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A British candidate running in European elections has been arrested after making a speech quoting passages from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill that were derogatory about Islam. Paul Weston, chairman of the anti-Islam Liberty GB fringe party, made the speech outside Winchester Guildhall in Hampshire Saturday. He was detained after failing to comply with a request by police to move on following a dispersal order. A story on the Russian government-controlled RT quoted Weston as reading passages criticizing Muslims for "improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property," which "exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live."

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It's only a matter of time before that will happen here. The thought and speech police are coming for you.

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It's only a matter of time before that will happen here.

You loons are on a roll today.

#1 | Posted by 726 at 2014-04-29 12:58 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#1

They do loves them some Russian state propaganda, er, news, don't they?

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2014-04-29 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

"The thought and speech police are coming for you."

So, how do you feel about the whole Donald Sterling thing?

#3 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-04-29 01:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

good question Harry, you go first?
one thing, i don't get how it comes now?
nor am i sure that the man diesn't have a right to be a racist, acting on it, discriminating, is something else.
then, there's the whole sports and money world--why do they get to have this private club where they approve and disapprove of private behaviors (notwithstanding Sterling)?

#4 | Posted by ichiro at 2014-04-29 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

moving to other thread.

#5 | Posted by ichiro at 2014-04-29 02:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

"It's only a matter of time before that will happen here" ..LOL

How much time Homer ?? Please be more precise

#6 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-04-29 06:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

"So, how do you feel about the whole Donald Sterling thing?"

What do you think of Christians, Harry? Trying to pretend a moral high ground now?

#7 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-04-30 02:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's only a matter of time before that will happen here.

No, it isn't, because we have the First Amendment.

#8 | Posted by rcade at 2014-04-30 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Churchhill matured much between 1899 and becoming PM.

#9 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-01 01:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

"What do you think of Christians, Harry? "

#7 | Posted by Diablo

If you're including yourself in the definition of "Christians" then you probably won't like my answer.

#10 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-05-01 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

this is nothing...we just had a man lose one of his businesses and was fined and is being humiliated in public because he told his girlfriend in his house IN PRIVATE that he didn't want her seeing black men.

and he also is losing out on an award from a certain group after paying them UNTOLD AMOUNTS OF money....

but it's okay...you know...as long as we just keep our mouths shut about it, we'll be okay....we'll be slaves to a fed govt.but .HEY...long as those checks and free things keep coming....no problem.

#11 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-05-01 01:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

#8
Tell that to Silver

#12 | Posted by homerj at 2014-05-01 01:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

churchill was typical of his era.

and now his worst nightmare is coming true.

cardamom tea and briyani will someday be the offical meal of britain.

blowback is a bitch, huh?

#13 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-05-01 01:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

"churchill was typical of his era."

The intelligent among us change with new information.

Churchhill was no exception.

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-01 01:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

You loons are on a roll today.

#1 | Posted by 726

There is a bill in the works to punish people for hate speech.

#15 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-05-01 01:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

I was at an Orlando, Fl attraction when I saw a young man with a small woman wrapped entirely in black cloth with only two, frightened eyes exposed. Both were trailing three preschoolers. In the Middle East there many men like him who wish me dead and my wife and daughter trussed up like his unfortunate woman. What was it our president called "the sweetest sound"?

#16 | Posted by jdmeth at 2014-05-01 01:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, it isn't, because we have the First Amendment.

#8 | Posted by rcade

Tell that to the clippers owner.

#17 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-05-01 01:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

"The intelligent among us change with new information"

no. i think churchill was a rabid racist until the end. he just learned as he grew older to keep his mouth shut about it.

#18 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-05-01 01:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, it isn't, because we have the First Amendment.
#8 | Posted by rcade
Tell that to the clippers owner.

#17 | POSTED BY SNIPER

The 1st Amendment protects us from government abridging our freedom of speech. Government had nothing to do with what happened to Sterling.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-01 01:38 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

a well coordinated media backlash is like a tsunami waiting to destroy people and careers, whether justified or not...

#20 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-05-01 01:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

**** So Mohammed was a guy who went out into the desert and God spoke to him,told him to start a religion.That's not much different than the scenario of John Smith and the Mormons i.e God talks to a guy and presto a new version of religion.What's not rational,logical or even hard to believe about that?

#21 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-05-01 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

"i think churchill was a rabid racist until the end. he just learned as he grew older to keep his mouth shut about it."

Are we talking "kill 'em all" type or "keep England English" type?

#22 | Posted by Tor at 2014-05-01 02:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, it isn't, because we have the First Amendment.
#8 | Posted by rcade
Tell that to the clippers owner.

#17 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2014-05-01 01:35 PM | REPLY | FLAG

You don't understand what the first amendment applies to.

#23 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-01 02:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Slovenly systems of agriculture?
Churchill would have loved modern Western agriculture which poisons our rivers with fertilized run-off.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-05-01 02:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

There is a bill in the works to punish people for hate speech.

#15 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2014-05-01 01:34 PM | FLAG:

Link.

#25 | Posted by 726 at 2014-05-01 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

The 1st Amendment protects us from government abridging our freedom of speech. Government had nothing to do with what happened to Sterling.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ

The constitution is just an old piece of paper to the politicians back in DC. They only follow it when it is to their benifit.

#26 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-05-01 03:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

There is a bill in the works to punish people for hate speech.

#15 | POSTED BY SNIPER

You mean this one?

beta.congress.gov

#27 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-05-01 04:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Whoops, hit enter on post instead of preview.

I have some issue with that as well..it's not so much that holding people accountable for advocating or encouraging violent action for crimes of hate, but that they do not specify what entails those two things. Can leave some things open to interpretation IMHO.

#28 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-05-01 04:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

**** So Mohammed was a guy who went out into the desert and God spoke to him,told him to start a religion.That's not much different than the scenario of John Smith and the Mormons i.e God talks to a guy and presto a new version of religion.What's not rational,logical or even hard to believe about that?

#21 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-05-01

It is no more or less rational or logical than believing some dude who reckons that he is the son of god. And that he has come to save all mankind from their sins. Then beats a hasty retreat back to heaven, never to be seen again.

#29 | Posted by Sord at 2014-05-01 08:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

The 1st Amendment protects us from government abridging our freedom of speech. Government had nothing to do with what happened to Sterling.
#19 | Posted by JeffJ

Congratulations, you've won the "smartest right-winger of the day" award.
Your prize is explaining the Constitution to your brethren.
This will help:
www.crayola.com

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-05-01 11:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's only a matter of time before that will happen here.

No, it isn't, because we have the First Amendment.

#8 | Posted by rcade at 2014-04-30 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag

Tell that to Mr. sterling

#31 | Posted by danv at 2014-05-01 11:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's only a matter of time before that will happen here.

You loons are on a roll today.

#1 | Posted by 726 at 2014-04-29 12:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

why do think it cant happen here, when it happens all over the world. Do think Americans are some how immune to tyranny? The government has its hands in everything we do. Everything is tracked, monitored, and stored. Wake up!

#32 | Posted by danv at 2014-05-01 11:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Everything is tracked, monitored, and stored. Wake up!

You might want to check your tin foil hat.

Tell that to Mr. sterling

The basketball guy with foot in mouth disease? Is there a new development where Congress has enacted a law that interferes with him exposing his stupidity? If so, you too should beware.

#33 | Posted by et_al at 2014-05-01 11:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you read Mark Twain aloud these days, you can lose your NBA franchise.

#34 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-05-02 12:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

**** "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions,set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
-Thomas Paine "The Age Of Reason"

p.s. I imagine you'd also be arrested for quoting Mr.Paine.. or I guess these days for quoting against or especially advocating against fascism!

#35 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-05-02 01:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

This thread is a perfect illustration of US superiority over Europe: The freedom of speech is a right that our government cannot abridge.

To the best of my knowledge, no European country protects speech as a matter of National Charter to the extent that our Constitution restrains our elected officials.

#36 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-02 01:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

Tell that to the clippers owner.

I'm going to stage an intervention here.

You have been on the Retort long enough to be told a dozen times or more that the First Amendment only restricts the government. It has nothing to do with a private entity like the NBA choosing to punish one of its own for things he said.

Anyone who makes the argument you did is holding up a giant sign that reads "I know NOTHING about the First Amendment."

Please figure this out. If you go to work today and say something offensive, your boss can fire you for it. And when you go to a lawyer and claim your First Amendment rights were violated, the Constitution will laugh in your face.

#37 | Posted by rcade at 2014-05-02 07:48 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

BINGO Rcade! You all that didn't get that before have now completed The First Amendment 101.

#38 | Posted by path at 2014-05-02 09:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

this is nothing...we just had a man lose one of his businesses and was fined and is being humiliated in public because he told his girlfriend in his house IN PRIVATE that he didn't want her seeing black men.

Then he should never have signed that contract with the NBA, should he? What part of freedom of speech actually means freedom from responsibility or consequences?

And I understand you career civil servants never do understand private sector contracts and whatnot. Or, apparently, marital fidelity...

#39 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-05-02 09:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

This thread is a perfect illustration of US superiority over Europe: The freedom of speech is a right that our government cannot abridge.

#36 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-05-02 01:32 AM | Reply |

Give us time----we're catching up to Europe in other areas.

#40 | Posted by matsop at 2014-05-02 09:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

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