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Tuesday, May 20, 2014

A power struggle is going on between the limited-government Tea Party movement and more traditional corporate-oriented Republicans. The nation's largest business-lobbying group hasn't said how much it will spend in the 2014 election, though it probably will exceed the $33.8 million in 2010. The aim is to send a chilling message to the Tea Party's most zealous members, as well as bolster Republicans who have been loyal to House Speaker John Boehner and taken tough votes, such as those to raise the federal debt ceiling.

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As I've posted before, the Tea Party is more about divisions in the Republican Party than anything else.

Seems TP has the same enemies sometimes as OWS. Quotes above are edited for brevity, but the entire article is interesting.

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The tea party is useful to channel republican outrage over the way country was run by republicans into electing new republicans.

#1 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-19 02:29 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The OWS was useful to channel "progressives" outrage over the way country is run by democrats into electing new democrats (See Warren).

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-05-19 04:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Seems TP has the same enemies sometimes as OWS." -

I agree with this, its difficult to split a party without letting the competing party take over. This is a constant argument Corky and Nulli seem to have.

But I am all in with the Tea Parties main objective, its all about the deficit, and debt......

Give people jobs, and lots of things start happening of their own volition....

The social agendas are ruining the possibility of a united front against the "oligarchy" the parties maintain.

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-05-19 04:20 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

And OWS, for all its pretense, had a point about the QE money disappearing, Andrea.
I think all the talking heads miss what these two movements actually mean.

#4 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-19 06:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

The GOP is likely getting ready to wipe with the handy TP.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-20 01:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Give people jobs"

How about you earn one instead.

#6 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-05-20 09:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

Tea Parties main objective, its all about the deficit, and debt......

Sure it is.

#7 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-20 09:50 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

OWS, for all its pretense, had a point about the QE money disappearing, Andrea.
I think all the talking heads miss what these two movements actually mean.

#4 | POSTED BY DIABLO AT 2014-05-19 06:41 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

OWS from what I observed was not about Democrats, but rather outrage over how the banking industry continually screws over the 99%, no matter who is in charge. The bailouts of the banking industry rightly provoked the outrage that lead to OWS and some of the same people who bitch continually about the monetary policy in the US were ridiculing the OWS movement.

Both parties are owned by Wall Street and the economic problems this nation faces is a direct result of that.

#8 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-20 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

I'm guessing there will be some serious pucker factor happening if McConnell is retired today in Kentucky.

#9 | Posted by Daniel at 2014-05-20 10:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

OrangeMan is already trying to keep the TP in the fold after their expected defeats tonight.

Boehner: Not a 'big a difference' between tea party, GOP

Is there a divide between the GOP and tea party members? No, says House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).

On Tuesday, as voters head to cast ballots in several states that have contested GOP primaries, Boehner said the tea party has had a positive impact by bringing "great energy to our political process," The Washington Post reports.

And he also said the two have a lot in common.

"There's not that big a difference between what you call the tea party and your average conservative Republican," he said. "We're against Obamacare, we think taxes are too high, we think government is too big. I wouldn't continue to sing that same song."

politics.suntimes.com

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-20 11:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

ea Parties main objective, its all about the deficit, and debt......

Sure it is.

#7 | Posted by 726 at 2014-

WOW...I"m impressed...apparently you've been to some TP meetings and maybe even read some material??

yeah..of course you have............

#11 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-05-20 11:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

emails from the harris county republican party have finally stopped coming. they've finally realized I'm a conservative and not a rino....the gop who might as well move to the democrat party.

#12 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-05-20 11:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

Flag:

The OWS was useful to channel "progressives" outrage over the way country is run by democrats into electing new democrats (See Warren).

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Name 1 other democrat who supports OWS issues and values.

You can't. She's the only one. Meanwhile the TP has a stranglehold on congress.

When you OPPOSE the banks you get crushed, arrested, and thrown off public lands by the bank owned cops.

When you SUPPORT the banks and elites with you ignorant anti tax anti regulation dimwit agenda, you get millions in campaign cash and are treated like serious intellectuals.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-20 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

No one owns bernie sanders and corporations are TERRIFIED of elizabeth warren.

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-20 02:37 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

the limited-government Tea Party movement and more traditional corporate-oriented Republicans.

Like there is a difference. Corporations like the Kochs and Rupie Murdoch created the "tea Party". Look at Runt Paul. He wants corporations to do whatever they want.

If you end up getting screwed, well, that's life. Or death. Just find a good lawyer. And pray, baby, pray.

"Limited government " TPs want the goverment limited to old white Republicans and bureaucrats keeping an eye on women's hoo hoos and men's pee pees. Right, AFLAC?

(Clean enough, RCADE?)

#15 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-05-20 02:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

ea Parties main objective, its all about the deficit, and debt......

Which is why YOU campaigned and voted for Dubya and McCain and Romney, right, Aflac?

#16 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-05-20 02:40 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

" corporations are TERRIFIED of elizabeth warren."

I doubt it. The corporate state isn't going to be downsized by any one politician. She will be co-opted, if she hasn't been already.

#17 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-20 02:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

I doubt it. The corporate state isn't going to be downsized by any one politician. She will be co-opted, if she hasn't been already.

#17 | Posted by nullifidian

Wall street didn't pour millions into defeating her because they think they can co opt her.

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-20 03:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Wall street didn't pour millions into defeating her because they think they can co opt her."

Well it seems she supports Carlyle Clinton. That's not a good sign.

#19 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-20 03:33 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#19

No pol is pure enough for the purist of the pure.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-20 03:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

keeping an eye on women's hoo hoos and men's pee pees. Right, AFLAC?
(Clean enough, RCADE?)

Yep, clean enough. My 8 year old talks like that!

#21 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2014-05-20 03:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Wall street didn't pour millions into defeating her because they think they can co opt her."

Bingo.

As Senator she's continued to make them quake in their boots.

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-20 05:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

#22

You don't have a side, "hack". That would require having a viable candidate. Words are wind, and that's all you have.

And the comments were about Warren, who obviously isn't Puritopian enough for you as she is willing to put her vote where her mouth is.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-20 05:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

"You don't have a side, "hack". That would require having a viable candidate."

Really. I need an "electable" candidate--a member of the two party dictatorship--to have an opinion? Sounds like the DNC talking.

#25 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-20 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#25

To have an effect, obviously.

Whining won't do a thing.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-20 07:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

How about you earn one instead.
#6 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES AT 2014-05-20 09:40 AM | FLAG:

Can't earn what isn't there.

When you OPPOSE the banks you get crushed, arrested, and thrown off public lands by the bank owned cops.
When you SUPPORT the banks and elites with you ignorant anti tax anti regulation dimwit agenda, you get millions in campaign cash and are treated like serious intellectuals.
#13 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2014-05-20 01:32 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

The heart of the matter right there, and why the media, owned by the same special interests, was so very quick to paint OWS with the brush of all being dirty loser hippies. I noticed the Tea Party also didn't have to contend with all the documented agent provocateur issues OWS had to fight from the inside.

#27 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-05-20 07:24 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 4

A key detail to remember about the Republican party is that when it was originally formed, one of the most significant factions that formed it were the Whigs (northern ones at least).

And the Whigs have always been a party for big business (which absolutely does NOT mean they are 'corrupt', but absolutely DOES mean that they approach issues from a big business perspective....). That faction never disappeared, and has had a variable run over the decades of how powerful it has been inside the party.

Given a choice between 'modern Whigs' and the Tea Party, I'll take the Tea Party, but I do think the Big Business position does have valuable input to provide, and not just their money.

#28 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-05-21 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

...what every democrat and moderate of any persuasion
needs to understand is that the G.O.P. is the Tea Party
is the Libertarian Party...

the only difference is that some of them lack the
willpower to control their tongues, and thus say
what is truly on their minds...the rest of them
feel much the same, they just know better than to
say it out loud...

they will all take a chainsaw to the Social Safety Net,
they will all try to shrink government, except their
own favorite parts of it (of course), thereby eliminating
thousands of good paying jobs for hard working folks,
and they will all trash or do nothing about the environment...

so if you care for the environment, are concerned about
the planet, want to actually retire some day, don't want to see
your health benefits cut or shrunk, don't want to see your pensions raided,
don't want to see more tax cuts for billionaires, don't want
to see more fracking, more logging, more shrinkage in
protected federal lands, don't want to see more lax gun control
laws, don't want to see the continued gutting of gun control
laws, don't want to see continued mega-mergers of telecoms,
entertainment and t.v. industries, reducing the amount of choice
you have in cable, satellite, and t.v. industries, don't want to
see corporate bailouts going citizens without a monied interest
or claim, don't want to see more Trickle UP economics, don't want
to see Socialized Debts and Privatized Gains...

then you better get out, and get everyone else out who feels the
same, and VOTE in this election...

elsewise, it's the BUZZSAW...

#29 | Posted by earthmuse at 2014-05-21 10:50 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#29

Very NW post.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-21 11:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Earthmuse, that key to your left called "Shift" is for capital letters.

#31 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-22 12:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

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