to live with it.

But make no mistake. The obamabots aren't interested in due process......only the image of Barack Obama matters. Due process can go to hell (to quote one them).

#53 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-04 09:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

"here's a view from someone else who was there...he asked his name be left off because he knows just what intolerant and hate filled desperate people there are on defending the LAW BREAKER named Obama....."

Quoting a nameless source? Anyone could make up anything and post it as first hand knowledge. That you would post it as documented first hand report makes you look like an idiot.

#54 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-04 09:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

Quoting a nameless source? Anyone could make up anything and post it as first hand knowledge. That you would post it as documented first hand report makes you look like an idiot.

#54 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-04 09:22 AM | Reply | Flag

Danni what do you think about the comments that Bergdahl deserted his post from his fellow soldiers who were there and have spoke out since his release?

#55 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-04 09:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

Danni what do you think about Obama sending Susan Rice(again) to lie about Bergdahls service? Claiming he served with honor and distinction when the Armcy concluded he was a deserter?

#56 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-04 09:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Danni what do you think about the comments that Bergdahl deserted his post from his fellow soldiers who were there and have spoke out since his release?"

I think I'll wait for an investigation and to hear Sgt. Bergdahl's defense.

www.drudge.com

#57 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-04 09:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think I'll wait for an investigation and to hear Sgt. Bergdahl's defense.

www.drudge.com

#57 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-04 09:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

What I'm asking is knowing what we know now. Which is the Army concluded in 2010 that Bergdahl was a deserter. That's a fact. Should Obama and Susan Rice tell the American people that he served with "honor and distinction"?

#58 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-04 09:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Danni you questioned un named sources above. What do you think about actual soldiers that served beside Bergdahl saying he simply decided to quit and walk off from his post?

#59 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-04 09:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think I'll wait for an investigation and to hear Sgt. Bergdahl's defense.

#57 | Posted by danni

You mean like McCaskill touting the release and doing a 180 and now willing to wait for actual facts? You people really need to stop jumping the Obama Support gun. You'd look less foolish if you did.

#60 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-06-04 10:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

Too bad Obama isn't willing to wait for a investigation. Oh wait that's right the army did a prelimanary investigation in 2010 and concluded that Bergdahl walked off and left his post. Even knowing that Obama and Susan Rice lie to us again knowing if they tell the truth the American people will see what a crappy deal he brokered.

#61 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-06-04 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

I suspect the investigation of Bergdahl is going to determine that he was suffering from mental anguish and that is what caused him to write that note and wander off. Further, he is going to claim that he regretted his actions immediately and he has been an enemy combatant like any other, even tried to escape (unless that story gets proven false) and we'll just have to accept it.

If that's true then is it really worth all of the outrage over this guy?

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-04 11:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

What I'm asking is knowing what we know now. Which is the Army concluded in 2010 that Bergdahl was a deserter. That's a fact. Should Obama and Susan Rice tell the American people that he served with "honor and distinction"?

#58 | Posted by Dalton

Knowing what you know now?

What do YOU know of war?

You need to change your depends.

War is hell. PTSD does strange things to you.

Desertion from war (if this is even the case) happens. 50,000 deserted in WWII.

When confronted with following our own conscience in a time of war our acts may seem strange to the folks like you back home safe in your little world.

And "Honor and Distinction" probably probably doesn't mean what you think it means.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Semper Fi

#63 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-04 04:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

probably probably

#64 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-04 04:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

"50,000 deserted in WWII."

I hope none of their parents were invited to the WH for a photo op with the president.

#65 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-04 04:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

I hope none of their parents were invited to the WH for a photo op with the president.

#65 | Posted by eberly

I doubt any of them spent 5 years in captivity as a POW.

An excerpt from the book "The Deserters: A Hidden History of World War II" discusses the reality of desertion in war time.

Many were afraid. They had reached a point beyond which they could not endure and chosen disgrace over the grave. Some recounted waking, as if from a dream, to find their bodies had led them away from the battelfield(sic).

Others, like Weiss, fought until their faith in their immediate commanders disappeared. Was it a form of madness or a dawning lucidity that led them to desert? Glass does not claim to be able to answer that question to which Weiss himself had devoted his latter years to addressing to no avail.

Others still deserted to make money, stealing and selling the military supplies that their comrades at the front needed to survive. Opportunists and crooks, certainly, but not cowards - the life they chose was every bit as violent and bloody as battle.

50,000 American and 100,000 British soldiers deserted during World War II. Yet according to Glass the astounding fact is not that so many men deserted, but that so few did.

Only one was executed for it, Eddie Slovik. He was, until that point, by his own assessment the unluckiest man alive.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk

But, I am sure you and the rest of the wingnuts trying to enflame an already terrible situation could care about the reality of it all and why this young lad did what he did.

#66 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-04 05:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

"But, I am sure you and the rest of the wingnuts trying to enflame an already terrible situation could care about the reality of it all and why this young lad did what he did."

you poor sap. If you'll notice, I'm only enjoying the conversation...I'm not trying to execute this kid.

it's amazing what effect the powerful attraction to Obama's balls have on people, like you.

#67 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-04 05:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

you poor sap. If you'll notice, I'm only enjoying the conversation...I'm not trying to execute this kid.

Your fake sympathy is misplaced. You should feel sorry for the inhumanity of your cohorts on these threads.

Good. I am glad you are enjoying yourself.

He deserves better treatment than what the mob is giving him.

#68 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-04 06:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

He deserves better treatment than what the mob is giving him.

#68 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

I am not sure what you mean by this.

What 'treatment' is he receiving that you deem to be unjust/unfair?

Please provide some specific examples - direct quotes, if possible. RW strawmen don't cut it.

Please note: I may find myself in agreement with you on this. My questions are not rooted in doosheiness, or some kind of 'gotcha'. I recognize the strong possibility that your statement is based upon something that I have yet to see.

#69 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-06-04 06:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Please provide some specific examples - direct quotes, if possible. RW strawmen don't cut it.

Seriously?

I am sorry I cannot help you. You are obviously way too far gone if you cannot see how this poor boy and his family are being drug thru the muck by Fox News and its rabid followers.

Oooh that smell! Can't you smell that smell?

It is a disgusting smell.

The smell of hate.

#70 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-04 08:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Seriously?
I am sorry I cannot help you. You are obviously way too far gone if you cannot see how this poor boy and his family are being drug thru the muck by Fox News and its rabid followers.
Oooh that smell! Can't you smell that smell?
It is a disgusting smell.
The smell of hate.
#70 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

I asked a straightforward question. In the process of doing so I allowed for the possibility that you had information that I have yet to see; the possibility that I haven't looked at this thoroughly enough.

I was hoping you'd provide something more than a Lynyrd Skynyrd song quote.

#71 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-06-04 11:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

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