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Dutch speedskating coach Jillert Anema, fresh off his country winning 21 of its 22 medals in that sport at the Sochi Games, has a unique theory for why the U.S. wasn't as successful in that competition: "You have a lot of attention for foolish sport, like American football. You waste a lot of talent, athletic talent, in a sport where it's meant to kill each other, to injure each other. ? And when you compete once every four years, with talent, with a few lone wolves, who are skating, you can't beat the world, it's no way. [The US.]. is so narrow-minded, and you waste a lot of good talent in a sport that sucks."

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"You have a lot of attention for foolish sport"

Is mocking Holland like beating on a kid in a wheelchair?

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2014-02-23 09:26 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Hij kan gaan [bleepen] zelf.

#2 | Posted by madscientist at 2014-02-23 09:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Like everything bad for your health, there is a conspiracy to cover it up in this country for profits. So it was with Lead in gasoline, tobacco, radiation poisoning. Profits before humans is State & Corporate policy. The NFL suffers from this same disease. But all sport includes risk, not just football. The players perform a vital function, entertaining us during a period of decline, like Rome's gladiators. I can't help it, I still like football.

Europe has a love hate relationship with us. Still grateful from saving them from themselves during WWII. Unable to criticize our imperialism, which we learned from them. At times jealous of our persistent excellence.
At times condescending of our values and ignorance.

#3 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-02-23 10:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Go home and smoke a fatty, Hans Brinker.

#4 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-23 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Anema is still mad about his smelting accident.

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#5 | Posted by Tor at 2014-02-23 10:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Speed skating is okay but I think I've seen enough to last me for four more years.

#6 | Posted by bruceaz at 2014-02-23 10:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

I suppose he has a point, in that speed skating has a lot of events for medals in the Olympics. Seems to me that's how Russia came out in front. One hot skater can get 5 gold medals by his/herself.

Being Canadian, we do hockey and curling. From that, we got four gold medals but sent about 60 players.

I wonder what speed skaters do for the other three years?

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-02-23 10:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Come on back after the Summer Olympics from Rio coach and we'll compare Olympic medals at that time. The winter Olympics are great, I love to watch them but they are absolutely not a venue for the greatest athletes of the world to compete, they are a venue for many of the richer countries who happen to be in northern climate zones to compete with each other. The Summer Olympics has sports for the entire world and is thus, IMHO, a more important Olympics.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2014-02-23 11:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

>> You have a lot of attention for foolish sport, like American football.

He's right.

American football, the most popular sport here, imo, is little more than a meat grinder that indoctrinates young boys in grade school and spits them out in their 40's so they can live a short life as their loved ones see them slowly die from brain damage.

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2014-02-23 11:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Given we won more medals than they did overall, this guy can -------.

I wonder what the number look like in the summer olympics.

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Exactly.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2014-02-23 11:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

meh who cares it's just trash talk. America just can't trash talk back because America has no moral ground to do so.

#11 | Posted by pragmatous at 2014-02-24 12:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama: Nuke them.

#12 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-24 12:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's pretty funny considering that rwingers foreign policy for the last 50 years had been one thing only: "Nuke 'em. It'll teach 'em a lesson!".

Well, until Obama.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-24 12:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Your strained premise to make a 'joke' belies your struggle to socialize, Corky. Suffice it to say I do not agree with nuking people. Okay?
Back to Coast-to-Coast radio with you now.

#14 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-24 01:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'd rather have football.

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-02-24 08:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

Football the national -----------?

Who knew?

Only everyone in the world.

#16 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-02-24 09:10 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

This guy acts like speed skating is something more than a niche sport. Most people pay attention to speed skating once every four years.

The rest of the world doesn't care about the NFL and we don't give a crap.

The entire world doesn't care about speed skating.

Really most winter olympic sports are sports for rich kids who don't want to have to compete with the masses for a spot on team in more accessible sports -especially those that involve physical contact.

#17 | Posted by sully at 2014-02-24 09:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

#17 | POSTED BY SULLY

A vast majority of the winter Olympic sports are individual competitions, or paired competitions.

It's one thing for an individual to compete in unison and not directly against another. It's quite different for a "team" of athletes to compete in harmony against another team of athletes.

#18 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-02-24 09:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

"A vast majority of the winter Olympic sports are individual competitions, or paired competitions."

If mommy and/or daddy can pay for the ice time and the private coach, you can participate in one of these "sports" growing up. The barrier to entry is money, not ability (at least initially). If you're very good then you get to go on ot the Olympics.

My point is: Let's not pretend these are sports that are open to the majority of the people in the world, like say the running events in the Summer Olympics are. How many people around the world luge? How many people have even seen a luge course? For that matter: How many public schools around the world have speed skating teams? The pool of talent that competes in these events is tiny compared to other sports. For a speed skating coach to pretend that his sport is more legitimate than any other sport is ludicrous. Its a niche event for rich kids.

#19 | Posted by Sully at 2014-02-24 09:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The barrier to entry is money, not ability (at least initially)" - Sully

I disagree somewhat you are looking at it from our perspective, it is a barrier in warmer climates, or middle latitudes. But in the northern climates where its cold and the winters are longer, its not, the poor have pretty much the same access to ice as the rich. Ability at this level is attained through practice and time working on the sport.

"Let's not pretend these are sports that are open to the majority of the people in the world, like say the running events in the Summer Olympics are. " - Sully

Think about this statement some, does someone that lives in a place that has cold winters 7 months of the year have the same access to the summer sports? Not really.

Where do a majority of people live? near the equator or the poles? Your view and logic is centered on where a majority of people live, and thus has alot of built in assumptions.

I believe a truer statement would be "Lets not pretend that in the US people have the same access to winter sports"

#20 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-02-24 11:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

If the point the Dutch coach is making is that football is an uber violent sport, he will get no argument from most Americans. That's one big reason so many people find football so entertaining.

#21 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-02-24 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Does he know we have drones?

#22 | Posted by tiger150 at 2014-02-24 12:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

#3, #9, #16....So many football haters out and about on this thread. Want to see their heads explode?

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#23 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-02-24 12:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

"But in the northern climates where its cold and the winters are longer, its not, the poor have pretty much the same access to ice as the rich. Ability at this level is attained through practice and time working on the sport."

Maybe for speed skating. I don't know enough about it to know if you need a rink or if it you can really compete on a frozen pond. For the judged events, you still need a private coach spending many hours with you and most kids are not going to have access to that unless they are somehow identified as being extremely gifted early on. The sliding events are still limited access too.

In any case, those climates are less populous so we're still talking about a reduced talent pool compared to summer events.

"Think about this statement some, does someone that lives in a place that has cold winters 7 months of the year have the same access to the summer sports? Not really."

Is cold weather a disadvantage? Sure. B But its certainly not impossible to run track in cold weather countries. Its literally impossible to ski in many countries unless you have access to a private indoor facility.

"Where do a majority of people live? near the equator or the poles? Your view and logic is centered on where a majority of people live, and thus has alot of built in assumptions."

Not at all. There are zero assumptions. We know how many people compete in these all these events. Its a known fact that less people compete in winter events than summer events. Winter Olympians are at the stop of the talent pool for their sports but its a significantly smaller talent pool.

To pretend that speed skating is some kind of big time sport is ludiscrous and that is what this coach is doing.

#24 | Posted by Sully at 2014-02-24 12:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sully;

If you live in a cold weather country there is plenty of used equipment and city programming out there. In Canada every kid plays hockey at one level or another. Everyone skates at some point. Everyone skis at some point. We also did curling in school. I may have been too young to notice kids who were left out, but I don't recall any that couldn't pick up a used set of skates or borrow some.

#25 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-02-24 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you live in a cold weather country there is plenty of used equipment and city programming out there. In Canada every kid plays hockey at one level or another. Everyone skates at some point. Everyone skis at some point. We also did curling in school. I may have been too young to notice kids who were left out, but I don't recall any that couldn't pick up a used set of skates or borrow some.

#25 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-02-24 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

How many countries would this be true about?

And in those countries, doesn't everyone also run a foot race at some point too?

My point that the summer games are more accessible and have more people worldwide competing is still valid. I may have been a little broad in saying that winter events are generally "for rich people". There are probably some events that are accessible to everyone in limited part of the world. But I would bet that even in countries where "everyone skis", alpine racers and figure skaters still aren't coming from the lower class.

#26 | Posted by Sully at 2014-02-24 01:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

i have never speed skated...

but i must admit, i have skated while on speed...

#27 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-02-24 01:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

I bet it's true for the countries that did well in the Olympics.

#28 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-02-24 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why is the cost of ice hockey in Canada usually the first reason given when the discussion of declining Canadian dominance in hockey is brought up (obviously you're still número UNO, but I watch enough hnic to know this discussion is happening)?

Ice time, equipment, and travel hockey are expensive. Nobody playing house league is making the show.

#29 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-02-24 01:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

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#30 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-02-24 01:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's weird. I just copied and pasted a globe and mail article and that above link showed up. It was a link I posted here months ago...

#31 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-02-24 01:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.theglobeandmail.com

#32 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-02-24 01:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

i once dated an african-american who was born amsterdam...

i called her "dutch cocoa"

she was hot and sweet.

and i ruined it all by acting like a cracked mug...

#33 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-02-24 02:09 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Acting?

#34 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-24 05:02 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

That coach has a lot of nerve. The Dutch can't win anything other than speed skating.

I suggest a grudge match between the US and Dutch hockey teams to settle this matter.

#35 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-02-24 05:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why is the cost of ice hockey in Canada usually the first reason given when the discussion of declining Canadian dominance in hockey is brought up

Because it's kind of true. There's a whole lifestyle associated with playing at a higher level. It involves a lot of travel and for some parents that's not easy to do. Everyone plays at first. If you're good, then you can get some help with the costs. Overall, I'd say that everyone can play at a low level and then the commitment has to be made if you want to move on. Some families are very dedicated.

#36 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-02-24 08:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bruce is right. Read Punch Imlach's autobiography "Hockey is a Battle" for an insight. In fact, that wonderful book records a Canada that is now gone, with coal stoves on the trolleys at 3 a.m. as the unknown player goes to the rink for practice...

#37 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-24 10:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

team USA came up small, very small. Conditions, though, we're far from ideal.

#38 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-25 01:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

The half pipe....which was shaped more like a bathtubs, was the worst I've ever seen.

#39 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-25 01:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

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