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Wednesday, May 21, 2014

Pope Francis made the religious case for tackling climate change on Wednesday, calling on his fellow Christians to become "Custodians of Creation" and issuing a dire warning about the potentially catastrophic effects of global climate change. Speaking to a massive crowd in Rome, the first Argentinian pope delivered a short address in which he argued that respect for the "beauty of nature and the grandeur of the cosmos" is a Christian value, noting that failure to care for the planet risks apocalyptic consequences. "Safeguard Creation," he said. "Because if we destroy Creation, Creation will destroy us! Never forget this!"

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"Creation is not a property, which we can rule over at will; or, even less, is the property of only a few: Creation is a gift, it is a wonderful gift that God has given us, so that we care for it and we use it for the benefit of all, always with great respect and gratitude," Francis said.

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Francis is in danger of becoming a PINO.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-21 06:11 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 3

Francis is in danger of becoming a PINO.
#1 | POSTED BY CORKY

Good one! LOL

#2 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-05-21 06:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Now would that be pronounced Pine-O?

#3 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-05-21 06:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm trying to decide which guy from the end of Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark will most accurately reflect Diablo's demise when he reads this.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2014-05-21 06:25 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

www.youtube.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-21 06:27 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

wow that was perfect Corky.

I needed that..thanks!

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-21 06:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would think this would give the fossil fuel chorus some problems. But I guess denial covers it. They claim burning coal is good for the environment so no harm done. Sigh.

#7 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2014-05-21 06:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

I think he has a good point. We all need to become better custodians of the earth and all the life on it.

Anyone that doesn't think so is in danger of becoming a "HINO" (Human...)

#8 | Posted by path at 2014-05-21 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

and RSTyB, you can pronounce that "Hine-Oh" ;-)

#9 | Posted by path at 2014-05-21 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

The article never quoted the pope as saying anything specifically about climate change, interesting.

I would think this would give the fossil fuel chorus some problems. But I guess denial covers it. They claim burning coal is good for the environment so no harm done. Sigh.
#7 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2014-05-21 06:42 PM | Reply | Flag

No one claims that burning coal is good for the environment (at least n one with half a brain), do you regularly make thing up to justify your belief.

If you really are so against fossil fuels, please feel free to stop using the internet. What do you think powers it and the manufacturing needed to make it work, as well all the science and engineering behind it.

#10 | Posted by danv at 2014-05-21 06:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

I have nothing to contribute other than a smile at our fortune to have this Pope.

#11 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-21 06:56 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Agree TOR. Makes you think about Pope Benedict XVI's statement that he stepped down by God's wish. We do have a better Pope.

#12 | Posted by path at 2014-05-21 07:04 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Frankie, I think God wants you to do something about the child molesters.

#13 | Posted by JROD at 2014-05-21 07:12 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"Makes you think about Pope Benedict XVI's statement that he stepped down by God's wish. We do have a better Pope."

When Benedict dies I plan to remember him as the author of a book I read and as the guy who has the wisdom and courage to step down from office.

Did he really claim God told him to retire?

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-21 07:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

he has started to address that JRod, read the news

#15 | Posted by path at 2014-05-21 07:21 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#14: Yes TOR, "Ex-pope Benedict says God told him to resign during 'mystical experience" Link: www.theguardian.com

#16 | Posted by path at 2014-05-21 07:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

-The article never quoted the pope as saying anything specifically about climate change, interesting.

"The pope's comments come on the heels of a five-day summit on sustainability convened at the Vatican earlier this month. The summit, entitled "Sustainable Humanity, Sustainable Nature, Our Responsibility," drew together microbiologists, legal scholars, economists, philosophers, astronomers, and other experts to discuss ways for the Catholic church to address a range issues caused by climate change.

In a joint statement published after the close of the conference, participants echoed Francis' belief that environmental justice and economic justice are inextricably linked.

"Human action which is not respectful of nature becomes a boomerang for human beings that creates inequality and extends what Pope Francis has termed ‘the globalization of indifference' and the ‘economy of exclusion' (Evangelii Gaudium), which themselves endanger solidarity with present and future generations," the statement read."

Context. Not a 4 letter word.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-21 07:36 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

If God created the Earth then, of course, he wouldn't what us to wreck his Creation.

Unless God was maybe a redneck or something and likes to watch things blow up when he is drunk.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-21 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

what=want...doh

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-21 08:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you really are so against fossil fuels, please feel free to stop using the internet. What do you think powers it and the manufacturing needed to make it work, as well all the science and engineering behind it.

#10 | Posted by danv

[...] moronic 4th grade level argument [...] You realize you can BOTH use the available power source AND campaign to quickly and widely develop cleaner alternatives, right?

How else are you supposed to power the internet? The oil whores have blocked all efforts to develop alternate sources for decades. You think people who want cleaner energy should just sit in the dark and pout until it miraculously appears someday?

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-21 09:00 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 2

#20 FF or NW? decisions... decisions

always look for the funny...so FF for u!

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-21 09:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

The oil whores have blocked all efforts to develop alternate sources for decades.

???

Combined, the oil companies have put more into alternative energy source R&D than the federal government, speaksoftly. [...]

#22 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-21 10:31 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"If God created the Earth then, of course, he wouldn't what us to wreck his Creation."

In the Book of Mark Jesus specifically compares earth to a vast mansion and God as the owner.

Human's are described as the property's caretakers.

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-21 10:38 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

But, Rcade, you are defending Creationist science?

"The pope centered his environmentalist theology around the biblical creation story in the book of Genesis, where God is said to have created the world, declared it "good," and charged humanity with its care."

In any case, all of you should familiarize yourselves with a Pope's opinion, i.e. personal view, and an ex cathedra pronouncement.

#24 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-21 10:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Creationist science"

What a funny phrase.

Technically speaking most scientists throughout the ages Jews, Buddhists. Muslims, etc could be called that.

Yet it's usually meant to describe young earth creationists who consider themselves Christians, and usually used as a weapon to attack others who disagree with the user.

#25 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-21 11:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

As a "recovering" Catholic I really like Pope Frankie. If only he would allow women to be Priest and end the Church's foolish ban on birth control pills and condoms,

#26 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-05-21 11:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

If only he would allow women to be Priest and end the Church's foolish ban on birth control pills and condoms,

#26 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI

That'll never happen. Businesses need new customers and birth control makes less of them.

But here's a hint to followers of any faith - if your religion tells tells you to make as many babies as possible, it's really just a pyramid scheme.

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-21 11:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"ban on birth control pills and condoms"

Didn't that ban only start in the 1960's?

#29 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-22 01:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

#29 | POSTED BY TOR

Condom's have been banned since 1930 if I remember correctly.

#30 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-05-22 02:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

"never forget this"!!!!! Pope Franics when you die you are going to stand before God at the great white throne judgement and you know what HE is going to say to you. Depart from me I never knew you. Then he is going to throw you in the everlasting lake of fire forever. Try and change the climate in HELL!!!!!!

#31 | POSTED BY WRATHOFGOD

I think being the Pope he's got a better grasp of whether or not that gibberish is true than you.

BTW, I think the West Baptist Church is hiring.

#32 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-05-22 06:13 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#32

line 1 NW
line 2 FF

This new poster looks like a live wire.

#33 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-22 06:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

#31 | Posted by WRATHofGOD

The Pope can't even make it in? Well that leaves a very slim chance for the rest of us.

#34 | Posted by mariosanchez at 2014-05-22 06:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Pope can't even make it in? Well that leaves a very slim chance for the rest of us.

#34 | POSTED BY MARIOSANCHEZ

Dunno, at least this one rides on the other side of the bullet proof glass.

Hell I'm not even really all that religious (read not at all) and I have a lot of respect for the man. You usually only see the devotion in the lower ranks of anything, rarely do you see it from the top. From there it's usually politics as usual and the devotion shifts from believing the message to playing politics.

#35 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-05-22 07:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

#33 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Maybe, but I get the feeling every post will be similar so, I have reservations.

Then again, since it looks like he joined specifically to reply to this thread, I get the impression that he's a one and done poster.

#36 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-05-22 07:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

SPEAKSOFTLY

"But here's a hint to followers of any faith - if your religion tells tells you to make as many babies as possible, it's really just a pyramid scheme."

I always thought of it as sort of a self-serving hedge fund, financed by future tithers.

#37 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-22 08:12 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

31 | Posted by WRATHofGOD

I will take this as a joke, unless it is takitez new name in which case he actually believes this, but then again takeitez once told me I was going to go to hell because I was Catholic so in his case the Pope could not win no matter what he says or does

#38 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-05-22 08:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well that leaves a very slim chance for the rest of us.

#34 | POSTED BY MARIOSANCHEZ AT 2014-05-22 06:25 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Well so long as you embrace capitalism, destroying the environment and income inequality, white Jesus will let you in.

#39 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-22 08:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder how Rush will react to this development?

www.youtube.com

#40 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-22 08:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Perhaps Global Warming is actually the Earth turning into a Hell of our own making. Our own greed, sloth, gluttony and disregard for other species finally creating our specie's demise.

#44 | Posted by danni at 2014-05-22 08:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hmmmm . . . a triple post. Must be a cheap AOL user.

#45 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-22 08:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

You wrap your hate around you and do not release it, in fact you have chosen a name that says that you are the wrath of God.
No to be forgiven you have to hate the Sin you committed, you base your faith on hate and you glorify hate.
leave Gods wrath to God.
Yes you should oppose evil but not to glorify in revenge, and you sure do not express anger only when you talk of God.
you only talk of Gods hate

#49 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-05-22 09:45 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

I'm not so sure, PUNCHY

This one comes on a little too strong to be Takeitez. Let's reserve judgment and see if he starts talking about a 666 chip.

My personal opinion is that a REAL messenger of God wouldn't be hiding out on an anonymous blog and his posts would be surrounded by a halo of glitttery light.

All I see here is just another blathering nutcase who has somehow stumbled his way into our fair home. If he hangs around I think I'll give him the ol' Retort Tidy-Bowl sani-flush cure-all.

Life's too short for this nonsense.

#50 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-22 09:48 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Maybe, but I get the feeling every post will be similar so, I have reservations.

Then again, since it looks like he joined specifically to reply to this thread, I get the impression that he's a one and done poster.

#36 | POSTED BY LOHOCLA

#41 | POSTED BY WRATHOFGOD

#42 | POSTED BY WRATHOFGOD

#43 | POSTED BY WRATHOFGOD

#48 | POSTED BY WRATHOFGOD

Hehe, at least I got half of my comment right.

#51 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-05-22 09:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hmmmm . . . a triple post. Must be a cheap AOL user.

#45 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

heh, woops, didn't read past the first one, didn't even notice three were the same.:P

#52 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-05-22 09:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ya I am a sinner but all my sins are washed away by the blood.

But now you're covered with blood.

If you're going to do some sin washing, how about some fresh water and Irish Spring?

#54 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-22 10:00 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

#50 | Posted by Twinpac

You might be right though when I brought up the name takiteze he did not deny that he was not,
but that certainly does not mean he is Takiteze

#55 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-05-22 10:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

You'd think the Pope would recommend we pray Global whatever away.

#56 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-05-22 10:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

PUNCHY

I see what you mean but . . .

If things get too stinky on this thread, we're running a Special on Sani-Flush this week.

Peeee-lonk!

#57 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-22 10:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's like sticking a dirty athletic sock in his megaphone. LOL

#58 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-22 10:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

This guy really belongs over on Rigel's Sorcery thread where he can do some good.

#59 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-22 10:25 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

#59 | Posted by Twinpac

That was suppose to be a funny flag but I accidentally flagged your comment Newsworthy

#60 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-05-22 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

No one claims that burning coal is good for the environment (at least n one with half a brain), do you regularly make thing up to justify your belief.
#10 | Posted by danv

I'd have to agree with the "half a brain" part. But coal boosters and climate change deniers do make the claim that burning coal is good for the environment. Carbon dioxide is plant food don't you know. For the most part they get laughed at just like some posters here.

thinkprogress.org

#61 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2014-05-22 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'll listen to what the pope says when he has the pedophiles prosecuted. Quits moving them from church to church and stops settling these cases out of court.

#62 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-05-22 10:58 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

PUNCHY

It shows up "Funny" on my screen. But thanks. I'm glad somebody around here shares my sense of humor. Wicked as it is.

#63 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-05-22 11:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why, instead of just wanting us to address global warming, wouldn't God just make the problem go away? I mean, we ARE the chosen people, right?

#64 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-05-22 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

If the coal country politicians really cared for coal miners and mine owners, they would be doing everything possible to direct new, non coal related businesses to the areas they represent. Provide incentives to coal miners to learn new trades and to mine owners to start new businesses. Ideally, the new businesses would hire the newly trained miners.

#65 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2014-05-22 11:26 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#64

lol, people who think God is their nanny.

#66 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-22 11:36 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Stated like so many New World Indians have declared, over and over, to no avail. Instead of listening we killed as many as we could.

#67 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-05-22 11:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

#65: Fed, that is always a good and positive idea but, in eastern Kentucky, coal mining jobs are all that provide a decent living for that area. they have tried many times to infuse large amounts of money to try and generate other sources of income other than minimum wage service jobs. Sadly, some places over there are like third world countries. Appalachia is a hard life and unless you actually see it, its hard to believe. And yes, I do place a lot of blame on poor education and failure to relocate to greener pastures. Those people have been there for many generations and just won't leave the mountains.

#68 | Posted by Daniel at 2014-05-22 11:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

Those people have been there for many generations and just won't leave the mountains.

That's unfortunate but we know how this story ends; the towns will dry up and eventually die as the need for coal continues to decrease. Young people without aging parents to care for will leave; leaving an older and older cadre of miners to work the mines. Eventually those aging miners will not be able to work and there will be nothing left but the skeleton of a once thriving community.

#69 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2014-05-22 01:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Combined, the oil companies have put more into alternative energy source R&D than the federal government...

Spoken like a good little Oil Whore.

Or put another way...

"The bottom line is that oil companies only invested a drop in the bucket [in alternatives] even in the 'heyday' of the early 1980s," says Douglas Cogan, vice president of investment firm MSCI ESG Research. "Most of the largest [oil company] investors have dropped out in recent years, following the precedent that Exxon set 30 years ago."

#70 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-22 03:12 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

"the oil companies have put more into alternative energy source R&D"

Then where is their alternative energy?

All I ever see are the occasional ads claiming they're working on alternative energy. It's been decades now and there's still nothing.

#71 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-05-22 04:09 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

All I ever see are the occasional ads claiming they're working on alternative energy.

But, you have to agree...those are some pretty awesome ads.

#72 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-22 04:47 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

But, Rcade, you are defending Creationist science?

Creationism is not science. Calling it science is jiggery–pokery. Any devout Christian who thinks that kind of foolishness is necessary to spread the Word is seriously misguided.

#73 | Posted by rcade at 2014-05-22 10:22 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Didn't that ban only start in the 1960's?

#29 | Posted by Tor at

No, Tor. In fact, the mainstream Protestant churches had been changing their rules on birth control and divorce in the 20th Century which pretty much forced the RC Church to take a more defined stand.
Paul VI's encyclical "On Human Life" did so, even though its main author was the future John Paul II.
We drew the line there, whatever the ability of the faithful to adhere.
That encyclical, BTW, made a cogent point: Allow that and abortion will come followed by the dissolution of marriage.
It did.
Have a nice read:

www.vatican.va

#75 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-23 12:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

The most prophetic passage:

"Who will blame a government which in its attempt to resolve the problems affecting an entire country resorts to the same measures as are regarded as lawful by married people in the solution of a particular family difficulty? Who will prevent public authorities from favoring those contraceptive methods which they consider more effective? Should they regard this as necessary, they may even impose their use on everyone. It could well happen, therefore, that when people, either individually or in family or social life, experience the inherent difficulties of the divine law and are determined to avoid them, they may give into the hands of public authorities the power to intervene in the most personal and intimate responsibility of husband and wife."

The above was sneered at by liberals and humanists...who then implemented the same.

#76 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-23 12:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

...experience the inherent difficulties of the divine law and are determined to avoid them...

The Free Exercise Clause admits adherents of divine law their prerogative but the Establish Clause precludes secular law imposing that divinity on the governed, Papal encyclical notwithstanding.

#77 | Posted by et_al at 2014-05-23 01:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

Almost works as a reply, Et Al, except he was talking about humanity as a whole, not just the USA.
Ever take the time to contemplate the one-child policy in China? Agree with it? Does it support women's rights?

#78 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-23 01:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

...he was talking about humanity as a whole, not just the USA.

Then why did you tie it to USA birth control policy?

Oh, I see, you want to compare moral equivalence. One forced the other voluntary.

#79 | Posted by et_al at 2014-05-23 02:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

God wants us to do something about climate change?

What's that bonehead been smoking for the last 10,000yrs?

.

#80 | Posted by Dave at 2014-05-23 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

#18 | Posted by donnerboy
"Unless God...likes to watch things blow up when he is drunk."

Allow me to introduce you to the Old Testament!

#81 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-05-23 03:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

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