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Saturday, May 03, 2014

The number of reported sexual assaults in the U.S. armed forces jumped by 50 percent last year, with almost three-quarters of the cases prompting military prosecutions. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the figures, contained in a 2013 annual report on sexual assault he released Thursday, show that victims have more faith in the system thanks to protections he's implemented.

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Did I just read that??

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This isn't hard to figure out. The jump could indicate that victims are reporting rapes that they would not have reported in the past due to a lack of faith in the system.

#1 | Posted by rcade at 2014-05-03 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

I think that's what he meant, Rcade, but it certainly came out wrong.

#2 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-03 02:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Colonel: You mean, you were raped?

Private Susie: Well at first, yes

(yes, lifted from Monty Python)

#3 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-03 04:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

GOsh it's almost as if when you intentionally break the part of a person's brain that usually keeps them from killing people, it also breaks the part that usually keeps them from raping people too.

Oh well. Collateral damage of empire.

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-05-03 04:32 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Hagel cited "estimates that men comprise more than half the victims of sexual assault in the military."

Don't ask don't tell had some major flaws butttttttt....

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-03 05:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hmmm....Are we gullible enough to believe that such an outcome was unforeseen? The "Powers-that-Be" put young women and men at the height of their hormones together in stressful deployment situations including combat, and then they are surprised that sometimes the situation and proximity drives inappropriate non-consensual contact. WTH did they expect? What were the similar rates in 1960, -70,-80,-90, etc?

This increase is likely the result of two factors. One it is more politically acceptable to report assaults today than 10 years ago, and two there is much more interaction in all branches in shear numbers between sexes.

#6 | Posted by Robson at 2014-05-03 05:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

@ Robson

You're analysis is stupid.

I would elaborate, but I'm about to annihilate GoatRope ~

#7 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2014-05-03 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sen. Claire McCaskill, said the increased number of sexual-assault victims stepping forward is partially the result of reforms SHE crafted that became part of last year's annual defense authorization bill.

What and amazing women, and true patriot

#8 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-05-03 07:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Colonel: You mean, you were raped?

Private Susie: Well at first, yes

(yes, lifted from Monty Python)

#3 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2014-05-03 04:19 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Why does a ------- Monty Python reference make that reference meaningful to a woman's right to say "no" during any first sexual encounter? ... regardless of the circumstance's????

You can't be THAT dense.

You're part of the problem.

Women serving in the military should be EXTREMELY thankful that your Navy service was a short lived as it was...

Hope you have a great weekend.

#9 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2014-05-03 07:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

@ Goatman

In fact, do you even understand the meaning of satire?

Geez Lou-eeeze!

#10 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2014-05-03 07:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Since when does Monty Python satire EVER pass for serious dialogue when it comes real world discourse on the subject of RAPE?

It must be a Republican and conservative thing.

Just like all the right wing candidates espousing the non-importance of a woman's right to say "no", regardless of the circumstances...

In-Freaking-Credible.

#11 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2014-05-03 07:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

In fact, do you even understand the meaning of satire?

Yep. That's why I posted some.

Now unwad your panties.

#12 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-03 07:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Are these legitimate rapes being reported, or the other kind?

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-05-03 07:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wow. Got three whiney responses from pinchaloaf from that one joke.

Cool!

#14 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-03 07:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

So women in the army is a failure and gays in the military is also a failure....

So what did we expect would happen.

#15 | Posted by tmaster at 2014-05-03 09:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

So what did we expect would happen.

This was predicted. Also predicted (but thankfully hasn't happened yet) are the horrible things that will happen to a female soldier taken POW or kidnapped by foreign forces.

#16 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-03 09:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

I couldn't agree more----the abject stupidity of people pushing these policies in our military is seen for what it is----and you can guess it will become worse.

#17 | Posted by matsop at 2014-05-03 10:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder if Boaz would like to comment on this subject.

#18 | Posted by matsop at 2014-05-03 10:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Since when does Monty Python satire EVER pass for serious dialogue when it comes real world discourse on the subject of RAPE?"

Since when does that matter when the secretary of defense call an increase of rapes progress?

#19 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-04 12:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

@ Diablo

you're not making any sense

#20 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2014-05-04 12:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Rape is NEVER funny

#21 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2014-05-04 12:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

Rape is NEVER funny

It depends

#22 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-04 12:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

^ whatever you say, GoatRape...

#23 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2014-05-04 01:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

whatever you say, GoatRape...

#23 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

Profound

#24 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-04 02:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well good news the military still offers death by firing squad for these rapist.

#25 | Posted by zack991 at 2014-05-04 04:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

How many would concur that societal common sense in many cases has been usurped with "political correctness"?

How many would concur that this concept of PCness has made us a more divided vs a more united nation?

Do we accomplish more as a divided nation, or do we accomplish less, while the dividers as intended gain political and monetary advantage?

PC was actually a Communist political tactic used in the Soviet Union.
en.wikipedia.org If we examine many of the political strategies intended to divide and weaken us, they had their roots in Communism.

#26 | Posted by Robson at 2014-05-04 11:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

How many would concur that societal common sense in many cases has been usurped with "political correctness"?

I have to agree here. This rise in rapes is PC's collateral damage.

#27 | Posted by goatman at 2014-05-04 11:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

How many would concur that this concept of PCness has made us a more divided vs a more united nation?

Probably only far right-wingers would agree with that.

Uncovering divisions that were glossed over in the past doesn't make us more divided. It helps us better understand what we are.

And what we are, among other things, is a nation that really likes to rape people, and really likes to blame the victim for getting raped.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-05-04 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

"And what we are, among other things, is a nation that really likes to rape people, and really likes to blame the victim for getting raped."

Or one could say we are a nation of "institutions" be it military, political, universities or corporations, whose primary interest is never the individuals, but in protecting the institutional reputation. They will readily coverup crimes against or reported by people to accomplish that end result. It has nothing to do with gender or rape.

#29 | Posted by Robson at 2014-05-04 01:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

It seems as if there is a direct correlation between de-stigmatizing women in the military who come forward with accusations of rape and the number of women willing to come forward. In other words, the military is finally starting to get it right. No woman should ever feel stigmatized about coming forward when it comes to being sexually victimized.

#30 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-05-04 01:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

GOsh it's almost as if when you intentionally break the part of a person's brain that usually keeps them from killing people, it also breaks the part that usually keeps them from raping people too.

Oh well. Collateral damage of empire.

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Newsworthy.

#31 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-05-04 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

@ Robson

Your PC argument is stupid.

I'm not ready to say that the numbers spike is due to better reporting, but I will say that the best fix is to take sexual assault cases out of the military chain of command...

That would fix it in a hurry.

#32 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2014-05-04 03:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

They will readily coverup crimes against or reported by people to accomplish that end result. It has nothing to do with gender or rape.
#29 | Posted by Robson

I see what you're saying but I wouldn't discount gender.

Rape reaffirms the patriarchy, even when a man gets raped, as it's men who are doing the raping. It's an expression of power.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-05-04 04:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

The draft-dodging, chicken-hawks Bush and Cheney LOWERED military standards and this is the result.
About 17 percent of the first-time recruits, were accepted under waivers for various medical, moral or criminal problems, including criminal arrests
Of those accepted under waivers, more than half were for "moral" reasons, and drug and alcohol problems or low aptitude test scores

#34 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-05-04 04:25 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

I wonder if actually rapes are up so much, or they are being reported more than in the past.

"The draft-dodging, chicken-hawks Bush and Cheney LOWERED military standards and this is the result.
About 17 percent of the first-time recruits, were accepted under waivers for various medical, moral or criminal problems, including criminal arrests
Of those accepted under waivers, more than half were for "moral" reasons, and drug and alcohol problems or low aptitude test scores "

#34 | POSTED BY SAMMYAZ_RI AT 2014-05-04 04:25 PM | FLAG: You are obviously not familiar with Project 100 Thousand from the Vietnam era. This pathetic program was sponsored by your favorite dems - LBJ. The dems have set the precedence for lowering standards ;)

en.wikipedia.org

#35 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-05-04 05:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

#35 | Posted by MSgt
It was Saint Ronald Reagan's defense department that tightened LBJ's lax recruiting standards, and because of 20 years without major wars Bush Sr and Clinton did not need to change them. It was only when Bush_Cheney invaded 2 countries that we did not have enough recruits
and the standards were lowered AGAIN

#36 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-05-04 06:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

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