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The conservative syndicated newspaper columnist George Will says in an interview with the Daily Caller that he doesn't believe in God. "I am not religious at all," Will said after a reporter commented that he'd heard the syndicated columnist wasn't particularly religious. "I'm an amiable, low-voltage atheist. ... I deeply respect religions and religious people. The great religions reflect something constant and noble in the human character, defensible and admirable yearnings. I am just not persuaded. That's all."

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and get ready for the sanctimonious attack about to erupt...

another interesting 'accident ?" ....just this morning read from krauthammer's book how liberals have trouble believing that a conservative can be anything other than the 'official Goebbels department of the DNC ( my phrase, not krauthammer's )...stereotypes them to be....

this does nothing to lower my opinion that these two are the mount rushmore of modern conservatives...

#1 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-05-05 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

"these two are the mount rushmore of modern conservatives.."

So, conservatives can only fill half the mountain? It figures.

#2 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-05-05 11:10 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 4

those two are more than enough to handle any liberal still believing in the government 'tooth fairy'...

#3 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-05-05 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

"and get ready for the sanctimonious attack about to erupt..."

From the Christians? He knew he had to stay under the radar until he became successful or they would have crushed him if he was too outspoken about it too soon.

As it has always been with the Religulous.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-05 11:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

no that's not what I was speaking of....you've already provided a start....

lol

#5 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-05-05 11:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

low voltage atheist. interesting term.

I would consider Goatman to be a low voltage atheist.

Zat? high voltage, for sure.

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2014-05-05 12:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

The conservative syndicated newspaper columnist George Will says in an interview with the Daily Caller that he doesn't believe in God.

Posted by dave

This should surprise no one.

The republican coalition is a union between religious morons who want government to force their religion on everyone, and rich greedbags who don't give a crap about religion but need the religious morons' votes in order to stay in power. George Will simply let us know which one he is.

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-05 12:34 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

"low voltage atheist"

That's a good point of view, and characterizes most non-theists. There still needs to be a few militant atheists around to file law suits against monotheists trying to erode the separation between church and state, and point out the obvious discrimination against non-theists.

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-05 12:45 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

"He knew he had to stay under the radar until he became successful or they would have crushed him if he was too outspoken about it too soon."

Untrue. I see nothing wrong with a person who is atheist as long as it does not morph into hatred of religion. Will simply is not persuaded.
My only problem with the guy is he rarely sees a military action he does not like.

#9 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-05 12:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

George Will betrays his lack of scientific acumen.

Any honest intellect upon studying the natural world in fields not so far removed like biochemistry and not bioinformatics, molecular biology and not physics has come face to face in graduate and post doc realms with the unknowable.

If a man like Georgie can face the unknowable and think he's a match, what a weasel, political hack trying to stay relevant in a post republican world is he.

"Hey man, check it out, I got my Idiocracy degree!"

I pity you, baby.

#10 | Posted by Jeffglobal at 2014-05-05 12:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Any honest intellect upon studying the natural world in fields not so far removed like biochemistry and not bioinformatics, molecular biology and not physics has come face to face in graduate and post doc realms with the unknowable.

#10 | Posted by Jeffglobal

A lot of things that people used to consider "unknowable" are now knowable, due to scientific progress.

Thinking that we'll never know something just because we don't know it today is short sighted and simple minded.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-05 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Karl Rove, who bought Pat Robertson's Pres mailing list and made promises to those people to help put GW into office is a mucho hypocritical atheist.

-a few militant atheists

To spam blogs with ridicule of other's beliefs, one presumes.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-05 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Whine. Whine. Whine. Monotheists are such crybabies. They think their cults should be revered, rather than laughed at.

#13 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-05 01:13 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Never thought of it before but Will does seem like a low voltage atheist.

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-05 01:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Never thought of it before but Will does seem like a low voltage atheist.
#14 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-05 01:51 PM

The repub party is rife with them for the reasons mentioned by SpeakSoftly in #7 (marriage of convenience between the greedy and the ignorant). It's a safe bet that any Repub who doesn't profess his personal faith in God at pretty much every opportunity is a closet atheist or agnostic.

#15 | Posted by censored at 2014-05-05 01:56 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

We need groups like this to stand up to monotheistic authoritarianism.

"Americans United for Separation of Church and State today strongly condemned a U.S. Supreme Court ruling upholding the town of Greece, N.Y.'s policy of opening government meetings with Christian prayers.

In a 5-4 decision today, the high court said that Marsh v. Chambers, a 1983 ruling that permits state legislatures to pay for official chaplains and open sessions with prayers, authorizes the town's practice.

"The Supreme Court just relegated millions of Americans --- both believers and nonbelievers --- to second-class citizenship," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United, which sponsored the lawsuit. "Government should not be in the business of forcing faith on anyone, and now all who attend meetings of their local boards could be subjected to the religion of the majority."

#16 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-05 01:56 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

Null grow up.

You're an atheist not a vampire or a Muslim cry baby.

#17 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-05 02:05 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

"You're an atheist not a vampire or a Muslim cry baby."

I'm a non-theist. You're a monotheist, i.e., someone who believes in some anthropomorphic, supernatural Father.

#18 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-05 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Untrue. I see nothing wrong with a person who is atheist as long as it does not morph into hatred of religion.

Oh? Really?

How many atheist do YOU know of? Try running for an political office and even casually mentioning that you are an atheist.

I will believe we are well our way to accepting atheists in this society when I see one become President.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-05 03:10 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

I will believe we are well our way to accepting atheists in this society when I see one become President.

I would be very surprised to learn we haven't had several for president already.

#20 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-05 03:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Americans United for Separation of Church and State today strongly condemned a U.S. Supreme Court ruling upholding the town of Greece, N.Y.'s policy of opening government meetings with Christian prayers.

Very NW...Is there a thread on this yet?

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-05 03:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would be very surprised to learn we haven't had several for president already.

#20 | Posted by goatman

very true...

perhaps I should have said, an openly atheist President.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-05-05 03:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

I suspect it won't take many more elections before that happens.

Only one or two decades ago, being pro-homosexuality was political suicide, not it's not. I suspect there's a very large overlap between people in the pro-homosexuality camp and functional atheists.

#23 | Posted by DoofusOfDeath at 2014-05-05 03:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

s/not it's not/now it's not/

#24 | Posted by DoofusOfDeath at 2014-05-05 03:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would be very surprised to learn we haven't had several for president already.

Agreed. I actually think the same of many in power - even clergy. Maybe especially clergy.

#25 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-05-05 03:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I'm a non-theist"

try to rebrand all you want null but you're much like larry craig denying he's gay.

Only instead of being ashamed of having a hankering for man meat you're ashamed of your atheism.

#26 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-05 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Any honest intellect upon studying the natural world in fields not so far removed like biochemistry and not bioinformatics, molecular biology and not physics has come face to face in graduate and post doc realms with the unknowable.
#10 | Posted by Jeffglobal

Is this a "G-d of the gaps" argument, with a side order of scorn?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-05-05 03:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

#26 | POSTED BY TOR

So tolerance is not one of the Christian virtues that you abide by, eh CherryPicker?

#28 | Posted by CALIbertarian at 2014-05-05 04:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

tolerance?

Clearly you confuse that term for giving others carte blanche.

#29 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-05 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

George Will is a black shirt.

End of story.

#30 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-05-05 08:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would be very surprised to learn we haven't had several for president already.
#20 | Posted by goatman
very true...
perhaps I should have said, an openly atheist President.
#22 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2014-05-05 03:15 PM | FLAG:

I'd be shocked if any politicians currently out there actually believe and don't merely use religion for a little useful dog-whistle politicking.

#31 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-05-05 09:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Indeed. Whether left or right, not many seem too concerned with actual religious values. Any good deity would be appalled by their conduct.

#32 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-05-06 12:00 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

We haven't had a good deity since Ishtar.

#33 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-05-06 12:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

- Ishtar

She was hot.

www.cyberwitchcraft.com

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2014-05-06 12:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

#10 | Posted by Jeffglobal

What a steaming pile of garbage.

I love it when [...] try to get all preachy about science. It makes my day.

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2014-05-06 03:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

Untrue. I see nothing wrong with a person who is atheist as long as it does not morph into hatred of religion. Will simply is not persuaded.

The only part of this that's true is the emphasized point.

Any critique of religion, no matter how dry and factual, is met by wailing and bemoaning of the bigotry of religion haters by you for the rest of the thread.

Do you honestly think people don't remember what you post?

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2014-05-06 03:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Just read George Will's entry in Wikipedia. He is certainly well educated & i've always regarded him as intelligent but hawkish. Now i see he has held some views in line with mine:
1) Will has proposed that the United States withdraw all troops from Afghanistan.
2) He criticized the Bush administration for engaging in warrantless surveillance.
3) On crime, Will is opposed to the death penalty.
4) Will favors the legalization of drugs (served as an editor for National Review--libertarian on drug reform--from 1972-78)
5) In February 2013, Will wrote in support breaking up consolidated banks and finance industry conglomerates; and ending "Too big to fail" by restoring the Glass-Steagall Act.
6) Will was also a harsh and early critic of both Sarah Palin and John McCain's 2008 election campaign. He criticized Palin's understanding of the role of the Vice President and her qualifications for that role.
7) [Though initially hawkish on Iraq] he eventually expressed reservations about Bush administration Iraq policies, eventually openly criticizing what he perceived to be an unrealistically optimistic set of political scenarios. In March 2006, Will challenged the Bush White House to be more honest about the difficulties the United States faced in rebuilding and maintaining order within Iraq, describing the optimistic assessments delivered from the Bush administration as the "rhetoric of unreality".

#37 | Posted by kenx at 2014-05-06 05:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

"try to rebrand all you want null "

You're dumb. A-theism means non-theism.

#38 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-06 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

#37 ~ #7 on list of Will's journalistic efforts is on 2nd thought too little too late. His initial support of invading Iraq puts him in the enemy column for this issue. And had he, an influential voice, opposed the invasion, there would have been consequences along the lines of what we saw happen to Valerie Plame. Criticizing the war several years in just does not cut it.

#39 | Posted by kenx at 2014-05-06 12:42 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

He may claim to be an atheist but I'll bet he sometimes can't help but thinking that God hates the Cubs.

#40 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2014-05-06 03:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

"You're dumb. A-theism means non-theism."

See what I mean about his attempts to distance himself from his own atheism?

#41 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-06 04:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

"See what I mean about his attempts to distance himself from his own atheism?"

You have nothing, and obviously don't understand how the english language works. Maybe you should pick up up an english textbook.

#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-06 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

I know that many atheists are desperate to rebrand themselves.

You're just one of many screaming that theists are a bunch of followers while you continue to lumber along with the rest your herd.

#43 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-06 04:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I know that many atheists are desperate to rebrand themselves."

Name them. I use the term non-theist only because theists are so dishonest in their use of the term "atheism". Once again for you folks in Rio Linda, a-theism equals non-theism, just as a-political means non-political. It's English 101.

#44 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-06 05:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Rio Linda?

Null is off his meds again.

#45 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-06 07:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

this does nothing to lower my opinion that these two are the mount rushmore of modern conservatives...

Yeah, they really displayed their intellectual and political acumen with all things Iraq, didn't they?

LOL

#46 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2014-05-06 07:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

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