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Tuesday, April 29, 2014

On World Book Night in Meridian, Idaho, police were called on a high school student and bookstore workers who were handing out copies of The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian by Sherman Alexie. The police determined nothing illegal was going on. Brady Kissel, a 17-year-old student at Junior Mountain View High, had gotten 350 signatures for a petition to protest the book's removal from the reading list. A fundraising drive bought 350 copies of the book for the students who signed Kissel's petition. "I am honored by the hundreds of Meridian students who showed incredible passion and courage for books," said Alexie.

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I haven't read the book, but judging from the reviews of the book found elsewhere, there is a small and probably vocal minority that see it negatively and why it shouldn't be read.

#1 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-04-29 11:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

Brilliant protest by kid and bookstore. Somebody called the POLICE about someone handing out a BOOK? Wow.

By all reports I've heard (from people who have actually read and who are open-minded), this is a great book. FTR, the school has a right to make its own decisions, and the people who feel otherwise have a right to protest those decisions. Welcome to America.

And btw, oh my God. The upset parents agitated to have the book removed from a SUPPLEMENTAL reading list? WHAT?! Teachers can't even talk about it or recommend it? That's DUMB. I understand agitating to not require the reading of a text that offends you. Wow. Isn't this nanny state-ism by rwers? (To go out on a limb, lefties don't generally protest book availability or suggestions...)

#2 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-04-29 12:05 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Haven't read the book but did read the short description of the story and I am just guessing here but I suspect the objections to the book have to do with descriptions in the story of prejudice from white people directed at the Native American author when he attended the all white high school in a farm town near his reservation. Those folks don't like to be reminded of the bigotry and hatred which has been so common in many parts of the country.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2014-04-29 12:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

To go out on a limb, lefties don't generally protest book availability or suggestions

Unless of course, it's the bible.

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2014-04-29 12:27 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Unless of course, it's the bible.

#4 | Posted by boaz

We don't want to ban the bible, we just want you to decide which parts are meant to be obeyed and which parts you're happy to ignore.

#5 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-04-29 12:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

"To go out on a limb, lefties don't generally protest book availability or suggestions"
Unless of course, it's the bible.
#4 | Posted by boaz at 2014-04-29 12:27 PM

You are WRONG as ALWAYS:

MULBERRY, Fla. -- A Florida pastor set fire to more than 2,000 Bibles that he believed to be Qurans before authorities could extinguish the flames and arrest him.

According to the Polk County Sheriff's Office, Rev. Terry Jones and his associate pastor, Marvin Sapp Jr., set out to burn 2,998 Qurans, one for every victim of the 9/11 attacks. The two men were arrested Wednesday on felony charges as they drove a 1998 Chevrolet pickup truck "towing a large barbecue-style grill filled with Qurans soaked in kerosene."

Sheriff's officials said that the trailer caught fire as the truck was being towed. After the fire department extinguished the flames, a closer examination revealed that the books, which were stacked inside highly flammable cardboard boxes, were actually Bibles.

"We don't condone the burning of any religion's holy book," said Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd, "but we were absolutely sickened to discover that Pastor Jones reduced a couple thousand Christian Bibles to ashes."

While Jones was not available for comment, Frann Ingram, a spokeswoman for his Dove World Outreach Center, said that Jones ordered copies of the Muslim holy book wholesale from Amazon. "They were supposed to arrive on the 10th, but they were a day late. We were in a hurry, and we didn't check inside the boxes."

"I've been praying for God's forgiveness non-stop since this happened," said Ingram.
"I still feel like the Muslims are partially to blame for this. If we didn't have to protest them, this wouldn't have happened. They tricked us!"

While there is no law against burning Bibles or Qurans, Jones and Sapp were charged with unlawful conveyance of fuel and several traffic violations.

Opponents of Jones's evangelical church hope that his arrest will prevent future anti-Muslim protests. His congregation burned the Quran in March 2011, and last year he promoted an anti-Muslim film. Both incidents sparked violence in the Middle East and Afghanistan.
The remaining Bibles are being held as evidence until the case is resolved, and authorities say that six boxes of Bibles remain completely unscathed. "I think those six boxes are miracles," said Sheriff Judd. "Proof that He will protect His word to the best of His ability."

#6 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-04-29 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

the only reason the bible is handed out for free is because no one would actually pay for it anyway.

anyway, who would want to spend money on a book where the lives and motives of the main characters are never fully developed?

#7 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-04-29 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

I love how GiantRobot finds one nutjob and then acts as if said nutjob is a microchosm of all of those with whom he disagrees.

It's childish and intellectually-lazy.

#8 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-04-29 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

If he'd been packing heat the cops may have left him alone.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2014-04-29 12:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

4: Wrong again. Only very angry atheists want to ban the Bible. The rest of us are fine with it. Pretty much every liberal and every atheist I know personally is a "Believe what you want" kind of person.

As for schools, if that's what you were getting at, we don't teach it but if you wanna read it on your own time, that's up to you. I've never heard of someone creating a movement to remove Bibles from a suggested reading list or from a school library. Have you? Or is this just your usual Christian persecution folderol?

#10 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-04-29 12:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

the only reason the bible is handed out for free is because no one would actually pay for it anyway.

#7 | Posted by NerfHerder

We bought three.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2014-04-29 12:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

In fact, I teach The Inferno in one of my classes! And I've been known to have them read the Book of Job. No one has ever complained. Hell, I've had kids read about Buddhism and Hinduism, and even the very serious People of Faith have never complained. It's amazing, really, that children just want to think sometimes, to be exposed to different ideas and be allowed to talk about them.

#12 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-04-29 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

To go out on a limb, lefties don't generally protest book availability or suggestions
Unless of course, it's the bible.

#4 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2014-04-29 12:27 PM | FLAG:

The Bible is an excellent work of fiction.

#13 | Posted by 726 at 2014-04-29 12:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

The same morans that complain about the Bible not being taught in public schools would have a hysterical meltdown of epic proportions if the Quaran was being taught.

#14 | Posted by 726 at 2014-04-29 12:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Pretty much....every atheist I know personally is a "Believe what you want" kind of person. "

I have faith you're right and that the hateful ones on who are so common the net are a minority.

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2014-04-29 12:51 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

www.thefire.org

#16 | Posted by FEARTHEKOOLAID at 2014-04-29 12:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

I haven't read the book and I don't know the people but, I'll take a stab at it anyway. Hate, White, Bigots, Racist-Danni

#17 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-04-29 01:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

I'm an atheist, and I suppose a bit left, and I have 3 bibles in my house ("New World Translation" - The JW bible, "King James" - The popular bible, "New American Standard" - a literal translation), a book of Mormon, Egyptian Book of the dead, books on Greek Myths, Books on Norse Myths, Hindi Ramayana, Quran, Wiccan texts, Kabballistic works by A.Crowley, but all anyone ever wants to borrow are my Stephen King novels, or every now and then a couple Lovecraft stories (until they realize how much they have to work at reading it for so little of the gore they expect). After seeing my small collection, I've had a few people dump their old unwanted religious texts off on me after they are over the fad, The Secret, I actually got a Dianetics last year. I try to loan then out to people, they just don't want them.

#18 | Posted by blah at 2014-04-29 01:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

I love how GiantRobot finds one nutjob and then acts as if said nutjob is a microchosm of all of those with whom he disagrees.
It's childish and intellectually-lazy.
#8 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-04-29 12:39 PM

The Texas Board of Ejimacation includes creationism - that was protested because it's a religious concept and not scientifically sound. That's the very reason they want to remove Jefferson - his biblical standard is far too high.

Face facts - the vaaaast majority of book banning are instigated by intellectually challenged religious nutjobs.

On topic: the banning of this book is evidence that bigotry is still re-enforced by religion. Supreme Court be damned.

#19 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-04-29 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Somebody called the POLICE about someone handing out a BOOK? Wow.

#2 | Posted by pragmatist

What has this once great country become?

#20 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-04-29 01:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Face facts - the vaaaast majority of book banning are instigated by intellectually challenged religious nutjobs.

I don't disagree with that. Maybe I was still reacting to your comment in that other thread where you stated that this scumbag GOP pol is the face of the entire TP GOP, FBI, etc.

#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-04-29 01:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

What has this once great country become?

#20 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-04-29 01:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why would anyone be surprised when you hear about little girls getting their lemonade stand shut down b/c they don't have a permit?

#22 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-04-29 01:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Face facts - the vaaaast majority of book banning are instigated by intellectually challenged religious nutjobs."
I don't disagree with that. Maybe I was still reacting to your comment in that other thread where you stated that this scumbag GOP pol is the face of the entire TP GOP, FBI, etc.
#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-04-29 01:33 PM

Actually, that is precisely what I am intimating, so you did get the right argument, only missing the reality of the tone. Self-professed "social conservatives" is a much more accurate umbrella.

But hearing how Grimm actually abused police to create a racially-motivated lineup is quite telling of FBI.

Where is the book-burning, or book protests from the "lefties"? They appear to be entirely absent?! Astonishing.

#23 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-04-29 01:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where is the book-burning, or book protests from the "lefties"? They appear to be entirely absent?! Astonishing.

#23 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

The left doesn't burn books but they rabidly censor speech.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-04-29 01:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where is the book-burning, or book protests from the "lefties"? They appear to be entirely absent?! Astonishing.
#23 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT
The left doesn't burn books but they rabidly censor speech.
#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-04-29 01:45 PM

WHAT?! You need to get on the right pills - censoring speech is "SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE" behavior, ie REPUBLICAN SCUM.

#25 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-04-29 01:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

#25 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

I didn't realize that those who run the universities were social conservatives.

Bring in an anti-abortion sign? Have it ripped out of your hands by a professor.

Try giving a speech as a conservative? Get shouted down and have food thrown at you.

You're a woman's rights activist who produces a movie about the harsh treatment of women within the Muslim community? Have your movie pulled from campus and your honorary degree revoked.

Cite a study that cites biological differences as the reason that men vastly outperform women in certain fields? Get censured by the faculty.

PC speech codes are a creation of the left. They are rabidly enforced by the left.

censoring speech is "LEFTIST" behavior, ie DEMOCRATIC SCUM.

#26 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-04-29 01:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Isn't this nanny state-ism by rwers? (To go out on a limb, lefties don't generally protest book availability or suggestions...)

#2 | Posted by pragmatist

Wow, you have your left and right mixed up.

#27 | Posted by Marty at 2014-04-29 02:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Try giving a speech as a conservative? Get shouted down and have food thrown at you.

#26 | Posted by JeffJ

Wahhh! I want to have hate speech without consequence! Wahhhhh!

Wahhh! It's not fair that people get mad when I publicly recommend giving tax cuts to rich people and cutting services to everyone else! They're PC police! Wahhhhh!

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-04-29 04:11 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Try giving a speech as a conservative? Get shouted down and have food thrown at you.
#26 | Posted by JeffJ
Wahhh! I want to have hate speech without consequence! Wahhhhh!
Wahhh! It's not fair that people get mad when I publicly recommend giving tax cuts to rich people and cutting services to everyone else! They're PC police! Wahhhhh!

#28 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Take another toke.

#29 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-04-29 04:12 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

27: No, I don't.

#30 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-04-29 04:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why would anyone be surprised when you hear about little girls getting their lemonade stand shut down b/c they don't have a permit?

#22 | Posted by Dalton

Now there is a bill to outlaw hate speech on the net and TV. If the dems push that thru we are going to have to change our ways here on the DR nooner.

#31 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-04-29 09:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

the only reason the bible is handed out for free is because no one would actually pay for it anyway.

#7 | Posted by NerfHerder

actually I also own 3 Bibles and I am planing to buy the latest translation of the New American Bible

#32 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-04-29 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

"the only reason the bible is handed out for free is because no one would actually pay for it anyway."

Clearly you've never been to a auction of historic goods.

#33 | Posted by Tor at 2014-04-29 09:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

(To go out on a limb, lefties don't generally protest book availability or suggestions...)

So it was right wingers who wanted some of Twain's works removed from school shelves (or modified) because of his use of the N word?

Interesting. I would have guessed otherwise if pressed to assign a political affiliation to those wanting this to happen.

#34 | Posted by goatman at 2014-04-29 11:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

the only reason the bible is handed out for free is because no one would actually pay for it anyway.

#7 | Posted by NerfHerder

We bought three.

#11 | POSTED BY ZED

How odd. Why would someone buy more than one copy of the same book? Why not just buy one and read it three times?

#35 | Posted by goatman at 2014-04-29 11:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

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