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Tuesday, May 13, 2014

The timeline of the Internal Revenue Service targeting of conservative groups reveals nothing less than a scandal. It is a scandal that blew into public view a year ago this week and about which the press has been far from curious.

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This is the second source in as many days that has called for immunity for Lois Lerner in exchange for full testimony.

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-13 07:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

Let's sit back and watch the parade of proggies come from the Benghazi room to the IRS room and repeat their same words: "Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along"

#2 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-13 07:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

Today's news media are largely ignoring the IRS scandal,

I wonder if it is because you have to read more than four sentences to get to the "scandal" and the public just doesn't care?

#3 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-13 07:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Quick nurse, oxygen, this story is dying. If we lose this patient we'll be down to just Obamacare and Benghazi and we both know those two are nearly dead too."

#4 | Posted by danni at 2014-05-13 07:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

Of course Danni has ZERO problem with the IRS being used as a weapon for the Democratic Party.

#5 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-13 07:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

Of course Danni has ZERO problem with the IRS being used as a weapon for the Democratic Party.

And she apparently has no problem with the Benghazi lies judging by her refusal to answer a simple question about them last night.

I wonder if danni would be so supportive of a Republican president who was caught up in the same scandals?

#6 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-13 07:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well the last time we had a Republican president he had his own scandals such as ignoring security warnings that ended with 9/11 and invading Iraq based on lies.

Which of those scandals is less than the IRS?

#7 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-13 08:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well, why don't you create a thread regarding 9/11 and Iraq, 726.

#8 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-13 08:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well the last time we had a Republican president...

This story is about the current president, not a past one. Check your deflections at the door please.

At least you admit that 0bama is as bad of a president as Bush. Points for that. But Bush is in the past. Can't be changed. 0bama is now.

#9 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-13 08:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

#6 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

I am sure she is down with the Pigford scam as well.

Obama citing Executive Privilege during the Fast and Furious investigation? Why in the hell did he even wait as long as he did?

The blatant violation of bankruptcy law with the GM bailout? It benefited the UAW so it's all good.

That the taxpayer lost more than $10 Billion on the GM bailout and that this now profitable company isn't required to pay any of those losses back? Who cares.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-13 08:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well, why don't you create a thread regarding 9/11 and Iraq, 726.

#8 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2014-05-13 08:08 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Duck and cover.

This story is about the current president, not a past one.

Don't ask a question about "I wonder if danni would be so supportive of a Republican president" if you don't want to see an answer that references a Republican president. Maybe we can hypothetically surmise what President Romney would be doing right now, but that would only be conjecture.

At least you admit that 0bama is as bad of a president as Bush.

As good as ever at assigning positions, but still wrong.

But Bush is in the past. Can't be changed. 0bama is now.

IRS looking into teaparty groups is in the past too. Can't be changed.

#11 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-13 08:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

That the taxpayer lost more than $10 Billion on the GM bailout and that this now profitable company isn't required to pay any of those losses back? Who cares.

She cares as much about that $10 billion as you do about the $10 billion per MONTH pissed away in Iraq.

I must have missed your outrage over that money.

#12 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-13 08:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

Don't ask a question about "I wonder if danni would be so supportive of a Republican president" ...

Um, danni is talking about a past president who existed. I was putting out a hypothetical situation about the current one if he was a different party.

See the difference?

#13 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-13 08:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

As good as ever at assigning positions, but still wrong.

???

You're the one comparing 0bama to bush, not I.

#14 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-13 08:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

IRS looking into teaparty groups is in the past too

No. That concerned under 0bama. He is NOW, not past. We just wish he was past.

#15 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-13 08:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Duck and cover.

No. It's called relevance. You want to discuss Iraq and 9/11 you are free to create a couple threads of your own.

She cares as much about that $10 billion as you do about the $10 billion per MONTH pissed away in Iraq.
I must have missed your outrage over that money.

#12 | POSTED BY 726 AT 2014-05-13 08:23 AM

Another Bush deflection? Is that really all you've got? Never mind - I think that question answers itself.

IRS looking into teaparty groups is in the past too. Can't be changed.

#11 | POSTED BY 726

True. But it can and should be investigated.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-13 08:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

"True. But it can and should be investigated."

Earth to Jeff, it was. What you really mean is that it should be reinvestigated and reinvestigated and reinvestigated until you get the results you want.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2014-05-13 09:20 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

More progressive groups "targeted" - meaning, the IRS questioned claims they were what they said they are (which is what everyone knows - wink, wink - they really are).

As for the press ignoring...belly laugh department.

Why not merge the two current GOPiggy ------------- together and mumble, a la a mantra, "Benghazi...IRS...Benghazi...I
RS"? That'll keep the mindless ----- cowering at the base of the shaky edifice quite happy.

#18 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2014-05-13 09:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

What you really mean is that it should be reinvestigated and reinvestigated and reinvestigated until you get the results you want.

#17 | POSTED BY DANNI

We still don't know who, specifically, ordered the targeting. It didn't just happen spontaneously. A conscious decision was made - an order was given.

It could very well be that this entire thing began and ended with Lois Lerner. If that is the case, then the administration and the Dems really don't have much to worry about. The fact that they are doing everything in their power to stonewall this suggests to me that they are culpable. If the facts show them NOT to be culpable - fine. But let's get all of the facts out.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-13 09:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

More progressive groups "targeted" - meaning, the IRS questioned claims they were what they said they are (which is what everyone knows - wink, wink - they really are)

Um, no.

Only a handful of progressive groups made it onto the BOLO list. ZERO progressive groups were asked invasive and inappropriate questions. ZERO progressive groups had to wait beyond the normal 30-90 period to receive their approval/denial. This is a matter of public record and it's indisputable.

Confidential tax information was leaked to Pro Publica which is a liberal media outlet. This is leaking is a criminal act.

As for the press ignoring...belly laugh department.

They covered it when it first broke. As new information has trickled out it's been ignored. When it is mentioned it is done so in a manner that parrots the administration's talking points.

Why not merge the two current GOPiggy ------------- together and mumble, a la a mantra, "Benghazi...IRS...Benghazi...I
RS"? That'll keep the mindless ----- cowering at the base of the shaky edifice quite happy.

#18 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

Go ahead and continue to defend the indefensible. You will find much support on the left.

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-13 09:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

How many liberals received the Catherine Engelbrecht treatment?

#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-13 09:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

You guys act like as long as enough time passes, then something like this has been fully investigated. In the political-realm it's called "running out the clock". Essentially, you are offering your support for this administration obstructing and stonewalling an investigation. But, that is typical of hyper-partisans.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-13 09:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

You're the one comparing 0bama to bush, not I.

#14 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2014-05-13 08:26 AM | FLAG:

I asked a question if ignoring warnings about 9/11 or invading Iraq was more of a scandal than the IRS.

Do understand that.

#23 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-13 01:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

We still don't know who, specifically, ordered the targeting. It didn't just happen spontaneously. A conscious decision was made - an order was given.

I am going to hazard a guess that since Lerner already took the 5th, she is the person that knows who ordered it. She ain't talking and if you got nothing else what do you expect to happen?

#24 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-13 01:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

I am going to hazard a guess that since Lerner already took the 5th, she is the person that knows who ordered it. She ain't talking and if you got nothing else what do you expect to happen?

#24 | POSTED BY 726

I think a bunch of her emails were just released to one of the investigating committees. I guess we'll have to see what that produces.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-13 01:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wait, isn't the IRS scandal just a deflection from Benghazi?

Or... is it the other way around???

#26 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-05-13 05:43 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

So a GOP organization submitted a document to become tax exempt and consider it "Targeting" when the application is reviewed for legality?

Oh the horror of it all.

Simple minds...

#27 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-05-13 07:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

So a GOP organization submitted a document to become tax exempt and consider it "Targeting" when the application is reviewed for legality?
Oh the horror of it all.
Simple minds...
#27 | POSTED BY PROLIX247

Are you truly ignorant as to what this is all about that you honestly believe what you just typed, or are you just trolling?

If it's the latter - not a bad effort.

#28 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-14 01:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

The fact that they are doing everything in their power to stonewall this suggests to me that they are culpable. If the facts show them NOT to be culpable - fine. But let's get all of the facts out.

I'm sorry but you have to be the most naive SOB on the planet if you think any investigation will be impartial or for an honest assessment of the facts.

They're stonewalling because at the very least any investigation will be a GOP dog and pony show to score political points.

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2014-05-14 02:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm sorry but you have to be the most naive SOB on the planet if you think any investigation will be impartial or for an honest assessment of the facts.

I never suggested such a thing. I KNOW this will be politicized.

They're stonewalling because at the very least any investigation will be a GOP dog and pony show to score political points.

They are ALSO stonewalling because they have something to hide.

What happened was criminal. This is a true scandal. It may very well be a scandal that has nothing to do with this administration. If this is a bureaucratic agency run amok - then get the facts out and deal with it. That this happened in the first place doesn't necessarily tie it to the Dems and/or the Obama administration. That they are going to extreme lengths to stonewall and obstruct DOES suggest that they may have had a hand in this.

#30 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-14 02:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

JPW,

Let me add this: I was horrified by the recent VA scandal. Even though it's under the purview of the executive branch, that it happened is NOT an indictment of the Obama administration in any way. Much like Abu Graihb wasn't the fault of the Bush administration.

What matters is how something like this is handled once it's uncovered.

The investigation into Abu Graihb was pretty transparent. The MSM was aggressive in its coverage and those responsible were held accountable. Politically, Bush suffered short-term, but in just a few years after his presidency is over, this issue is never listed as one of his failures. That is because it was properly handled.

Contrast that with Obama's big-3. Fast and Furious, Benghazi and the IRS thing (which currently can't even be tied to this administration or the Dem party as a whole) ALL followed the same pattern of obfuscation, stonewalling, obstruction, etc.

Why?

Going back to the VA - this administration (if Drudge Report headlines are to be believed) is already hinting that nothing will be done regarding this issue.

What's next?

#31 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-14 03:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

That they are going to extreme lengths to stonewall and obstruct DOES suggest that they may have had a hand in this.

It could suggest a lot of things.

The only thing certain in my mind is that the Dems aren't looking to hand the GOP a sliver platter of ammo in an election year.

If the GOP would clean house a bit and start acting like grownups I'd be all for a real investigation and airing of the facts. I'm not for a dog and pony political hack show. That won't do any good for the country as a whole.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2014-05-14 03:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

I haven't been big on complaining about media bias in the past. But the inattention the media gave the IRS scandal and the continuing NSA abuses indicates there is something really wrong here. Watergate was quaint next to this stuff.

#33 | Posted by Sully at 2014-05-14 09:57 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

That won't do any good for the country as a whole.

#32 | Posted by jpw

I haven't seen the GOTP doing much that is good for the county as a whole for a long time.

Maybe we WOULD pay more attention if it didn't just seem like Déjà vu all over again.

If the GOTP were not crying wolf so much maybe we would listen more.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-14 07:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Media ignores... Let the next Republican administration to the exact same thing to prog/lib groups and you can bet the media would be all over it.

#35 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-05-14 10:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

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