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Sunday, May 25, 2014

The New York Times has a profile Sunday that's flattering of former Florida governor and possible Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush. Michael Barbaro writes, "As Bush, 61, weighs whether to seek the Republican presidential nomination in 2016, he is dogged by fears of voter exhaustion with a family name indelibly linked to his older brother, a self-assured Texan who prized instinct over expertise and once acknowledged a lack of interest in slogging through long books. But in ways big and small, deliberate or subconscious, the younger Bush seems to have defined himself as the anti-George W. Bush: an intellectual in search of new ideas, a serial consulter of outsiders who relishes animated debate and a probing manager who eagerly burrows into the bureaucratic details."

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Uhuh and how much did the GOP pay to have them run that story?

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-25 08:22 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

"The questions he grapples with most frequently, and enthusiastically, revolve around improving the effectiveness of government in areas like education, immigration and criminal justice. It is a message unlikely to electrify Tea Party and libertarian wings of his party that are openly hostile to the very idea of government."

Interesting point.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-05-25 08:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

It is a message unlikely to electrify Tea Party and libertarian wings of his party that are openly hostile to the very idea of government."

Funny, as a libertarian, criminal justice reform is the most important issue for this single issue voter. Give me a candidate that's legitimately looking to reform the system, and he's got my vote. Currently, that seems to be Rand Paul. As disappointing as that may seem, he's acknowledging and pointing out the exact issues we in the academic fields (criminology to be specific) are hoping politicians will address in the near future.

#3 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-05-25 08:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Times, as will a lot of the media, is trying to turn the race into a cash cow. They can hear the cash registers already.

Jeb isn't quite the dull plowboy that GW is, but he's a REAL Neocon, not a FAKE Neocon that some people like to pretend a moderate like Clinton is.

He would also happily let a GOP Congress cut as many school lunch programs et al as it takes to fund any tax cuts their little hearts desire.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-25 08:50 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

All the prescotts are snakes.

Every last one of them.

#5 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-05-25 09:05 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Wait a minute... Isn't Marvin guilty as well?

whatreallyhappened.com

He is the real brains behind this cartel.

#6 | Posted by coyote at 2014-05-25 09:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

As aco-signer of PNAC's "let's invade Iraq to get its oil" letter Jebya should be too ashamed to run for Prez. Then again, his family has a history of being remarkably unashamed of their scumbag actions.

#7 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-05-25 09:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

EVERY LAST ONE.

#8 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-05-25 09:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

NORTHGUY is correct. JEB is a member (and signed off on) PNAC (Project for a New American Century, a neo-con think tank founded by Bill Kristol and Dick Cheney) whose published mission statement in 1997 was "World Domination by Military Force."

They made no secret of their plan to use the world's oil resources to control every facet of the world's economy. Cheney also advocated for a Unitary Executive i.e. a one party rule forever. Prominent members of PNAC were placed in strategic position in the Bush administration to move their goals forward at the first opportunity. PNAC openly admitted in their documents that they would probably need a "Pearl Harbor like" event to motivate the populace.

Some people say PNAC is dead. Some say it's just sitting on a shelf waiting to be dusted off by the next neo-con who comes to office.

JEB has a lot more shame to overcome than his family name.

#9 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 01:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'll belabor this point one more time.

I was watching Bill Kristol being interviewed on BBC. He was asked point blank "Why did PNAC fail?"

Kristol was Joe Cool with his answer, "We just needed someone a little smarter."

Exit George, enter JEB. Do ya' think?

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 01:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'll belabor this point one more time.

I was watching Bill Kristol being interviewed on BBC. He was asked point blank "Why did PNAC fail?"

Kristol was Joe Cool with his answer, "We just needed someone a little smarter."

Exit George, enter JEB. Do ya' think?

#11 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 01:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'll belabor this point one more time.

I was watching Bill Kristol being interviewed on BBC. He was asked point blank "Why did PNAC fail?"

Kristol was Joe Cool with his answer, "We just needed someone a little smarter."

Exit George, enter JEB. Do ya' think?

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 01:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

sorry for the double post. It's not the computer, it's me.

#13 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 01:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Triple post, love.

#14 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-26 01:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

GOATMAN

Maybe it is the computer. Or probably IE. For a while it was so slow I thought I'd been hacked by AOL.

Must learn patience . . . must learn patience . . . must learn patience.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 01:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

I just simultaneously double posted over on the Nooner. Did the earth move for you too, Twin?

Wow!

#16 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-05-26 01:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

probably IE

#15 | Posted by Twinpac

Your first problem was using IE. Cleanse thyself!

#17 | Posted by mariosanchez at 2014-05-26 02:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

I saw that 'NOTCH.

My computer went black screen for about 3 seconds. Was that you, you dirty dog?

#18 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 02:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

MARIO

I've tried other browsers and they all drove me nuts. I guess I'm stuck.

#19 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 02:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hasn't grandpa Prescott's spawn done enough damage to this country already? Enough with the Bush crime family!

#20 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2014-05-26 03:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Enough with the Bush crime family!

You get a vote just like everyone else!

#21 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-26 03:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

I read an insider report by "they" and "they" said Adelson won't give JEB the money unless he agrees to put Mitt in the VP spot.

That DOES NOT sound like a winning strategy. But who am I to question a billionaire?

#22 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 03:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

But who am I to question a billionaire?

#22 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 03:22 AM | Reply

Indeed. The entire Republican Party as well as all the Libertarians know that you cannot possibly be smarter than a billionaire.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2014-05-26 08:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

We need to get away from families becomming dominant in us politics. That goes all the way from city government to the US government. We have had enough kennedy, bush, clinton, romney, etc.

#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-05-26 08:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

ZED

It's a bit of a conundrum for JEB. Adelson wants guarantees that he'll get the legislation he wants and JEB has to determine if he can raise enough money on his own to see him through the primary and the general.

JEB has the opportunity to roll over for Adelson but at the cost of only being a part-time president, legislatively speaking. For some reason, JEB doesn't strike me as a roll over type his guy. The bottom line is all about the money of course.

No "Bush" has ever been bothered by morality so I don't think that's the hold up of JEBs decision ~ aside from the fact that nobody wants to jump in too early. We'll know when the bean counters finish their tally.

Right now JEB is all the GOP has and even that candidacy is fraught with land mines. I'm all for putting JEB on the ticket. It's the bottom half that bothers me.

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 08:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's the bottom half that bothers me.

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 08:53 AMFlag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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If Mitt were my Vice President, I'd make sure someone tasted my food.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2014-05-26 08:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

Excellent point, ZED And probably not far off the mark. LOL

#27 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 09:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Jeb is not dyslexic, like his brother. Also unlike his brother, Jeb is a signature to the Project for a New American Century, that believes our prosperity depends on economic and military global domination. There is zero evidence military spending is as good for our economy as investment in our our own domestic infrastructure. All these megalomaniacs are accomplishing are building more hate which breeds more terrorism which grows our police State and reduces our quality of life. Jeb is part of a powerful criminal class.

#28 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-05-26 09:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I read an insider report by "they" and "they" said Adelson won't give JEB the money unless he agrees to put Mitt in the VP spot."

I do not believe Mitt would ever accept the VP slot, his ego couldn't take second place and the White Horse profecy couldn't be fulfilled that way.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2014-05-26 10:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

Before we go much further with this guy, riddle me this:
-does Jeb look into people's souls?
-Does he have a drinking problem?
-Can he paint by numbers better than an eight year old?

#30 | Posted by catdog at 2014-05-26 10:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

DANNI

Mitt (or rather Adelson) tried the direct approach and that didn't work.

The VP slot is the next best way in for a person who is promised the ultimate power at the end of the road.

Keep in mind that my source was unnamed political speculators who were probably just making wild guesses. Amusing but not necessarily credible.

I'm taking an "I'll believe it when I see it" attitude on this one.

#31 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-26 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

You know who is more unlike George W Bush than Jeb Bush?

Anyone who didn't come from the same horrible family.

#32 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-26 11:57 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

If elected President, Jeb Bush would be triple the disaster his brother George was while in office.

Don't ever forget -- Jeb Bush was one of the original signatures to PNAC ("Project for a New American Century") the document wherein he and Cheney and the other Neocon war mongers set out in writing their special plan for world domination.

You want guaranteed non-stop wars? Vote for Jeb.

#33 | Posted by CalifChris at 2014-05-26 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

#28 | Posted by nutcase

Hadn't read your post before putting up my #33. Glad to see you're up on Jeb Bush being one of the main Neocon leaders and promotors of war. So many people are unaware of that fact.

#34 | Posted by CalifChris at 2014-05-26 12:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

I have posted this link several times over the last few years but never was it more important to read than it is now with Jeb Bush's sights set on the Oval Office.

I suppose you could call it "PNAC For Dummies" as it's a simplistic and excellent article written back in 2003 (just as we were going into Iraq) warning of exactly who these Neocons are are and what they're all about. It's imperative you become educated as to their ultimate goals.

"A PNAC Primer"
.

#35 | Posted by CalifChris at 2014-05-26 12:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let's see, the "liberal" paper that helped sell the iraq war is now saying that Jeb, who was raised by the same corporate whores as dubya in the same entitled spoiled environment as dubya with the same values as dubya somehow turned out ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from dubya.

It doesn't matter if he's SMARTER than dubya. Nearly everyone is. Being smart doesn't make you a good person or good leader. Romney was smart too, but he still thought the best way to govern was to take care of the rich first, and the rest of us are just pains in the ass to be lied to and shoved aside.

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-26 02:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

JEB calls JEB the Anti-George W.

I don't blame him. That's the platform I'd run on, too.

But he's still a neo-con just like every member of his family before him. They're war mongers and oil profiteers. They use the military like expendable pawns on a Chessboard. They and their business associates are in the oil business. Iran has oil. World domination by military force is their rally cry (PNAC), they're lock-step with Israel on war with Iran. Russia will side with Iran. Syria will side with Iran. We'll be at war with Iran, Russia and Syria. They build unsteady coalitions with time limits. The U.S. carries the brunt of the debt. They care nothing about deficits. They care nothing about domestic safety nets, the VA, Social Security, Medicare, health insurance, the middle class, the poor, the elderly or the wounded. They lie to the people, Congress and the United Nations. They alter NSA documents. They fire high ranking generals at the Pentagon who dare speak the truth. They throw up false flags. They use the media to drive home their lies. They leave a wake of destruction everywhere they go.

That's your JEB Bush ~ the quintessential neo-con.

#37 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-27 07:01 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Didn't old Jeb sign on PNAC? That is enough to ignore him.

Project for the New American Century
Signatories to Statement of Principles[edit]

John Ellis "Jeb" Bush[5]

#38 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-27 10:24 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

As aco-signer of PNAC's "let's invade Iraq to get its oil" letter Jebya should be too ashamed to run for Prez. Then again, his family has a history of being remarkably unashamed of their scumbag actions.

#7 | POSTED BY NORTHGUY3 AT 2014-05-25 09:55 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You call it scumbag, they call it "commanderguy".

www.youtube.com

#39 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-27 10:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

I thought they called it decider-er--er.

#40 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-27 01:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

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