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A U.S. citizen who was fighting in Syria with the nom de guerre Abu Hurayra al-Amriki -- or Abu Hurayra "the American" -- died in a suicide attack in Syria's Idlib province last Sunday, according to rebel sources. News of the American's "martyrdom" was spread over social media by fellow fighters and is under investigation by U.S. authorities. Two U.S. officials told Reuters that the reports are likely "authentic," and if reports are confirmed, al-Amriki would be the first known U.S. citizen to have died in a suicide operation in Syria -- where suicide attacks by foreign fighters, including those from Western countries, are not unusual.

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Maybe if after graduating from Texas A&M someone in his home state had looked past Mr. al_Amrika's obvious personality flaws, and offered him employment, this terrible incident could have been prevented. My condolences to his family and friends in Texas

#3 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-05-29 07:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'd give that troll a 2/10. You don't seem to be trying hard.

In real news, state dept confirmed it happened but won't give out his identity or hometown. I'd bet on Michigan, where the first American jihadi to die in Syria came from.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-05-30 08:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

An American suicide bomber? That makes me nervous. Could that happen here in the US?

#5 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-05-30 11:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

An American suicide bomber? That makes me nervous. Could that happen here in the US?

#5 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-05-30 11:30 AM | Reply | Flag

I thought the same thing when I saw the report on the news. I would have thought it would have gotten more attention than it has to this point. According to reports there a hundred or so Americans that have gone to Syria to fight. Pretty scary stuff.

#6 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-05-30 11:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

some people's goal in life is to bring meaning and purpose to their life...

while other people's goal is too bring meaning and purpose to their death.

#7 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-05-30 12:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

According to reports there a hundred or so Americans that have gone to Syria to fight. Pretty scary stuff.

#6 | POSTED BY DALTON AT 2014-05-30 11:44 AM | FLAG:

At least 2 of them are Armenian, fighting on behalf of the Assad regime. They say they are defending ethnic Armenians who have been protected from the religious militias by that regime. iirc, they're from 2 different East LA sets, both under the MS-13 umbrella.

They showed off their martial skills in their video.. Blind firing AKs over walls while holding them sideways and sticking their faces up against holes looking at the front lines. Probably a safe assumption they're dead by now.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-05-30 02:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

They showed off their martial skills in their video.. Blind firing AKs over walls while holding them sideways and sticking their faces up against holes looking at the front lines. Probably a safe assumption they're dead by now.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-05-30 02:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

If they're fighting the religious militias then you're probably right.

If they're fighting the "good rebels" then they've probably reached a stalemate because the "good rebels" exhibit a similar level of competence in their videos.

#9 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-30 02:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

According to reports there a hundred or so Americans that have gone to Syria to fight. Pretty scary stuff.

#6 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-05-30 11:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

At least they're walking their talk. Aside from people who have family there, they are probably the only 100 Americans I'd believe when they claim to care about Syria.

#10 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-30 02:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

They believe in the Syrian people the same way Amb Stevens believed in the Libyan people, and are willing to risk their lives for what they believe.

Of course, the idea that only people who go there to fight actually hold such beliefs is rather juvenile.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-30 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

"They believe in the Syrian people the same way Amb Stevens believed in the Libyan people, and are willing to risk their lives for what they believe."

Why are you invoking Stevens? Is that a feel good story to you? Were his efforts successful? Was his trust appropriate?

Typically someone who pays for being wrong with his life is not presented as an example to emulate.

"Of course, the idea that only people who go there to fight actually hold such beliefs is rather juvenile."

Juvenile is grandstanding and being holier than thou over a cause you support just as much as the detractors you are criticizing.

#12 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-30 02:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Irony is that at home he couldnt afford or openly carry a fully automatic weapon with 100+clip, or RPG, or Anti-tank Guided Missle. Yet he goes to Syria, pledges loyalty to an Al Quada aligned group, and recieves all the mentioned on a US tax payers dime, compliments of the administration and war hacks like McCain.

#13 | Posted by aescal at 2014-05-30 03:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Typically someone who dies for his beliefs is honored, not demeaned to make a political point.

Juvenile, in this case, is claiming that unless one goes to fight they cannot support those who do.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-30 03:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Strange that you think a suicide bomber should be honored.

#15 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-05-30 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Your lack of reading comprehension is, by now, not at all strange.

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-30 03:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Typically someone who dies for his beliefs is honored, not demeaned to make a political point."

You said it. I read it just fine.

#17 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-05-30 04:18 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"Typically someone who dies for his beliefs is honored, not demeaned to make a political point."

Was that your purpose in bringing him up? "I'll invoke Stevens and because he's dead nobody can say anything!". Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

I was content to let him rest in peace. You made him a subject of debate by bringing him up. And given how and where he died, its safe to say that not all of his beliefs about the situation in Libya were accurate.

"Juvenile, in this case, is claiming that unless one goes to fight they cannot support those who do."

How are you supporting those who do?

We both know you're doing nothing so quit the grandstanding already.

#18 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-30 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Juvenile, in this case, is claiming that unless one goes to fight they cannot support those who do.

posted by corky

Funny, you were one of the more adamant ones who came down on republicans who were for the ME wars but didn't fight in one or were even in the service themselves, corky. Now you are saying that is a juvenile attitude?!?

Again we see a proggie playing the "different rules for us" card.

#19 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-30 04:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

You said it. I read it just fine.

#17 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-05-30 04:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

He was talking about Stevens. I can see why you didn't think so. Typically, when we say someone died for their beliefs, we are talking about someone who willingly died or put their life in severe jeapardy to support a cause. The suicide bomber fits that description.

Stevens doesn't really fit that mold. He didn't need to put his life in jeopardy to do his job over there, he just didn't realize how much danger he was in and it lead to poor decisions.

#20 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-30 04:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Stevens would have known before he was killed that if he were murdered over there, it would serverely undermine the cause he held dear. There is no way he was trying to risk his life over there. He just misjudged the situation.

#21 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-30 04:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh my bad then Corky. Thanks Sully. I read it in the context of the story.

#22 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-05-30 04:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

#17

No you read it out of context.

- put their life in severe jeapardy to support a cause.

Which is exactly what Amb Stevens did.

(your reading comp is much better than Dalton's, but the spelling? Meh...

-you're doing nothing

I am pointing out the failure of isolationism to be a good substitute for Bush's imperialism.

There is middle ground.

-There is no way he was trying to risk his life over there. He just misjudged the situation.

Everyone who knew him and wrote about him after would say you are nuts.

He knew the situation very well, turned down additional guards on multiple occasions, and was willing to die for his beliefs.... however alien you might find such a concept.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-30 05:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

He knew the situation very well, turned down additional guards on multiple occasions, and was willing to die for his beliefs.... however alien you might find such a concept.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-30 05:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Even if that is true, the doesn't prove him right. He's dead and Libyans on their own now.

#24 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-30 07:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

In other words Corky: You couldn't have chosen a worse example to support the point you're trying to make.

#25 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-30 07:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

"-you're doing nothing

I am pointing out the failure of isolationism to be a good substitute for Bush's imperialism.

There is middle ground."

LOL. That's what Syrians need: Pointer outerers!

#26 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-30 07:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Just a matter of time before the Teahadists and Fox News zombies start doing the same thing in the US.

#27 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2014-05-31 12:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

- Pointer outerers!

Better than isolationists hiding under their beds.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-31 12:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

"At least 2 of them are Armenian, fighting on behalf of the Assad regime."

Assad was adamant that non Muslims not be persecuted. Personally, I think that this is core to the rebellion. You can't have a proper theocracy unless you can ------- those who are of a different religion.

#29 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-05-31 10:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

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