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American carriers do a solid job providing coverage with their LTE networks, but when it comes to speed, ATNT, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile have a hard time keeping up with the rest of the world. U.S. carriers average the second-slowest speed among LTE networks worldwide, according to a "State of LTE" report by OpenSignal, a company that makes an app that helps users find areas with the best network coverage. The report looked at LTE network performance in the second half of 2013. Compared to 2012, U.S. LTE networks suffered the largest decline, with the average speed falling from 9.6 Mbps to 6.5 Mbps. Japan and Australia, meanwhile, saw the speeds of their LTE networks improve drastically.

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Mobile networks do not remain constant, with operators constantly rolling out to new areas and making improvements to their network," the report said. "On the other side of the coin, increased users combat these improvements, as increased network load brings down average speeds.

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The Free Market is really a POS.

#1 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-02-21 04:36 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

As number 2, I'm sure US companies will try harder.

But they'll still be number 2. If you know what I mean.

#2 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-21 04:41 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Probably paid off by the ISP's not to reveal what crap their service is to the ignorant consumer.

#3 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-02-21 07:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Top 1% of users use 1/2 of the bandwidth...
www.nytimes.com

Smartphone penetration in Japan is at 30%, Aus -37-51%, the US is 60-74%.

I would say US carriers are doing a good job given the burden and coverage.....

#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-02-21 08:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

You really need to get better sources, AM.

Japan smartphone penetration..."rising from 27.7% penetration in 2012 to 41.7% in 2013. That figure is projected to jump again to 60.2% in 2014."

www.emarketer.com

#5 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-21 08:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

"By some measures, Australia is the top major smartphone market globally: With 22 million inhabitants Australia has a smaller population than other major mobile markets such as the United States, South Korea, and the United Kingdom, but it has higher rates of smart device ownership. Smartphone penetration of the Australian mobile subscriber base has exploded to an estimated 84% in 2013 from just 19% penetration in 2007, according to the Australian Mobile Phone Lifestyle Index."

www.businessinsider.com.au

#6 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-21 08:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

I work for a wireless carrier. I know a lot about this topic and seeing the download speeds for LTE in the western N.C. area, it's a lot higher than 6 meg. LTE is getting in more and more places (It's not everywhere).

#7 | Posted by boaz at 2014-02-21 08:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Free Market is really a POS.
#1 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Yeah. That's right. People shouldn't be free. They're too stupid to decide what's best for themselves. They need enlightened public servants to tell what they can and cannot buy. Give despotism a chance.

#8 | Posted by Ray at 2014-02-21 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

I work for a wireless carrier.Boaz...You got your 90 days in yet,:-)

#9 | Posted by bruceaz at 2014-02-21 08:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Boaz, do you even bother to read the fine article?

#10 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-22 11:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

Boaz, do you even bother to read the fine article? #10 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-22 11:50 AM

Looks like Harry wants to pass the torch. :)

#11 | Posted by censored at 2014-02-22 07:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

You got your 90 days in yet

No, but it's coming up fast. I have never worked in wireless, which is totally different from Server based IT, which is where I come from..

Boaz, do you even bother to read the fine article?

No.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2014-02-22 07:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

The much smaller size [both in square miles and population] allow many countries allow to develop an internet infrastructure that is difficult for us to emulate.

#13 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-02-22 07:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Without America's Free Market you'd still be talking through a tin can connected by string to your mom's tin can.

#14 | Posted by lel2007 at 2014-02-22 08:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

It was in the 1980s when the USA telecommunications were considered the indisputable champs rated number one in the world.

While technology has changed in the interim, the real reason we have lost ground is because the Reagan DOJ and their hired hand Judge Green who broke up the Bell System, and sent millions of US jobs and Bell Labs technology to China and Alcatel France.

The rest is history and we squabble like little fools about how America was lost by the unions or other stupid stuff.

It was lost because of the likes of those like Judge Green and many others who made policy that had greedy banker friends on Wall St, that put the USA 2nd or 3rd.

#15 | Posted by Robson at 2014-02-22 08:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bell Labs
Good thing those boys at Bell Labs were trying to make an FET.

The demise of the American corporate research lab is a complicated subject; In my experience it comes down to thinking hiring a large number of grad students at a large number of universities is cheaper than hiring the smartest geeks and paying them well.

And what happened to TI?
First single crystal silicon; Physics Nobel for the IC; Sad.

#16 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2014-02-22 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

So what article is a bunch of garbage you want a higher LTE speed build it yourself better yet why don't you have Obama mandate that there be higher speed the Dr left is ignorant as the day is long

#17 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-23 09:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's because other countries have socialized cell towers which lowers capital costs and put in place regulations to prevent gouging for texting and data.

#18 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-02-23 09:36 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The fastest was T-Mobile? How did they test it, I could never get a signal on T-Mobile. I guess it was fast those few times I could use it.

Dave the article says nothing about Obama doing squat it is simply a report on average speeds across the nation.

Personally I rarely use LTE usually I am at home hooked into my network or work or school hooked into theirs I only need LTE for sitting at the stoplights between networks and I am not exactly trying to stream the gold metal hockey game while driving.

#19 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2014-02-23 09:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The much smaller size [both in square miles and population] allow many countries blah blah blah"

#13 | POSTED BY MSGT

If you knew anything about it, service is considerably WORSE in large U.S. urban areas due to the infrastructure being maxed out by too many subscribers.

#20 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-23 12:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's no joke about T-Mobile. They do have the smallest network yet, so I don't have this on every part of the highway while commuting, but a recent speed test I did was hitting 34Mbps. My Comcast high speed internet, which I believe is supposed to be 45 only logged in at 25. Fail. I hate Comcast though. Stuck with them at the apartment I live in, and they're so overpriced. The usual complaints. About $200 a month cable bill simply for internet weaker than my phone's data plan and a bunch of channels I don't ever watch simply so I can have all the science, history, and news channels, plus HBO. And honestly, if I could get HBOGO without a cable subscription, I'd probably drop the entire thing. Especially since I regularly come across news about cable companies trying to find ways to tier data consumption.

#21 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-02-23 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Free Market is really a POS. - bruce banner

Are you going to back that stupid statement up? So the free market is a POS because we don't have the fastest internet speed, that doesn't even make sense.

After its initial development,the free market gave the world the internet. Get a clue Bruce.

#22 | Posted by danv at 2014-02-23 02:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Are you going to back that stupid statement up?

Yes. Leave your Mother's basement and see it inaction.

#23 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-02-23 06:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's because other countries have socialized cell towers which lowers capital costs and put in place regulations to prevent gouging for texting and data.
#18 | POSTED BY NUTCASE

Now if only there was a way to put an end to tax gouging. Civil war? Revolution?

#24 | Posted by Ray at 2014-02-23 06:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

I so love hearing horror stories about comcast since they bought time warner and I will be stuck with them soon. TWC sucks enough I don't want to get worse.

I just read that Google Fiber might be coming to my town with their next expansion so that could be awesome. Gigabit internet and 150 channel TV with DVR for 120 a month.

I just switched from T-Mobile to Verizon and it is a bit slower but not so bad that it is noticeable for most of what I do. Since I now have much better coverage it is a trade off I can deal with.

#25 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2014-02-23 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag:


Without America's Free Market you'd still be talking through a tin can connected by string to your mom's tin can.

#14 | Posted by lel2007

Without significant subsidization many rural areas would still be on party lines or have no service at all.

#26 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-02-23 08:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Communication is a natural monopoly, like the mail, water, sewer and power. As such the free market model does not apply. The most efficient least cost systems take advantage of this fact.

#27 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-02-23 10:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Communication is a natural monopoly,

???

No, judge Greene made sure it wasn't when he ordered the divestiture of AT&T in the early '80s

#28 | Posted by goatman at 2014-02-23 10:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, all these monopolies are being broken up, to the detriment of consumers, which is the real reason for the breaking up. The official story is that it is good for the consumer, but there is absolutely no evidence to support this lie.

#29 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-02-23 11:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

all these monopolies are being broken up, to the detriment of consumers, which is the real reason for the breaking up.

Wrong on so many levels. First of all "all these monopolies" is an oxymoron. Monopoly means "one". And when that monopoly (AT&T) was broken up, it spurred competition that brought technologies like Asynchronous Transfer Mode, self healing networks, DWDM, SONET, Frame relay, and much more that made the internet and dot com boom possible. Do you really think it is a sheer coincidence that telecom technologies and bandwidth exploded after divestiture? We have high speed internet. It used to cost 35c a minute to call the next state and now you can call anywhere for free with most phone plans. Phones -- have you seen them lately? They do a lot more than the push button Western Electric one your mom had in the kitchen.

How can you say that breaking up the monopoly was detrimental? Can you give some examples, please?

#30 | Posted by goatman at 2014-02-23 11:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

The official story is that it is good for the consumer, but there is absolutely no evidence to support this lie.

You must live under a rock. Free long distance. HS internet. Cable TV. Movies on demand. Banking online. Ordering pizza online. Shopping online. This blog. Web cams so you can watch your house when you're away. Smart phones. Streaming video and music. I could go on and on how the breakup of AT&T's monopoly has changed telecom.

Are you really unaware that these things exist?

Really?

Wow.

#31 | Posted by goatman at 2014-02-23 11:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Are you going to back that stupid statement up? So the free market is a POS because we don't have the fastest internet speed, that doesn't even make sense.

After its initial development,the free market gave the world the internet. Get a clue Bruce.

#22 | Posted by danv

The free market is a POS because socialized countries have faster internet (and better roads, schools, and health care) than the good ol free market "exceptional" USA.

DARPA gave the world the internet. A GOVERNMENT agency. Doesn't get more socialized than that.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-02-24 12:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

DARPA gave the world the internet. A GOVERNMENT agency. Doesn't get more socialized than that.

DARPA is to today's internet what the Wright Brothers' plane is to a jumbo jet. So using your logic, the Wright Brothers built the Airbus 380

#33 | Posted by goatman at 2014-02-24 12:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

dear goat,

I'm talking about speed and price. We pay more for less in spite of the alleged competition. However, recently we have seen some price pressure from T-Mobile. Your presumption that innovation would not occur but for breaking up AT&T is nonsense. Bell Labs prior to the breakup was the source of some of the last centuries greatest discoveries and inventions, including the transistor. Whatever happened to the $12/month landline that always worked? That even included the phone and subsidization of rural service. What do you think is cheaper, towers or running copper to every home in the US? A very important feature of the mail and regulated monopolistic AT&T was that they provide service everywhere in the country. This was once an important Federal mandate.

#34 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-02-24 09:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

In the regulated days, Americans paid less than Europeans for everything and we still do for gas. Today we are gouged for essential services, most importantly health care and prescription drugs, where monopolistic price fixing is the norm. All the promises of better prices and service emerging from competition have not been realized. Chinese imports excepted, but at a horrendous cost to our economy in job losses and the accompanying erosion of our tax base and increased demands on social services.

#35 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-02-24 09:49 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

. Your presumption that innovation would not occur but for breaking up AT&T is nonsense.

???

Nonsense? People used to pay for long distance. Pay a lot, AAMOF. It's free now.

Bell Labs did some wonderful things, true. But without competition they had no incentive to do even better. Along came competition and suddenly telecom technologies exploded. You can't convince a rational person this was coincidental.

It was Sprint (then US Sprint) who built the first coast to coast fiber optic network. Why hadn't AT&T done it yet when they were the only show in town? When they saw the success Sprint had with it (especially winning the lion's share of the coveted FTS 2000 contract in a major upset) THEN and only then did they build theirs.

No, nutcase, the breakup of AT&T undoubtedly spurred telecom competition. There is no denying that.

"We don't have to care. We're the phone company"

Lily Tomlin ca 1975

And it was the truth!

#36 | Posted by goatman at 2014-02-24 10:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

Whatever happened to the $12/month landline that always worked?

Here's what happened to it. Today for about the same price (in adjusted dollars) you now have a phone that can do internet, has call waiting, caller ID, can be taken about anywhere people are and work, watch TV, stream movies, stream music, do complex computing, texts, take pictures and transmit the image to another phone, play games, keep your schedule and calendar, and much more -- for the same price. That's what happened to that landline. Did your pre-divestiture $12/mo landline to these things? LOL

#37 | Posted by goatman at 2014-02-24 11:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's because other countries have socialized cell towers which lowers capital costs and put in place regulations to prevent gouging for texting and data.

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Yup, and outside of zatoichi, just about everything else said in this thread is wrong. So many factual errors that I would have to write a formal paper to correct all the idiocy.

#38 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-02-24 06:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

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