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Tuesday, February 11, 2014

An online petition to save a healthy young giraffe from death has failed, despite thousands of signatures from animal lovers. Copenhagen Zoo shot the male, named Marius, on Sunday in a measure officials said was necessary to avoid inbreeding. After an autopsy, Marius was dismembered in front of a zoo audience that included children, and fed to the zoo's lions. Zookeeper and TV personality Jack Hanna joined the chorus of outrage Monday, calling the Copenhagen Zoo's decision "the most abominable, insensitive, ridiculous thing I've ever heard of." Lesley Dickie of the European Association of Zoos and Aquaria wrote an op-ed defending the killing. "The EEP must prioritize animals which can contribute to the overall genetic health of the captive population," Dickie writes. "This means that in rare cases (five in the case of giraffes in EAZA zoos since records began in 1828), animals must be removed from the population by management euthanasia."

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Some people got to see what life is really like.

#1 | Posted by rearendhat at 2014-02-11 08:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Assisted zoo suicide. They all knew the giraffe wanted to die, because he was unable to say anything.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-11 09:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, like there's too many giraffes in this world, not enough people. Do you think maybe another zoo would have liked to have had him?

#3 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-02-11 09:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

not enough people stuck their necks out to save him.

#4 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-02-11 09:32 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Time to boycott Toy R Us

#5 | Posted by patron at 2014-02-11 09:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

copenhagen zoo lions: "we wholeheartedly support the decision (burp)"

#6 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-02-11 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"We have to kill it to find out what is in it".

#7 | Posted by Whizzo at 2014-02-11 10:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

The giraffe was a Christian.

#8 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-02-11 10:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

A for conservation
F for public relations

#9 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2014-02-11 10:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

the copenhagen zoo's public relations director had this to say about the killing:

"Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."

#10 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-02-11 10:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Where was Bob Barker to tell them to spay or neuter your giraffes?

#11 | Posted by DCTexan at 2014-02-11 12:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

I listened to an interview with Holst on NPR last night. I have to disagree on so many levels with what he suggested. Now I understand that they don't want to see the animal go on to a miserable life, but there are so many different things to be done.

Being that I do work with some endangered species in my hobby and have learned a lot from that work. The dogma of the organization's charter actually stood in the way of common sense on this. There were ways to address the supposed issue that were far more beneficial than slaughtering the animal. I have seen this kind of stuff in pure bred dog and cat breeder programs as well. They create these idealistic charters that in have no place in reality because their own members don't always follow them.

If his genes were not desirable as they were in the European Association of Zoos program - why were his parents bred in the first place? That was horrendous planning on the part of the Zoo and association.

Spay / Neuter is not a big deal to stop inbreeding, but the animal still takes up valuable breeding program space. I get that. Sell him or put him on PERMANENT loan.

It is BS that they shouldn't / couldn't sell to zoos not in their program. There are legal contracts to bring the protections from the potentially poor treatment and reselling. Selling the animal would have benefited the Zoo and organization far more than the killing. Even a trade for another animal from outside their group would have been better. There are a great number of zoos outside their group that are reputable and strive toward the same goals. However $500k goes a long way toward maintaining the groups efforts.

The announcing the event and the thought to put the autopsy on display was probably the biggest PR nightmare they could contrive. Sure a few kids actually learned a bit about anatomy, but the negative reaction far outweighed any positive. I mean this ranks up there as stupid.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-02-11 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Zookeeper and TV personality Jack Hanna joined the chorus of outrage Monday,

WTF does that moron think lions eat, hay and oats?

#13 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-02-11 01:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Some people got to see what life is really like.
#1 | Posted by rearendhat at 2014-02-11 08:18 AM

You mean senseless murder. That's what people got to witness.

#14 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-02-11 02:00 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Weird, I agree with Sniper.
Animals raised in captivity are meat. Lions eat meat. Feed surplus meat to the Lions if you don't have a better option for that meat.
I don't know if there were better options, but there isn't anything wrong with feeding Lions giraffe meat.

#15 | Posted by bored at 2014-02-11 02:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

It was their Giraffe to do with as they wish. They fed it to the lions. I just can't convince myself to care.

#16 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-02-11 05:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

The lions needed a break from their normal diet of tofu.

#17 | Posted by visitor_ at 2014-02-11 05:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

The worst thing is, the poor kids who witnessed the lions devouring its remains went hungry.

#18 | Posted by sentinel at 2014-02-11 08:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

"We really wanted the zebra, but hey, f--- it."

--Da Lions

#19 | Posted by cookfish at 2014-02-11 08:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

On one hand, could not have some rich Hollywood or celebrity type have bought the giraffe? Put the poor animal up for adoption, but only 1% 'ers? could afford to support such a wonderous beast.

But on the other hand, giraffes are a fascinating anatomical specimen displaying the wonders of natural selection right before out eyes, if we should get past the gore of it. Good day for zoologists.

#20 | Posted by danv at 2014-02-11 08:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

On one hand, could not have some rich Hollywood or celebrity type have bought the giraffe?

Actually there were zoos all over trying to get the giraffe from them and a private individual offered to take it.

There was no reason to kill the giraffe and whatever BS excuse they used to kill it is just that. BS. Try killing your dog and feeding it to another dog... you end up in jail like Michael Vick. The "it was mine to do with as I please" won't stop you from getting some shower time with some gangbangers in to local lock up.

#21 | Posted by captjimmyjames at 2014-02-12 04:45 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#12 ~ " I mean this ranks up there as stupid."

it was stupid & mean.

#16 ~ "I just can't convince myself to care,"

the exact sentiment of the reptilians about you.

#22 | Posted by kenx at 2014-02-12 10:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

On one hand, could not have some rich Hollywood or celebrity type have bought the giraffe?

#20 | Posted by danv

They would still have to kill a cow to feed the lions.

#23 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-02-12 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

#23 ~ It's all about proportion. What is the population of wild & domestic cattle compared to that of wild & captive giraffes? i can't supply the figures, but would wager that proportionately, the giraffe is by far the rarer and therefore the more valuable creature. One can easily intuit this, so your statement is really quite astonishing.

Humans are not in the position to judge that carnivorous animals are the less valuable or morally tenable because they kill other animals to eat for survival, as opposed to bovine species which survive upon grass. Nor do the numbers of cattle and their station in human society as food, delegate them as creatures undeserving of compassion and humane treatment in their environment and slaughter.

The jungle is indeed a harsh reality. Humans have struggled for centuries to elevate their society and moral thinking. We nevertheless are faced with the reality that there are among us those possessed of varying degrees from minor to extreme sociopathy.

And neither we can judge those indigenous people struggling to survive in the wild in more primitive societies who hunt giraffe for food. (There are humanitarian efforts to introduce the science of raising & caring for livestock--agriculture--to these people.)

#24 | Posted by kenx at 2014-02-12 03:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

as opposed to bovine species which survive upon grass.

#24 | POSTED BY KENX

Them damn cows kill grass and grain. There ain't no end to the killing for survival.

#25 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-02-12 03:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

as opposed to bovine species which survive upon grass.
#24 | POSTED BY KENX
Them damn cows kill grass and grain. There ain't no end to the killing for survival.
#25 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-02-12 03:51 PM

You mean industrial corporate "farming" is destroying the ecosystem, is entirely inhumane and poisons generations to come introducing self-destructive genetics by force.

Monsanto thy name is damnation.

#26 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-02-12 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

They would still have to kill a cow to feed the lions.

#23 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-02-12 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag

How is that problem? Sounds fascinating to watch, some real National Geographic, hungry lion kills a deer. That's awesome!

I loved watching my cat pumpkin toss a wild mouse up in the air several times before really biting in to it, then it still toyed with the poor mouse. But heck, no more mice in my house!

#27 | Posted by danv at 2014-02-12 06:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

a neighborhood tomcat, very young, invited himself into my apt, headed straight for the kitchen & i freaked out cause i forgot a set rat trap in there & i yell NO & he obeys, then i see the trap has a DEAD mouse. he then freaked & i got them both outside & he threw it up several times before ~CRUNCH~ there went the skull & head first down the hatch. he spent the night, a real loverboy, & next day was on his way.

darn ~ idk, the wolf pack taking down an elk is hard for me to watch LiH ~ i mean, wrong to kill the giraffe

#28 | Posted by kenx at 2014-02-13 06:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

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