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David MacMillan: During my tenure as an active young-earth creationist, I never once heard other creationists accurately describe what evolutionary theory is or how it is supposed to work. Nor did I understand it myself. Creationists often seem familiar with a lot of scientific terminology, but their understanding is filled with gross misinformation. Thus, a host of misconceptions is believed and taught throughout creationist circles, making it almost impossible for actual evidence to really sink in. ... I will attempt to explain why creationist claims persist in the face of contrary evidence, even when individuals are otherwise well-educated. To do so, I'm going to go over the major areas where creationists get the science itself completely wrong.

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MacMillan is a former creationist blogger and writer who graduated from the University of North Alabama with a bachelor's of science in physics.

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Actually Anrea, evolution is the basis for liberalism and the antithesis of conservatism. Real liberals are constantly evolving while conservatives resist any change to the status quo and even believe the status quo is somehow more moral even though so many immoral practices have been ended by liberals who evolved.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2014-05-29 07:49 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 6

What, an appeal to survival of the fittest, Mackris? Liberals understand it just fine. It applies to the species, not merely the individual. I would say it's the modern libertarian righty mindset that fails to grasp it. They're like a bee that wants to survive without the hive, or a lone wolf that thinks it can hunt better than a whole pack to drive prey. We're a social animal, we evolve together, with greater strength in the many than the one.

#3 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-05-29 07:53 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 4

Danni, I completely disagree with that assessment. Surprised? LOL

Philosophically, I am conservative (true conservative, not the stupid kind). I see evolution as the conservative philosophy (using the true meaning of the word conservative). Since evolution is a true science, and i am philosophically a conservative, I don't want the truth changed to fit some localized or popular 'human/spiritual agenda'.

I have worked my whole career in engineering and I know very few engineers, scientists, other technicians who are creationists. The ones that are creationists believe that they HAVE to believe in SCIENCE to do their job but the real world is the spiritual world. I don't see those people ever changing, because they NEED to believe that.

Also, I can't think of a single one who couldn't give a passable answer on what evolution is. I knew that when i was in middle school. One would have to be willfully ignorant not to have learned a simple understanding of species evolution.

I can't say if the overall philosophy of 'God creating the universe' is correct or not, and I don't care if it's true or not, but I know this much - The so-called 'Creationists' are completely wrong about everything. Too bad, they have decided to claim, incorrectly, that they are conservative.

#4 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-05-29 08:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

#3 | Posted by zeropointnrg

Oh, so now, the liberatarians don't understand evolution either, huh? You folks are too much. Please go sit with the TP-ers until you can act right.

#5 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-05-29 08:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I see evolution as the conservative philosophy (using the true meaning of the word conservative)."

Conservatism is resistant to change, to evolution, even a denial of evolution. Liberalism embraces change and evolution.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2014-05-29 08:18 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Liberalism embraces change and evolution.

Well, as long as it's a change the liberals approve of though, right danni?

Conservatives are the same. They embrace change as long as they approve of it

#7 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-29 08:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

Actually Anrea, evolution is the basis for liberalism and the antithesis of conservatism. Real liberals are constantly evolving while conservatives resist any change to the status quo and even believe the status quo is somehow more moral even though so many immoral practices have been ended by liberals who evolved
#2 | POSTED BY DANNI

You obviously don't understand evolution, evolution prunes and weeds out, it doesn't support every idea with equal measure. Free Markets are evolutionary by definition, destructive, letting people fend for themselves is evolutionary, weeding out those that can't adapt.

Just because you have a new idea on saving a man doesn't mean you embody evolution, it means you are supporting a non functioning member of society.

Thats the irony of those liberals that beatup on the religious, both want a society that takes care of their fellow man without concern for the future, that is not supporting evolution, its a statis.


Conservatism is resistant to change, to evolution, even a denial of evolution. Liberalism embraces change and evolution.
#6 | POSTED BY DANNI

Conservatism isn't about resistance to change, its about the free market. Bigger government is resistant to change, how old and dysfunctional is the government, its calcified.

liberal ideas, flowed from religious movements and ideas of the likes of Woodrow Wilson.

The larger the government the less ability the country has to adapt.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-05-29 04:09 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Interesting article. How do we access the expanded complete article and not just the first section?

#9 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-05-29 04:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

It applies to the species, not merely the individual. I would say it's the modern libertarian righty mindset that fails to grasp it. They're like a bee that wants to survive without the hive, or a lone wolf that thinks it can hunt better than a whole pack to drive prey. We're a social animal, we evolve together, with greater strength in the many than the one.

#3 | POSTED BY ZEROPOINTNRG

No we didn't evolve all together, only in the last 100 years has there been a support structure at the national level. Do a little history, we may be social but we will kill a man just the same.

In the past, intelligence was evolutionary, those that weren't intelligent genes were put to the dustbin of history.

Today the unintelligent are proliferating, and the intelligent aren't why is that, Liberal policies of supporting those that cannot support a child in the given environment.

At no other time in human history has an individual supported those he didn't know.

#10 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-05-29 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

It doesn't matter whether you believe in evolution or not. It is whether evolution believed in you. Did evolution give you a defective brain or one that actually works.

The problem as I see it is that if you deny evolution you are denying basic concept of science itself. As this guy points out most people who deny that evolution is occurring and will continue to occur do so because of an "understanding filled with gross misinformation".

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-29 04:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Free Markets are evolutionary by definition, destructive, letting people fend for themselves is evolutionary, weeding out those that can't adapt.

Exactly. Free markets, when truly free, mimic the natural world. To create you often must destroy.

That is Earth is here, because other suns and solar systems were created, then destroyed.

The only reasons mammals evolved to dominate the food chain is because the dinosaurs were destroyed.

#12 | Posted by danv at 2014-05-29 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

#10 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-05-29 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

You missed the point entirely. Human beings evolved to be social animals that rely on the group for survival. Any animal that lives in groups will fight and kill other animals from the same species - particularly those from other groups but not always. Individuals still rely on their particular group for survival. We are no different.

Without cooperation, we'd be an evolutionary dead end: Slow moving, dull senses, weak for our size, etc. We only survived through cooperation.

Much of our brain is devoted to communication and we developed the power of speech for a reason.

The only thing that is different now is that the level of cooperation has increased in scale to such a point where now our groups include people we may have never met.

#13 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-29 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

How do we access the expanded complete article and not just the first section? #9 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-05-29 04:14 PM |

FTA: I will address each of these topics in the coming posts.
Like with evolution, you may have to wait a bit ...

#14 | Posted by censored at 2014-05-29 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Conservatism isn't about resistance to change, its about the free market.

There is no such thing as a "free market".

It is a political concept that does not exist.

Can you define what a "free market" looks like?

Before you attempt to do that answer this question:

Should we ban the employment of children under the age of 9?

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-29 04:42 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3


Young earth creationism is a vast minority view in Christianity, a veritable blip on the screen that represents some old traditions that became "fact" to some fundies.

Much like, otoh, the Flat Earth Myth that many non-Christians propagate.

"According to Stephen Jay Gould, "there never was a period of 'flat earth darkness' among scholars (regardless of how the public at large may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the Earth's roundness as an established fact of cosmology."[3]

Historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers point out that "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference".[4]

Historian Jeffrey Burton Russell says the flat-earth error flourished most between 1870 and 1920, and had to do with the ideological setting created by struggles over evolution.[5]

Russell claims "with extraordinary [sic] few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat", and credits histories by John William Draper, Andrew Dickson White, and Washington Irving for popularizing the flat-earth myth.[6]"

en.wikipedia.org

But people of all sorts do like their myths... in the Joseph Campbell definition of myth as, "a lie that hides a deeper truth."

As for the OT, they believed that the earth was round and hung in space on "nothing", and that man and civilization had risen and fell several times before the account in Genesis described the creation of a being different than previous earthly dwellers.

ADM, which in it's first use is not man or mankind, but is a new kind of man, "reddish and fair".

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-29 04:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Big Bang is a Big Lie....

#17 | Posted by takitez at 2014-05-29 05:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Conservatism is resistant to change, to evolution, even a denial of evolution."

Conservatism is the resistance to accept new ideas just because they are new. That things which have been tried and shown to work are preferable.

However, libertarian and many espoused, though often not followed, conservative economic principles believe in an unregulated economy where bad businesses are allowed to fail and efficient businesses succeed; Where people have to be responsible for their own success or failure. This is very much in tune with the idea of natural selection. States having their own laws and less top-heavy control allows for more testing of ideas, and less penalty for failure.

As I was saying above, most of those who call themselves Conservatives are not interested actually freedoms, but on something they view as a sort of concept of the past. They are both suspicious of government and want the government legislate that people live like they think the used to, or ought to. One can't have it both ways

Likewise, modern "liberal" theories are not about freedom, but about regulation, social control, and social justice. These are less about freedom and more about a planned and controlled economy, and therefore society. These are the antithesis of natural selection. Inefficient and poor ideas can easily be given weight because they are dogmas of the mob. It tries to turn natural selection into conscious selection, which may sound scientific, but based more on a concept of life of a few and a mob mentality than it is on what actually works. Planned economies that crash can lead to totalitarianism.

#18 | Posted by LEgregius at 2014-05-29 05:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Actually Anrea, evolution is the basis for liberalism and the antithesis of conservatism. Real liberals are constantly evolving while conservatives resist any change to the status quo and even believe the status quo is somehow more moral even though so many immoral practices have been ended by liberals who evolved.
#2 | Posted by danni

Hmmmmm... This is completely full of crap. The one-word definition of evolution is "adaptation". Look it up. Conservatives adapt. They instinctively know how to. Liberals want others to change and to adapt to their needs and wants. See the difference? Liberals don't change, they die out or become Conservative and other Liberals fill the void.

#19 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-05-29 06:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Big Bang is a Big Lie....

#17 | Posted by takitez

The "Big Bang" is a theory. One of several that attempt to explain how the Universe began based on physical laws.

lets see how detached from reality you really are...

So do you think a) the Earth was created fully formed out of nothing in one day and b) the entire Universe began at the same moment that the Earth was formed?

Hint: We can now literally "see" 15 billion years into the past and can actually see the life cycle of stars and planets as they are being born and die.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-29 08:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

No we didn't evolve all together, only in the last 100 years has there been a support structure at the national level.
In the past, intelligence was evolutionary, those that weren't intelligent genes were put to the dustbin of history.
Today the unintelligent are proliferating, and the intelligent aren't why is that, Liberal policies of supporting those that cannot support a child in the given environment.
At no other time in human history has an individual supported those he didn't know.

#10 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Your grasp of history and social science is so pathetic that it annoys me.

#21 | Posted by Sycophant at 2014-05-29 10:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Liberals don't understand Evolution either.....

If they did, they wouldn't be Liberals

#1 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Evolution is LETTING GO of things that haven't worked. Conservatives are TERRIBLE at that. McCain is furous we're leaving the mideast. The entire party still thinks trickle down economics are gonna start working down any day... ignoring 30 years of evidence.

Hell it's in the name -CONSERVATIVE - conserving the status quo.
vs PROGRESSIVE - changing things in order to make progress.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-29 11:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Much like, otoh, the Flat Earth Myth that many non-Christians propagate." #16 | Posted by Corky

Then why does scripture say

Then the devil took him up to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence, (Matthew 4:8 NAB)

You [God] fixed the earth on its foundation, never to be moved. (Psalm 104:5 NAB)

Isaiah 11:12 "And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."

Revelation 7:1 "And after these things I saw four angels standing on four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree."

#23 | Posted by soulfly at 2014-05-29 11:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Timothy 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

C'mon corky. You believe this is the word of god?

#24 | Posted by soulfly at 2014-05-30 12:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

#13 | POSTED BY SULLY AT 2014-05-29 04:34 PM | FLAG:

Sully got what I was saying far better, Mackris. Yes, our horizons and population have broadened, but we never evolved to be lone islands. We evolved in groups, taking care of and raising our young, learning from our elders. Babies die in isolation, even with all nutritional and environmental needs met. Full grown adults develop psychosis in solitary. Yet the Randian ideal - not taken by all conservatives, but certainly espoused by a great deal of the modern "libertarian" (propertarian) groups, would have us believe that only independence is perfection. Banishment was once all but a death sentence.

The liberal urge to focus on society is just the natural extension of that. The safety net is both empathy for your fellow man and insurance if something goes wrong in your future - based on the belief that the many are stronger then the one. And that, just like the bee hive and wolf pack I alluded to earlier, are most definitely reflections of the evolutionary success of our own and other groups.

Primates do have a pecking order, and strength is always a plus, but only within the context of the group. And to think liberals are weak denies the quite common urge of the strong to protect the weak.

#25 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-05-30 12:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

Evolution on a Macro scale is --------. Most honest evolutionists have already admitted so and I have post hundreds of quotations from many of these world class scientist who state exactly that.

Not one single fossil has ever been discovered of a true transitional species in the history of this world and never will be. Darwin said it himself and it continues to be true today.

Every time a part of the evolutionary theory is proven to be untrue those who believe by faith in evolution just change their twisted notions to make the new paradigm fit their beliefs. Case in point the very popular notions that dinosaurs evolved into birds. Proven untrue by two University of Oregon researchers. Its amazing how many ignorant evolutionists who still believe this because they just don't keep up with current science.

Get back to me when any of you can tell me why Species claimed to be as old as 350 million years like the starfish, gar, or horseshoe crab have not evolved one damn bit. This is proven by fossil evidence. Next, tell me how the first living organism could breathe, eat, burn energy, reproduce, and eliminate waste without a creator to set in motion the exact sequence by which this happens.

As usual most evolutionary believers don't do any critical thinking. Thus most are democrats. How else can one still believe anything Barack obama says after 5 years of the horse manure he has spread.

#26 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-05-30 04:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

#23

You haven't one clue.

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
Isaiah 40:22 (NKJV)

He drew a circular horizon on the face of the waters,
At the boundary of light and darkness.
Job 26:10 (NKJV)

The ancient Hebrew word for circle and round is the same word.

"the four corners of the earth."

The word translated "corners," as in the phrase above, is the Hebrew word, KANAPH. Kanaph is translated in a variety of ways. However, it generally means extremity.

It is translated "borders" in Numbers 15:38. In Ezekiel 7:2 it is translated "four corners" and again in Isaiah 11:12 "four corners." Job 37:3 and 38:13 as "ends."

The Greek equivalent in Revelation 7:1 is gonia. The Greek meaning is perhaps more closely related to our modern divisions known as quadrants. Gonia literally means angles, or divisions. It is customary to divide a map into quadrants as shown by the four directions.

As even common sense might predict, the "4 corners" refers to the 4 directions.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-30 12:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

"As usual most evolutioscripture eevers don't do any critical thinking..... "

And christians do "critical thinking"? LOL

So whats the "truth" MCMLCXX.
God did it? look a the scriptue the lies are there to be read. The bibles enemy is itself.

#28 | Posted by soulfly at 2014-05-30 01:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Corky, you do know a circle is not sphere?

#29 | Posted by soulfly at 2014-05-30 01:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

"As even common sense might predict, the "4 corners" refers to the 4 directions."

Your whole believe system is based on what "might" be and "could" mean and not what the actual scripture says, Why do you think there are so many sects of Christians? Dont like catholic doctrine become a morman. Dont like Baptist become a catholic. There is no truth when your interpretation and bias defines the truth. More lies from the "faithful". You may say i just have a differnt "faith" but my believes do not include talking donkeys, water to wine, prophecy, virgin births, etc. Which you know is BS. A day is a day the same as has always been and a corner is a corner as its always been defined.

#31 | Posted by soulfly at 2014-05-30 01:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

SF, you do know that the ancient Hebrew word circle, round, or sphere would be the same?

How convenient. If true. Who told you that? A christian? You've already proven to be a myth believer and a liar.

#32 | Posted by soulfly at 2014-05-30 01:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

"A day is a day the same as has always been and a corner is a corner as its always been defined."

I think you are misunderstanding what was said.

You are translating between different languages, one of them ancient. There is often no direct 1 to 1 translation between languages even if both are modern and known. You have to account for that, the idea that you can apply a legalistic approach to a translation is fallacy. Note that there are dozens of translations into English and many many more in other languages. They do not all say the same thing because it is all a bit of interpretation, that is translation.

#33 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-05-30 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

#31

lol, your posts are self retorting and should be embarrassing to you.

#32

Studying the original languages, with a Stanford grad, not a Bob Jones grad, helps to understand what is being said in the texts.

Anything I said here can be substantiated with a Google search, however.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-30 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

"SF, you do know that the ancient Hebrew word circle, round, or sphere would be the same?"

How convenient. If true. Who told you that? A christian? You've already proven to be a myth believer and a liar.

#32 | POSTED BY SOULFLY

I've heard this "in Hebrew it means . . ." argument a lot from fundies. One told me that "grape juice" and "wine" are the same thing in order to make a point

#35 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-30 01:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Conservatism isn't about resistance to change, its about the free market.
#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris"

That is hilariously naive and inaccurate.

#36 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2014-05-30 02:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

You are translating between different languages, one of them ancient. There is often no direct 1 to 1 translation between languages even if both are modern and known.

Not to mention that the English bible has been translated serially from a string of languages. From the first translation, it has already lost something and doesn't mean the same as the original. But to translate it from a second language to a third and a third to a fourth language, who can tell what the original meaning was.

Try this. Go to google translate and type a sentence. Translate it into Spanish. Now translate it from Spanish into Chinese. Then Chinese to Nebrew and Hebrew back into English. Chances are good the result looks very little like the original sentence. Yes, yes, yes, I know that googletranslate is far from a perfect interpeter, but the premise is still there. You can't translate languages like that and remain true to the original. It's like making a xerox copy of something and keep copying the next generation copy. Each gets worse and worse until it is unrecognizable.

#37 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-30 02:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Evolution on a Macro scale is --------.

#26 | Posted by mcmlcxx

Then why do we share DNA with flatworms?

You are the prime examples of the fundemental flaw with the republican party. You think no one can be smarter than you, so if YOU can't understand how a flatworm would evolve into humans, then NO ONE can. If YOU can't understand how humans could the climate, then NO ONE can and its therefore a myth, right?

But the truth is, this planet is filled with people WAY smarter than you, and those people have discovered that all life likely evolved from the same place.

Tell us, what are your credentials that we should listen to you about evolution instead of the people who study it professionally?

#38 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-30 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

*could affect the climate

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-30 02:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

#38 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Isn't that the case with most "conservative" positions on science and economics? They need a context that, unlike science and mathematics, can be manipulated to arrive at a pre-conceived conclusion that fits their ideology.

#40 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-05-30 02:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Not to mention that the English bible has been translated serially from a string of languages. From the first translation, it has already lost something and doesn't mean the same as the original. But to translate it from a second language to a third and a third to a fourth language, who can tell what the original meaning was."

That is the point.
If anyone tries to use english or another translation aside from the defunct dialects and languages as the original and then dissect it as absolute they are insane. Even our constitution's intent is debated and we have the original.

That is why there are so many that have dedicated their lives to be a biblical scholar. Atheists and theists alike are drawn to the historical aspect of it. Some of the most fun i have had in lecture is from non-religious scholars looking at it from a purely historical perspective. But you will not find any of them assuming that one translation that was provided.

#41 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-05-30 03:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

My daughter was attending college when "Jurassic Park" came out. She went to see it with some friends. After the show they were talking about how good the movie was. One girl said she kept thinking to herself, "How did they get that dinosaur to do that?" God's special effects are much better than Steven Spielberg's.

#42 | Posted by jdmeth at 2014-05-30 08:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Speaksosoftly wrote,

"Then why do we share DNA with flatworms?"

For the same reason we share genes and DNA with all living animals. God made us using the same building blocks.

Now answer this. How can a newly living organism. One that never existed have the organization to consume energy, expel waste, intake oxygen use it to carry out functions and convert it to carbon dioxide, and reproduce itself all from the moment it sprang into existence?

If you can answer that question with science then you might convince me of evolution. But we both know you can't and neither can anyone else on this earth.

The truth is I don't need the Bible to tell me life didn't come into being without a creator science does that all by itself. Macro evolution will never be proven. But more importantly abiogenesis could not happen without God. If you believe it can then lay out your ideas here for ridicule.

#43 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-05-31 02:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

One that never existed have the organization to consume energy, expel waste, intake oxygen use it to carry out functions and convert it to carbon dioxide, and reproduce itself all from the moment it sprang into existence?

Life's genesis didn't happen that way.

There are a lot of theories and books written about the subject. There are also a lot of internet links that explain plausible theories.

What I want to know (and I can't find anywhere on the internet) is how an all knowing, all powerful, omniscient and omnipotent entity like God suddenly popped into existence. It seems to me that if something like a god can suddenly exist out of nothingness, that something far, far less complex like simple molecular life can organize itself in a tidal pool.

#44 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-31 02:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Is life just a game where we make up the rules
While we're searching for something to say?
Or are we just simply spiraling coils
Of self-replicating DNA?

MP

#45 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-31 02:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

For the same reason we share genes and DNA with all living animals. God made us using the same building blocks.

#43 | Posted by mcmlcxx

That's the same cop-out that has been used since the dawn of man to explain things that we don't understand. Later, scientists discover the real explanations and the "because god did it" people look silly.

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-31 03:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Actually Speaksoftly many great scientist admit their is no evidence to support Macro evolution. I have posted many quotes in the past and people like you ignore them because it would shake your faith in the bad science theory of evolution.

#47 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-06-01 04:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

Goatman wrote,

"What I want to know (and I can't find anywhere on the internet) is how an all knowing, all powerful, omniscient and omnipotent entity like God suddenly popped into existence."

Maybe you should try prayer Goatman.

#48 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-06-01 04:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe you should try prayer Goatman.

I did. It didn't work. I'm still unaware of how god could suddenly pop into existence.

#49 | Posted by goatman at 2014-06-01 05:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

#49 | Posted by goatman
"I did. It didn't work."

You did it wrong. Just keep pressing zero and eventually you'll get to talk to a person.

#50 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-06-01 10:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

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