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Friday, February 14, 2014

Tom Perkins suggested Thursday that only taxpayers should have the right to vote -- and that wealthy Americans who pay more in taxes should get more votes. The venture capitalist offered the unorthodox proposal when asked to name one idea that would "change the world" at a speaking engagement in San Francisco moderated by Fortune's Adam Lashinsky. "The Tom Perkins system is: You don't get to vote unless you pay a dollar of taxes," Perkins said. "But what I really think is, it should be like a corporation. You pay a million dollars in taxes, you get a million votes. How's that?"

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Sure, that sounds constitutional. (Snark font)

#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-02-14 02:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Actually, with CU, he pretty much has his wish now.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-14 02:22 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

I don't think old turds like this dude should be allowed to vote at all. They'll be dead soon and therefore have no interest in making good long term decisions.

#3 | Posted by Sully at 2014-02-14 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

I'm surprised Tom Perkins peers aren't asking him to STFU. His views are certainly damaging any idea that these people have any empathy for less fortunate Americans.

#4 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-02-14 02:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

In earlier times, when wiser minds prevailed, people understood the power and responsibility that accompanies the right to vote. Which is why in colonial times only people who owned land and were invested into society had the right.

As namby pamby liberalism permeated society, more and more people got to vote. But even then the responsible segments of society recognized the problem. Which is why in their wisdom black people, who really didn't own much of anything, were considered 3/5ths of a person. And it made sense from a responsible property perspective.

Now everything has gone to hell. Any poor retard can vote. If the Democrats have their way even illegal immigrants from Mexico and Italy will be able to vote.

Our Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves.

No citation necessary.

Walker '16: Keeping laborers in their proper place

#5 | Posted by BradfordWinston at 2014-02-14 02:38 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 7

-Tom Perkins peers

are funding every rwing crackpot they can find to get more proxy votes, scared to death that "this inequality thingy" might catch fire.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-14 02:38 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The stench of desperation is strong on this one, Butt hurt liberals have nothing better to do?

Asked offstage if the proposal was serious, Perkins said: "I intended to be outrageous, and it was."
Perkins seemed to be aware that he was courting controversy, saying that his voting proposal would "make you more angry than my letter to the Wall Street Journal."

#7 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-02-14 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Remember in gospels when Jesus found all those moneychangers buying and selling stuff in the temple courtyard and got REALLY angry and then individually helped each one of them learn how they could maximize profit and cut waste on things like wages and benefits?

That's why I vote Republican.

#8 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-02-14 02:51 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 4

I wonder if this delusional turd has ever heard of Marie Antoinette.

#9 | Posted by ReagansNads at 2014-02-14 02:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'd like to volunteer to introduce him to the guillotine.

#10 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-14 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

He certainly makes a good argument for it's re-introduction.. he and the rich kid who killed 4 people drunk driving and got off because of 'affluenza '.

#11 | Posted by ReagansNads at 2014-02-14 03:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

TO his credit at least this creep is honest while many like him are silent about their twisted wish.

#12 | Posted by Tor at 2014-02-14 03:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

You laugh, but affluenza is a real thing. Not that you would understand. Researchers have been coming up with lots of evidence for the condition over the past few years. You should educate yourself before mocking something you don't understand.

No citation necessary.

#13 | Posted by BradfordWinston at 2014-02-14 03:14 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 3

This is the standard plutocratic belief.

Your function is to work, consume, watch tv,and shut your hole.

#14 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-02-14 03:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Walker '16: Keeping laborers in their proper place

#5 | Posted by BradfordWinston

COngrats on being a billionaire, brad.

You're clearly either really rich or really stupid to campaign against your own best interests like that.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-02-14 03:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

In earlier times, when wiser minds prevailed, people understood the power and responsibility that accompanies the right to vote. Which is why in colonial times only people who owned land and were invested into society had the right.

Begs repeating. No skin in the game, no vote. Not likely to happen again however because the left thinks that the more retards they can convince to vote to keep them beholden to government the better.

It's not that hard to own property in 2014.

#16 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum at 2014-02-14 03:24 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#16 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum

You do realize that BW's posts are sarcasm, right? Figures you would find them valid.

#18 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-02-14 03:26 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I actually wonder if he is being a troll.....pretending to be the worst kind of plutocrat as a way of waking people up and pushing them to the left.

#19 | Posted by dibblda at 2014-02-14 03:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

EPlurU, I flagged your #16 as newsworthy.

#20 | Posted by BradfordWinston at 2014-02-14 03:27 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Hey, remember in the gospels when Jesus said to "consider the lilies of the field," and what jackholes they are for not working several menial jobs at once instead of depending on the government to kiss all their boo boos?

------- lazy thug lilies sucking up my tax dollars. Remember that?

#21 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-02-14 03:28 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 4

Lee makes a good point when he references Jesus and The Bible. If anyone has any doubts about the importance of wealthy people just consider the fact that Jesus and his disciples were spending the night in a wealthy person's garden when Judas betrayed Him and the Romans took him away. Think about it. But for a wealthy person Jesus and his disciples would have had to sleep in the street or next to some dumpster.

No citation necessary.

#22 | Posted by BradfordWinston at 2014-02-14 03:33 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Speaksoftly, you obviously don't understand the first thing about economics. You're a moron. Rich people like me create opportunities for little people like you.

No citation necessary.

Walker '16: We need to stop wasting money on people unwilling to actually put in a full days labor.

#17 | Posted by BradfordWinston

Yeah. Please tutor me in economics: Tell me what happens to workers when the rich control the government, and therefore all economic policy?

Let me guess, you think that's a good thing?

And you're not rich unless you're an athlete or you inherited it. No one who thinks the rich are the key to economic success is smart enough to get rich in the first place.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-02-14 03:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

"It's not that hard to own property in 2014."

#16 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum

Having a lock on the basement door doesn't mean you own it, buddy.

#24 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-14 03:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

...good luck getting through that needle's eye, Thurston Howell III...

...err, I mean BRADFORD...

...say "hey!" to Lovie for me...

...LOL...

#25 | Posted by 1EyedMan at 2014-02-14 03:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Lets throw this around and quit calling him a nut job.... which he is... .but I digress....

First off, lets throw in a Danforth... the poor pay taxes, this cannot be disputed.

But lets not throw this guys idea away so fast......

Suppose we give every person a number of votes in relation to the percentage of income they pay in taxes.... progressive taxation gets rich people votes, and regressive taxes give votes to poor people....

For instance if you pay 42% in taxes you should get 42 votes.......

If the liberal argument is the rich don't pay as high a percentage as the little people, the little people will have more votes....

The idea is to neutralize the ability to overtax a particular group.....

#26 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-02-14 03:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sure, that sounds constitutional. (Snark font)

#1 | POSTED BY OLDWHISKEYSOUR

The way it works now is the people on the government teat do elect the politicians. Just look in the mirror old.

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-02-14 03:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well said AndreaMackris!

(By the way, are you a chick? I always found the name Andrea kind of sexy.)

No citation necessary.

#28 | Posted by BradfordWinston at 2014-02-14 03:43 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

#26 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Let's not kid ourselves into believing that voting is the actual wielding of power in America. If you're rich and want political influence, you hire a lobbyist. How many lobbyists are paid by the poor?

#29 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-02-14 03:43 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

(By the way, are you a chick? I always found the name Andrea kind of sexy.)

Don't let Gracie catch you flirting with Andrea. You don't know crazy until you've met a chick from Florida.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-02-14 03:45 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I love to see Bradford back in full form, keeping the little man down :-)

#31 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-02-14 04:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Some idiots don't understand their words have ramifications.

en.wikipedia.org(2013_film)

#32 | Posted by Tor at 2014-02-14 04:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

The way it works now is the people on the government teat do elect the politicians. Just look in the mirror old.

#27 | Posted by Sniper

Oh you mean exxon and lockheed elect the politicians? That's the first correct thing you've ever posted.

#33 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-02-14 05:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

I actually agree with him to an extent. Those that have the most invested should have the most say-so. For sure people on the dole should not be allowed to vote.

#34 | Posted by Huguenot at 2014-02-14 08:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

#34 | POSTED BY HUGUENOT

AAAAAHAHAHAHA! That's funny. I love sarcasm.

#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-02-14 08:33 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"Those that have the most invested"

Guess during war time only those Americans serving in war zones should be allowed to vote.

#37 | Posted by Tor at 2014-02-14 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

That's a good point and I acknowledge that.
However, I didn't categorically say that wage earners shouldn't be allowed to vote. Only those on the dole.

#38 | Posted by Huguenot at 2014-02-14 08:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

However, I didn't categorically say that wage earners shouldn't be allowed to vote. Only those on the dole.
#38 | POSTED BY HUGUENOT

So those receiving subsidies and working are not worthy?

#39 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-02-14 08:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fatcats have been winning for thirty years. Taking workers to the cleaners.

#43 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-02-14 11:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Tom Perkins suggested Thursday that only taxpayers should have the right to vote

Every American pays taxes.

#44 | Posted by 726 at 2014-02-15 10:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder if this delusional turd has ever heard of Marie Antoinette.
#9 | Posted by ReagansNads

Hmmmm...

Didn't Obama say "Let them eat cake" when millions complained about losing their healthcare?

Just sayen...

#45 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-15 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fatcats have been winning for thirty years. Taking workers to the cleaners.
#43 | Posted by nutcase

No they haven't. Not in this country.

If you don't like what you're paid, then get educated or find another job. Or form a union and demand more as a group. As a Conservative, I support this 100%.

But telling the government to make companies pay more and voting against an elected official for not supporting it is not only stupid, it turns into the insanity that Europe is going through now--lack of innovation and growth.

Leave the government out of it an allow contracts rule.

I would agree Wal-mart giving in to Unions. I would still shop there. It has a small chance to kill the company, but I think Wal-mart should pay them more to its employees. But, then again, it's none of my business and I would never (never say never) work for Wal-mart.

#46 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-15 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

I dont think the poor should be banned from voting. But I dont they should have a say on how high taxes are and what tax dollars are spent.

I think we should have a vote each year to approve spending and tax levels and only tax payers should be allowed to vote in it.

#47 | Posted by tmaster at 2014-02-15 04:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do minorities get 3/5ths of a vote?

#48 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-15 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"But telling the government to make companies pay more and voting against an elected official for not supporting it is not only stupid, it turns into the insanity that Europe is going through now--lack of innovation and growth. "

We've had a minimum wage in the U.S. since 1938, there hasn't been any innovation or growth since?

#49 | Posted by danni at 2014-02-15 04:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

#49 | Posted by danni

not lately.

Research and development went overseas.

#50 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-15 04:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Do minorities get 3/5ths of a vote?"

Six fifths in Harlem. Maybe eight or nine fifths in Philly.

#51 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-16 05:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

Oh more whining from the persecuted 1%. Poor babies.

#52 | Posted by 726 at 2014-02-16 11:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I actually agree with him to an extent. Those that have the most invested should have the most say-so. For sure people on the dole should not be allowed to vote."

Voting can be a useful tool. But what do we suppose the outcome of a vote between two fratboys and a drunk sorority girl on whether or not to -------- the sorority girl would be. And would it be "fair" under any definition?

Snoofy would probably tell you yes. That it was part of the "social contract." Part of being part of a civilized society.

"Guess during war time only those Americans serving in war zones should be allowed to vote."

Think of the government as a corporation, and contributors being shareholders. It's the shareholder who should get to vote. Consider this. If I am in the lower two quintiles of income earners, what vested interest do I have in the long term financial health of country. From my rational perspective, I'm going to vote for the politician who gives me the most. Maybe through redistribution. Maybe through debt. After all, I don't pay federal income taxes, so it's basically like being able to take out a credit card under someone else's name.

It's not that lower income people don't or can't contribute. Many do. In the military or some other But not financially, through taxation. I've been in the military for almost 20 years on and off now, and I'm only now at a point where a pay a significant amount in taxes. And it's probably nowhere near most professional households. And I don't pay state taxes at all.

"We've had a minimum wage in the U.S. since 1938, there hasn't been any innovation or growth since?"

It's been a boon for industries catering to teenagers. Nike wouldn't have done nearly as well without there being a minimum wage.

#53 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-02-16 11:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

I am all for it I will stop paying all taxes and stop voting.

#54 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2014-02-16 11:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

I liked RAHs idea of citizens and voting citizens where if you have served in either a stint in the military or a civilian govt service for a couple of years [VA hospital, America/Peace corps, etc. for those who do not chose military] then you have earned the right to vote. Those who chose to not serve have full citizen rights with the exception of voting.

#55 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-02-16 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's a good point and I acknowledge that.
However, I didn't categorically say that wage earners shouldn't be allowed to vote. Only those on the dole.

#38 | Posted by Huguenot

You sound like one of those idiots who count poor people as being on the dole, but don't consider corporations who get subsidies and write their own tax loopholes to be on the dole.

#56 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-02-16 03:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Flag:

I dont think the poor should be banned from voting. But I dont they should have a say on how high taxes are and what tax dollars are spent.

I think we should have a vote each year to approve spending and tax levels and only tax payers should be allowed to vote in it.

#47 | Posted by tmaster

The poor already pay taxes.

Did you know that or are you completely ignorant?

#57 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-02-16 03:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Response to a non issue:

Fat Cat is stating the facts.
The majority of poor do not vote.
the wealthy have the equivalent of multiple votes as politics is run for and by crony capitalism.
there is a remote chance that some poor who read Fat Cats statement of the obvious may go vote. The odds are as long as any bets that anything. will change.

#58 | Posted by Dandahan at 2014-02-17 06:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

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