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Tuesday, April 29, 2014

More than 4 percent of inmates sentenced to death in the United States are probably innocent, according to a study published Monday that sent shock waves across the anti-death penalty community. What the researchers call a "conservative estimate" about the number of wrongfully convicted death row inmates is more than double the percentage of capital defendants who were exonerated during more than three decades that were studied. That means innocent people are languishing behind bars, according to the study.

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Wasn't there another thread about this just 30 minutes ago? Where did THAT one run off to?

#1 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-04-29 10:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

'Probably' - such a definitive word. None could question the validity of this study.

#2 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-04-29 12:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Probably

#3 | Posted by rearendhat at 2014-04-29 01:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Math don't go 'round here!" - rwingers

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2014-04-29 01:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

I'm pretty sure people will accept this level of uncertainty. When it gets up to 1 in 2 inmates, then it will be a story.

#5 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-04-29 06:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

So hurry up and run a DNA test on all we can.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2014-04-29 07:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm pretty sure people will accept this level of uncertainty. When it gets up to 1 in 2 inmates, then it will be a story.

#5 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Probably.

Makes me wonder about Blackstone's "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer". Means a lot of guilty persons have escaped.

#7 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-04-29 07:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

If 1 in 100 persons executed is actually innocent that should be enough to justify ending the death penalty. EVen if it were 1 in 1000. I even one innocent person is executed it destroys any belief that the death penalty is justice.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2014-04-29 07:11 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The real problem is that the death penalty mill states such as Texas and Virginia and the Carolinas provide next to $0 for criminal defense attorneys via their public defender systems. In contrast, a typical DP case in California requires 2 defense attorneys, @ two years of preparation and a cost of about $500,000 for the defense costs alone. When you have that level of scrutiny, you get a lot fewer innocent people receiving the dp.

#9 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-04-29 07:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

The last time that Rhode Island executed-hung someone was in 1846, 168 years ago, they hung an innocent man who's only crime was that he was Irish. Rhode Island is also the ONLY state of the 48 continental states that never lynched a black person with-out a trial

Sammy in Arizona (were the state murders folks)
and Rhode Island (the greatest little state in the union)

#10 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-04-29 07:48 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"The real problem is that the death penalty mill states such as Texas and Virginia"
#9 | Posted by moder8

NO the real problem is the death penalty it self, it needs to be abolished

#11 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-04-29 08:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

We need to get rid of the death penalty. Other than Japan and China, the only places where it is still practiced are the boorish cultures associated with Islam.

#12 | Posted by ElMartini at 2014-04-29 09:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

The argument that the innocent get incorrectly caught up in the legal process is undeniable.

But that is not reason to stop the legal process from pursuing ACTUAL justice.

Argument to improve the process of pursuing actual justice? Absolutely. Argument to stop pursuing actual justice? Not at all.

If you are not doing all that can be done to KILL scum like Charlie Manson and all the other brutal killers that have existed, then you don't give a damn about justice.

And remember: Justice, Law and Order are three different thing that have no natural tendency to be related. EFFORT by good men to balance them with each other results in a better society. Even then, Justice, Law and Order CONFLICT with each other, and letting any of the three get too powerful or too weak causes problems (For example, the incarnation of absolute focus on Justice without regard to Law and Order is the Lynch Mob....).

#13 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-04-30 12:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

If you are not doing all that can be done to KILL scum like Charlie Manson and all the other brutal killers that have existed, then you don't give a damn about justice.
#13 | Posted by USAF242

If you give a damn about justice, killing innocent people should be the #1 thing you want to avoid.

The #1 thing.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-04-30 03:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

that should be enough to justify ending the death penalty

You are playing fast and loose with someone else's justice. I still cant see ending the death penalty. If someone killed a family member of mine, especially a close family member, especially if they were raped or tortured, I would want the death penalty. You don't get to question that. That "justice" is mine alone. And justice is something we are promised in this country.

#15 | Posted by boaz at 2014-04-30 08:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

If you give a damn about justice, killing innocent people should be the #1 thing you want to avoid.

I don't agree, of course. You are looking at it from a community prospective, as liberals always do. I would want things settled, and for some crimes, life in prison settles nothing.

#16 | Posted by boaz at 2014-04-30 08:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Math don't go 'round here!" - rwingers

#4 | Posted by Corky

WTF does 'Probably' have to with math?

They should 'Probably' execute the ones that are guilty beyond any doubt in less than a year and 'Probably' punish the authorities that have witheld evidence that would prove someone to be innocent.

#17 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-04-30 11:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The four authors reviewed the outcomes of the 7,482 death sentences handed down from 1973 to 2004. Of that group, 117, or 1.6 percent, were exonerated.

But with enough time and resources, the authors concluded that at least 4.1 percent of death row inmates would have been exonerated. In other words, more than 200 other prisoners would have been cleared during those three decades."

Math.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2014-04-30 11:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

and for some crimes, life in prison settles nothing.

#16 | Posted by boaz

Not when you consider how good many have it in prison. Old Joe needs to be put in charg of our prison system. He would get rid of all the frills that we have now.

#19 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-04-30 11:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Frills? You have no clue what you are talking about. You are just spewing rightwing myths and talking points.

#20 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-04-30 11:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

Half of Death Row Inmates Probably Innocent

Corrected for accuracy.

The department of corrections is an economic sanction(class warfare).

#21 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-04-30 12:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

You are looking at it from a community prospective, as liberals always do. I would want things settled, and for some crimes, life in prison settles nothing.
#16 | Posted by boaz

I'm looking at it from a societal perspective, as people who aren't mind-numbingly selfish do.

Boaz, is your love of the death penalty so strong that you'd see your own child mistakenly executed?

Since you can't seem to think past yourself or your family, perhaps answering that question will be informative.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-04-30 03:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Math.

#18 | Posted by Corky

First part of the article.......are probably innocent. What kind of math is that?

"More than 4 percent of inmates sentenced to death in the United States are probably innocent,"

#23 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-04-30 08:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Frills? You have no clue what you are talking about. You are just spewing rightwing myths and talking points.

#20 | Posted by moder8

CRAP............. Come down to Phoneix and see what a jail should look like.

#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-04-30 08:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

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