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Friday, May 16, 2014

Katherine Wells, The Atlantic: Every atom in our bodies was fused in the body of an ancient star. NASA astronomer Dr. Michelle Thaller explains how the iron in our blood connects us to one of the most violent acts in the universe -- a supernova explosion -- and what the universe might look like when all the stars die out.

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This video is a collaboration between The Atlantic and SoundVision Productions' The Really Big Questions.

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#1 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-14 12:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

www.theatlantic.com

You may have to slide it over to the We are Dead Stars vid.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-14 12:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

Okay, Corky. That appears to be true right now.
But my NY Rangers won tonight. Stars are of the moment sometimes, not always ancient.

#3 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-14 12:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

Dead?

No.

We just changed structure.

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-14 01:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

Elvis?

#5 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2014-05-14 02:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

There was a segment on this in Wonders of the Universe by the BBC.

Very cool stuff.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2014-05-14 03:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

".... and what the universe might look like when all the stars die out."

Have we calculated The Nine Billion Names of God yet?

Let's see, there's God. That was an easy one. Allah, El, Jehovah. Well, that's all I got. 8,999,999,996 to go.

#7 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2014-05-14 09:40 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"We are stardust
Billion year old carbon
We are golden
Caught in the devil's bargain
And we've got to get ourselves
back to the garden"...Joni Mitchell

#8 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-05-14 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

www.youtube.com

#9 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-05-14 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

In the sweat of your face shall you eat bread, till you return unto the ground; for out of it were you taken: for dust you are, and unto dust shall you return.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-14 11:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

for dust you are, and unto dust shall you return.
#10 | Posted by Corky

Yer soundin a little Jewish iffn ya asks me.
When The Lawd Calls Me Home, I'm a Gwine Up To Hebbin!

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-05-14 02:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

#11

Just noting that some ancient peoples took our coming from dust for granted.

Sans the poor black accent, of course.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-14 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Being alive is brilliant.

And then it ends.

Forever.

Our atoms scattered around the universe and used for other stuff.

Perfect.

#13 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-05-14 04:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

-Our atoms scattered around the universe and used for other stuff.

Yep. Though not necessarily the quantum stuff.

www.quantumconsciousness.org

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-14 04:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Every atom in our bodies was fused in the body of an ancient star

This has been common knowledge for decades.

#15 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-14 11:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Every atom in our bodies was fused in the body of an ancient star"

This has been common knowledge for decades.

slight correction: Every atom except hydrogen and some lithium. Those came from the Big Bang. But otherwise, yes -- every atom other than hydrogen was fused in the body of an ancient star.

There are no two atoms you can fuse to get hydrogen. It is the simplest atom.

#16 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-14 11:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

"We are dead stars"

Signed, Humphrey Bogart, Clarke Gable, Judy Garland, Paul Newman, John Wayne, Marilyn Monroe, et al

#17 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-14 11:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes we are.

I love COSMOS.

The Universe had risen up and gazed upon itself and marveled.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-15 12:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Old news but still awesome.

Slightly relate thought....

The quote "My God - It's fll of stars!" always made the silly side of my brain think "so that's where the Hollywood a-listers hang out...."

#19 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-05-16 08:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

if time is infinite in both directions, the lengths of time extending backwards from our birth and forward following our deaths are both the same...

#20 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-05-16 11:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

f time is infinite in both directions, the lengths of time extending backwards from our birth and forward following our deaths are both the same...

But with the current most generally accepted (I know, that doesn't prove anything -- see also Ptolemy) cosmological model, time is not infinite going backwards. It began with the Big Bang.

#21 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-16 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

"But with the current most generally accepted (I know, that doesn't prove anything -- see also Ptolemy) cosmological model, time is not infinite going backwards. It began with the Big Bang.

i come at it more from a philosophical angle than a scientific one.

if one accepts it had a "start" than one ultimately falls into an endless pattern of infinite regression, i.e. "what happened before the big bang?"

#22 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-05-16 11:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

if one accepts it had a "start" than one ultimately falls into an endless pattern of infinite regression, i.e. "what happened before the big bang?"

"Before" is a temporal concept and as such is meaningless in this context. As Stephen Hawking eloquently put it, "Asking what happened before the Big Bang is like asking what is north of the north pole".

#23 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-16 11:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

Asking what happened before the Big Bang is like asking what is north of the north pole"

on a globe one can go south and eventually find themselves heading north and vice versa.

so the metaphor that hawking presents is useless.

#24 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-05-16 11:49 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#25 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-05-16 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

so the metaphor that hawking presents is useless.

No, not really. In Hawking's book he used quite a few analogies for a four dimensional universe by subtracting one dimension and positing it as a three dimensional universe which is a lot more easily understood by laymen like me.

In the book he had "time cones" and "time spheres" graphically illustrated that made understanding a 4 dimensional universe much easier. Perhaps his analogy would make more sense to you if you had seen them. Of course I cannot present them here.

So yes, having that in mind and equating our four dimensional universe as a three dimensional one by subtracting one dimension, his analogy makes perfect sense. Just as it is meaningless to ask "what is north of the north pole" it is meaningless to ask "what happened before the big bang" since the big bang is one of the "poles" in a four dimensional universe. It makes perfect sense.

#26 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-16 12:32 PM | Reply | Flag:


Joni is God.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-16 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

More Joni, same concert...

www.youtube.com

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-16 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Have we calculated The Nine Billion Names of God yet?

Even if we did, most of the starlight would continue for eons to come.

#29 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-05-16 09:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Joni said we need godesses, but she wasn't one. She IS an artistic genius with few peers.
=+=
Mass spectra and isotopes:

This treatise purports to demonstrate proof that THE CORE OF THE SUN IS IRON

www.nobelprize.org

#30 | Posted by kenx at 2014-05-16 10:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is a lie from the pit of hell in the name of science.

#31 | Posted by takitez at 2014-05-17 09:04 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 3

Periodic table with sources of the elements. We're not just stardust; we're supernova ejectamenta too. en.wikipedia.org

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-05-17 04:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

**** We Are No DEAD Stars...We're RECYCLED Stars!

#33 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-05-18 04:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

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