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Sunday, February 16, 2014

Americans are enthusiastic about the promise of science but lack basic knowledge of it, with one in four unaware that the Earth revolves around the Sun, said a poll out Friday. The survey included more than 2,200 people in the United States and was conducted by the National Science Foundation. Fewer than half (48 percent) knew that human beings evolved from earlier species of animals.

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One in four? That has got to be a skewed poll.

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-02-15 08:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let's hear it for our public schools system….

#2 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-02-15 08:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'd like to see a cross reference or a side by side..I'm betting that they're more obama supporting parasites than good ole country boys and girls who don't know this....

#4 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-02-15 08:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

One in three respondents said science should get more funding from the government.

What a surprise. You pay teachers crap and show them no respect, you get what you pay for.

#5 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-02-15 08:59 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

I can tell you WHAT...that teachers would make the same if they did get more respect..

but that's earned too and when the salary draws many people who are not qualified, that respect takes a tumble ....two way street..'catch 22??

#6 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-02-15 09:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

From the comments on the article:

I could see myself being critical of the question and answering that the earth doesn't "circle" around the sun, because it technically has a slight elliptical and wobbly revolution. And you could add that it isn't always the same based on the location of the other planets. Perhaps this quarter percent is actually the well educated answering in a more technical way than a general way since after all it is funded by the NSF and they don't want to look naive in thinking that it follows a path represented by a true circle.

LOL. I'm sure that's the explanation.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-02-15 09:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

" quarter percent "

Fifth grade must have been difficult.

#8 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2014-02-15 09:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

I saw this but have a hard time believing the results. I could have asked 2000 10-year olds and gotten at least 90%, which calls into question either the methodology used or the verbiage of the questions. Were all their subjects from retirement homes and halfway houses for developmentally challenged?

#9 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-02-15 09:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

I knew a guy that argued that the sun wasn't a star...and he meant it.

Nothing surprise's me what people think.

The world is full of good intentioned retards.

rwd

#10 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2014-02-15 09:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Low info in da 'hood

#11 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2014-02-15 09:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

i am interested in the demographic that was polled, too. because i highly doubt this is representative of "Americans." The article does say Earth "revolves" around the sun; but the headline is not incorrect because "to circle" something, as a wolf pack circles their prey, does not intend to describe geometric precision.

#12 | Posted by kenx at 2014-02-16 12:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

More than one-quarter of Democrats thought the government knew about 9/11 during the polling last election.
No one ever went broke underestimating.....

#13 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-16 03:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

One in four? That has got to be a skewed poll.

#1 | Posted by REDIAL

Not hard to believe, just look at the horrible politicians that keep getting reelected over and over again. A ton of brain dead voters.

#14 | Posted by zack991 at 2014-02-16 08:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

More than one-quarter of Democrats thought the government knew about 9/11 during the polling last election.

Less improbably than what the majority of Republicans still (as of 2012) believe:

And 55.6 % of Republicans say "they always believed President Obama was born in another country"

63% of Republicans believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the United States invaded Iraq in 2003.

docs.google.com

Those numbers are twice as high as the Democrats "one-quarter" number. Are you sure you want to cast dispersions on who the "unaware the Earth circles the Sun" folks are? Or should we just drop the political point scoring on who's the more likely to be duped?

#15 | Posted by YAV at 2014-02-16 09:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

5 oil always someone to blame!! How about blaming. those who chose not to learn, coming from families who don't care if they learn, from a school district who has given up trying to reach those who don't want to learn?
No the left chides yo blame Rs for not throwing more money at the problem.

PS I haven't met a teacher who has without their best efforts to reach...based on their paychecks

#16 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-16 09:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wow I am having so much trouble with the text on my new phone I'm going to voice tax for now on as I said the left is always pointing fingers of Blaine at others they never looked at the actual problem students who refuse to learn from families they could care less what they learn from an administration with giving up trying to understand how to teach or some of the main problems have you ever made a teacher who is said they're going to withhold your best efforts to teach until they get paid more

#17 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-16 09:34 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 5

#17...."could care less". The expression is 'could not care less'.

#18 | Posted by Visitor2 at 2014-02-16 12:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Were all their subjects from retirement homes and halfway houses for developmentally challenged?

Home schooled or went to religious charter schools.

But seriously, if this poll is even remotely (say within 300%)accurate, this country has a serious problem.

#19 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-02-16 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

More than one-quarter of Democrats thought the government knew about 9/11 during the polling last election.

Other than George W, everybody involved in national security did. Read the 9-11 Commission Report.

#20 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-02-16 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

I imagine that even a greater number of people believe the Flat Earth Myth.

www.google.com

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-16 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

More than one-quarter of Democrats thought the government knew about 9/11 during the polling last election.
No one ever went broke underestimating.....
#13 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-16 03:46 AM

Dude, there is a certitude that criminal activities coincided on 9/11. You have to give up the ghost - playing stupid simply makes us all look at you stupidly.

If we really wanted to learn about the true nature of our universe we would probably invest in a non-partial investigation, maybe beginning with the makers of Silverstream and the instance of possible billions in gold loaded into a truck that got stuck under WTC 4? We got raped and robbed blind, and the MSM network scum has been covering-up the entire affair so you will never make either inquiry, ever. I understand the weather in Davos was fantastic!

I don't believe this survey. It's very difficult in the day of console games to not have some degree of common knowledge - of which the solar orbit is one.

#22 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-02-16 03:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

"How about blaming. those who chose not to learn, coming from families who don't care if they learn, from a school district who has given up trying to reach those who don't want to learn?"

Leave the Bennington students out of this.

#23 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-16 03:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

22 another Dr left whack job

#24 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-16 04:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

what about the thermite the missiles, the' fact' that no Jews died, the' pull' quote, the' fact' calls can't he made fro phoned, that nobody really died.

911 truthscholarss are crud on your shoe, not worthy of attention accept. they smell so bad

#25 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-16 04:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not surprising ng3. is one. Proof of his sick mind

#26 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-16 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Why would anybody be surprised by this, in a country where our news broadcasters sue for the right to lie?
Freedom includes the right to tell and to believe lies.
Telling people what to think -- even when it's true -- is fascism, or communism, or socialism, or whatever's the opposite of freedom today.
Isn't that correct, right-wingers?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-02-16 04:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

27 and your point is relevant in what way?

#28 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-16 05:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

You are blaming news services for science education??

#29 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-16 05:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

You are blaming news services for science education??
#29 | Posted by DavetheWave

I wouldn't quite put it that way, but have you watched Channel One lately?
Why are we advertising Coca-Cola and Go Army in school classrooms on school time?
If the people who controlled our media thought it would be profitable for us to be educated, we'd be educated.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-02-16 05:31 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

in a country where our news broadcasters sue for the right to lie?

Urban myth.

#31 | Posted by et_al at 2014-02-16 05:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

♫ I wish I was in Tijuana ♫
♫ Eating barbequed iguana. ♫

#32 | Posted by madscientist at 2014-02-16 05:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oops. ☺

#33 | Posted by madscientist at 2014-02-16 05:50 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

I thought it circled Obama.

#34 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2014-02-16 06:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

**** On the other hand those people who are completely in the dark are the Best,Most Fervent Flag Wavers!

#35 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-02-16 06:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

@ #25 and #17

DavetheWave,

Your comments have got to be some of the best conservative argument I've read in quite some time. Please keep them coming and please keep using the voice to text feature on your phone. Never type anything again, please.

#36 | Posted by censored at 2014-02-16 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

On another website a I saw one of the questions was about whether the universe began with a single explosion. That's when I knew it had no credibility.

#37 | Posted by sentinel at 2014-02-16 09:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

fro phoned,

#25 | Posted by DavetheWave

"Afro, sometimes shortened to 'fro and also known as a "natural",

DUDE! you have a phone with a fro! I want one!

#38 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-02-16 10:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Thats no worse than 50% of those on this website believing in Macro evolution and yet none of theme could answer a single question about it with facts.

Which evolved first the heart or blood vessels?

#39 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-02-17 02:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

What did a starfish evolve from?

#40 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-02-17 02:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

The heart.

Though it wasn't as you see now.

#41 | Posted by Tor at 2014-02-17 02:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

Has anyone checkted "Unskewed Polls"?

#42 | Posted by 726 at 2014-02-17 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

We need to have a fair and balanced discussion.

Sure most scientists say the earth orbits the sun, but unless we give EQUAL weight and time to the people who think the sun orbits the earth, we're not being FAIR and BALANCED, right fox?

Fox has taught us that you need to give equal weight to established scientists and crackpot morons... thereby probably dooming all of humanity back to the dark ages.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-02-17 04:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Which evolved first the heart or blood vessels?

I did answer it.

biology.about.com

Use Google to look more (I doubt you're genuinely interested...) and stop listening to Church videos that use decades old arguments against evolution.

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2014-02-17 05:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

What did a starfish evolve from?

Why exactly do you think this a profound question?

#45 | Posted by jpw at 2014-02-17 05:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

HAHAHA!

#46 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-02-17 05:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

What did a starfish evolve from?

God's love of stars and fish.

What's even more amazing is when he created chicken of the sea.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-02-17 05:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

One in three respondents said science should get more funding from the government.

What a surprise. You pay teachers crap and show them no respect, you get what you pay for.

#5 | Posted by Whatsleft

Comeon. European countries educate their students on a far less budget.

Sorry, it's not what we pay teachers. It's something else.

You're a Lefty. You tell me what the problem is. You and "Your kind" are the one's responsible for this problem.

What's the matter? Conservatives manage to educate their children.

#48 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-17 05:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Conservatives manage to educate their children.

Do they?

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-02-17 06:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

What's the matter? Conservatives manage to educate their children.

#48 | Posted by LastAmerican

Yeah. They tell their kids the earth is 6000 years old, Christopher Columbus was a hero, global warming is a hoax, and being gay is a choice.

I guess you could call that educating their children in some kind of perverse way...

#50 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-02-17 07:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

#50 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

LOL!!!

You really believe that Creationists make up the majority of Conservatives?

Conservatives are more educated in conventional education than people who vote Democrat.

If fact, and this is really going to upset you, Tea Partiers are most educated political group.

www.nytimes.com

(Notice the link is Leftist Media).

#51 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-17 11:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

European countries have some of the strongest teachers unions as well, Last American.

The conservative argument when proposals are floated to tax Wall Street bonuses is that there would be a "brain-drain," and these Wall Street geniuses that are entitled to make exhorbitant salaries would leave to find other employment. Why is it that when it's proposed to pay teachers more to attract better talent, the brain-drain argument from the right is nowhere to be found?

#52 | Posted by DCTexan at 2014-02-18 12:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

If 25% of our adult population is truly this stupid, then this explains how Obama managed to get reelected!

#53 | Posted by dougluvsgolf at 2014-02-18 08:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

#52 | Posted by DCTexan

Do you really believe what you just said?

Teacher pay is not the reason for the problems. We can raise teacher pay, we can lower. It won't affect the quality of education. We have some really great teachers. The quality of the teachers' education and experience has improved immensely since my kids first started school 20 years ago. It's the system. It's the barriers that teachers have to actually "teaching"

I don't have a problem with paying teachers more. In fact, I think we should pay them as we pay airline pilots and doctors. But, you didn't address the little factoid that completely blows your argument out of the water: We spend more than Europe.

#54 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-18 10:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

#50 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Did you know that there are more people in America who believe that "The Day After Tomorrow" is a true story than there are actual Creationists?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!
!

And now, wait until you see "Noah" with Russel Crow!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...

You make fun of Creationists. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

I can't wait for you to see this movie. You are going to feel soooo foolish.

#55 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-18 10:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

Did you know that there are more people in America who believe that "The Day After Tomorrow" is a true story than there are actual Creationists?

"The Day After Tomorrow" is a movie. You don't have to believe in it. It exists independent of your beliefs.

Creationism requires your absolute belief in it in order to exist.

And now, wait until you see "Noah" with Russel Crow!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...
You make fun of Creationists. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
I can't wait for you to see this movie. You are going to feel soooo foolish.
#55 | POSTED BY LASTAMERICAN AT 2014-02-18 10:43 AM

I'm not too sure what the movie, "Noah" has to do with anything. Non sequitur?

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-02-18 01:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Did you know that there are more people in America who believe that "The Day After Tomorrow" is a true story than there are actual Creationists?

#55 | Posted by LastAmerican

Gonna have to see a source for that claim buddy.

Or maybe you just make stuff up?

#57 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-02-18 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

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