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Tuesday, February 11, 2014

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) laid out a sweeping liberal agenda for the nation's largest city during his first State of the City address, but many of his ambitious proposals may find a difficult path to passage. Albany lawmakers must sign off on de Blasio's hopes to raise the minimum wage for city residents and for the centerpiece of his agenda: a tax hike on the rich to fund universal pre-kindergarten. "We're simply asking Albany to allow New York City to tax itself: its wealthiest residents, those making a half-million or more a year," de Blasio said Monday during his address at LaGuardia Community College in Queens. "Raising taxes on the rich makes our commitment to our kids more than just words. It makes that commitment real."

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"a tax hike on the rich to fund universal pre-kindergarten."

Brilliant, just brilliant. If he keeps working it, he can make NYC as prosperous as Detroit.

#1 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-02-11 02:34 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

He might as well just admit that he's part of the liberal crowd that believes "you have kids, we'll watch them for you" because "it takes a village" to raise a child. Why burden you down with a full time job, even a full time job like being a parent? Just be a part-time parent and be free to pursue your true passions...we'll make the rich people pay for it!

#2 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-02-11 07:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yea cause too much education was the problem for Detroit not the massive loss of manufacturing jobs. Conservative folks ability to make nuanced issues into preschool math is hilarious.

#3 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-02-11 08:10 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

2: Really, 'Stang? That's your answer? That's what you think universal pre-K is for? For people to be lazy and not parent? (sigh)

#4 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-11 09:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Careful MUSTANG, I suspect Prags on the Bill de Blasio bus.

Parents blast De Blasio's war on charter schools

She said the decision Friday by Schools Chancellor Carmen Fariña to divert $210 million earmarked for building new charters toward expansion of pre-kindergarten programs instead was "very disappointing. It does not bode well for kids."

But some charter organizations -- swamped with applications from parents hoping to pull children out of poor-performing schools -- have big plans. For instance, Moskowitz's Success Academy now operates 22 schools across the city, and plans on opening dozens more in the next few years.

nypost.com

#5 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-02-11 09:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

That was a foolish and unsupportable suggestion, PA. I know next to nothing about de Blasio, didn't comment on his agenda specifically, and don't really care about him. I left NYC long, long ago. I just think it's foolish to assert that supporting universal pre-K equals supporting lazy parenting.

As for charter schools vs. pre-K, the parents' statement is one of interpretation. There is a solid argument that early education helps; there is also an argument that it levels out over time. Pretty hard to say with certainty. I generally support the idea of more education earlier (not more testing, more education).

And as I've said to you over and over, when it comes to education, I'm an "all options on the table" guy. Let's put everything on the table and try to figure out best paths. But you know, that's too tough for extremists on both sides of the education argument.

#6 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-11 11:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

here's all you need to know about bill de blasio in one succinct photo:

nyopoliticker.files.wordpress.
com

#7 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-02-11 11:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

de blasio's predecesor, michael bloomberg:

www.vosizneias.com

and bloomberg's predecessor, rudy giuliani:

news.bbc.co.uk

etc.
etc.
etc.

#8 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-02-11 11:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

the western wall, where all good presidential hopefuls go to have their prayers answered:

hillary clinton:

www.jerusalemtempleprayers.com

and mitt romney:

assets.nydailynews.com!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/
derivatives/landscape_635/
romney30n-1-web.jpg

and john mccain:

www.kabbalahtalismans.com

and barack obama:

i185.photobucket.com

and bill clinton:

www.sanfranciscosentinel.com

and george w bush:

www.fossilizedcustoms.com

and george h w bush:

www.jerusalemtempleprayers.com

and chris christie, lol:

media.nj.com

now that christie is gone, de blasio has bigger plans, lol...

#9 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-02-11 11:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

10 million people visit the Wailing Wall each year.

That's some big conspiracy, eh?.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 11:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

Visit the wall, are photographed in essentially the same pose, and are politicians? Not a conspiracy, no. Pandering or appealing to a certain demographic, yes.

#11 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-11 11:39 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

But Nerf, Christie is gone? What did I miss?

#12 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-11 11:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

-Pandering or appealing to a certain demographic, yes.

Politicians do that? Really?

Nerf must be really upset when they go to Harlem.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 11:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

The lens of real estate and finance gives us an interesting look at how our healthcare system is part and parcel of an edifice that enables the rich to get richer and, well, you know.

Since the poor have been largely invisible to the mainstream media until recently, many could be excused for not knowing that states have been able to seize the estate assets of Medicaid recipients upon death. Now, in addition to doing nothing to address the problem of bankruptcy due to medical debt, the ACA, through Medicaid expansion, has increased the pool of resources that can be repossessed by state authorities to help defer the costs of the program. The American healthcare system has actively hindered the wealth-building efforts of both the poor and the vanishing middle class. Granted, there are exceptions to the practice when there is a surviving spouse or minor children involved but that only delays seizure.

A system that targets the assets of the poor for liquidation and provides care pegged to one's income level is a system dedicated to reproducing inequality. The fault for this current situation lies not in good intentions, but in the structural problem of securing profits before the needs of the people. Healthcare under the Affordable Care Act will continue the trend in American politics of skewing wealth towards those who "earn" money from capital gains while those laboring under the illusion of an "American Dream" face dispossession.

How did we come to this? (Chris White)

#14 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-02-11 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

13: Amusing, but I find going to Harlem a little more logical (and less common, apparently) than going to Jerusalem. I mean, the folks up there might actually be American citizens.

Speaking of which, I heard part of a report this morning on a fake (Israeli) Kerry doing video spots against Kerry's/the U.S.'s recent statements/actions RE peace talks. Pretty amusing. They have fake Kerry saying some stuff, then they cut to a "Jewish woman" telling Kerry he should just go home where he belongs. The funny part: The Jewish woman was pretty clearly from New York. Now I suppose she could have been an Israeli citizen born and raised in NY, but the irony would still be entertaining.

#15 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-11 11:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

corky, if you were any more obtuse, you'd cease to be a triangle and instead be a straight line.

#16 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-02-11 12:37 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 4

#16

If you were any funnier, someone might eventually crack a smile.

Eons from now.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 01:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Socialism. Problem you can not go against history every time its been tried it has failed.

What you will end up is another Detroit. All the businesses will go and with them the workers and you will be left with only the welfare class and the businesses that make money off of them.

NY may think they are the cap of the world but nothing that is done in NY can not be done in some other city.

#18 | Posted by tmaster at 2014-02-11 01:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

-Socialism. Problem you can not go against history every time its been tried it has failed.

Despite popular myths, there is very little connection between economic performance and welfare expenditure. Many of the countries on this list are proof of that, such as Denmark and Finland. Even though both countries are more socialistic than America, the workforce remains stronger.

blog.peerform.com

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 01:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't think anyone here even knows what socialism is.

There are NO real liberals in power nor fascist media.

Not one.

#20 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-02-11 02:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

There are NO real liberals... except for Shawn.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 02:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

The beauty of raising taxes on the wealthy in Manhattan is that no matter how high they get raised, the attraction and panache of living in midtown Manhattan will always remain extemely appealing to the super rich. The sheik from Bahrain or the oil tycoon from St. Petersburg or the corporate magnate from Singapore does not want to live in Northern Jersey or Westchester. They want Manhattan.

#22 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-02-11 02:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

21: Snark aside, can you prove him wrong? Who's a real liberal in power?

#23 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-11 03:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

22: www.youtube.com

#24 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-11 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bernie Sanders for one, de Blasio for another.

And there are others...

www.nationaljournal.com

But hey, there is always someone who is "more liberal" than the rest of us. I've heard that since I protested the war in 'Nam.

Emo progressives, basically. A mix between the two below examples.

www.youtube.com

www.urbandictionary.com

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 03:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Emo progressives"

*toke*

#26 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-02-11 03:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

#26

You are too old to be a true Emo. Although I do notice a resemblance in the video.

-toke

*laughs*

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 03:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Really who in their right mind would live in N.Y. city? There are plenty of places outside of NYC that you can access by train. So why would you let them pick your pocket?

The NYC liberals are not going to be happy until they bankrupt that city. Just like Detroit, load government with liberal democrats and the city will go broke.

In 1960 Detroit had the highest per capita income in the country. They elected one republican going forward, so democrats own this one, in 2009 the average house in Detroit changed hands for under $7000.00. Guess that is what happens when the liberals are in charge.

On the other hand Wisconson was billions of dollars in debt when Walker was elected governor, I heard him a few weeks ago announce Wisconson had a 900 million dollar surplus. So what is he going to do with the money? Give it back to the citizens. Never saw a democrat do that, to them a surplus is for spending.

The states that have stellar bond ratings have one thing in common, they have republican governors. And I bet they don't care if you are for or against abortion, or gays, or if you are conservative or liberal, they will welcome you anyway. In New York, according to the governor, you are not welcomed. The best news is Coumo has pretty much torched any chance he ever had to run for presidnet.

So now the rich will continue thier exodus from NYC followed by anyone else that can get out, and the money will go to the southern states and New York will be broke, cannot say I will feel sorry for them.

#28 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-11 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would have added Elizabeth Warren as a "real" liberal, but for her recent quote...

"Addressing the crowd, Senator Warren said,

"I advise everyone to pay very close attention to Dan Winslow's platform. He has a 100 percent ranking from the gun lobby and he's for the legalization of marijuana. He wants us armed and stoned."

Nulli is still trying to recover from the blow.

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 03:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

"So now the rich will continue thier exodus from NYC followed by anyone else that can get out, and the money will go to the southern states and New York will be broke, cannot say I will feel sorry for them."

New York won't go broke. NYC, maybe. Probably. But they'll the shift the costs to those outside the city. And if that's not enough, to other states.

After all, why should the wealthy Manhattanite who fells NYC for Jackson Hole be able to escape his duty to provide a high standard of living to the consumption class citizens of that city?

#30 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-02-11 03:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

The military is currently enacting massive personnel cuts. Maybe my next career will be as a consultant, helping residents of states who are being over-taxed find new homes that are more to their liking. I think there could be a market for a service like that.

#31 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-02-11 03:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

"as a "real" liberal, "

Being a "real liberal" isn't much to brag about, considering their non-accomplishments in the last 40 years. Bill Clinton was outsourcing American jobs while his wife was bungling healthcare and setting it back 30 years.

#32 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-02-11 03:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

GTJR, have you ever lived in Manhattan? There is no place on earth like Manhattan. Maybe London or Paris can make a stab at it, but that's about it. Of course the uber-wealthy want to live in Manhattan. If you know Manhattan, then you know it is a no-brainer.

#33 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-02-11 04:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

#25 | Posted by Corky
"Emo progressives, basically."

From left to right, from the Shawns to the Boazes, they're all filed under the heading "The Professionally Discontent".

#34 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-02-11 04:19 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"There is no place on earth like Manhattan."

Have you ever been to Sunlight Basin in Park County, WY? It surpasses Manhattan on almost every level.

That being said, if your plan is to exploit billionaires seeking to be fashionable by paying outlandish prices for property, go ahead. But do so with the understanding that, for many, NYC is just the place you live so that you can do your job. And as costs go up, so do the incentives to leave that city.

Hell, maybe increasing taxes would increase the number of fashiobale billionaires. They can brag about who has the highest tax rate.

#35 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-02-11 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Manhattan comes off to me as a giant ------- Wal-Mart. Full of annoying people that make it difficult to get much of anything done quickly. Kind of like LA, but without the nice weather or scenery.

#36 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-02-11 04:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've never been to Manhattan....I would place Charlevoix/Petosky/Bay Harbor/Traverse City/Harbor Springs as extremely awesome places to live, at least during summer.

#37 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-02-11 04:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

There is no place on earth like Manhattan.

BWAHAHAHA

No kidding.
Anywhere else is better.

If I never set foot on that horrible, vile, stupid, filthy island again it will be too soon.

#38 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2014-02-11 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

My 9th great grandfather owned Staten Island, but I haven't had any family stupid enough to live in New York since the 17th century.

#39 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2014-02-11 04:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

#39

Does anybody believe that guy?

On topic, I'd love to visit Manhattan. Can't imagine living there....but would love to visit.

Went to Boston and Cape Cod last summer. Can't wait to do that again.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2014-02-11 05:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

When did bradfordwinston take over Zat's account?

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-02-11 05:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

"The Professionally Discontent".

rofl!

-considering their non-accomplishments in the last 40 years.

Yes, the Civil Rights Act and the Great Society et al pale in comparison to the accomplishments of the anarchists in this country.

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

""I advise everyone to pay very close attention to Dan Winslow's platform. He has a 100 percent ranking from the gun lobby and he's for the legalization of marijuana. He wants us armed and stoned.""

The very fact that "progressive" Elizabeth Warren would attack a Republican(!) for wanting to legalize marijuana tells you all you need to know about Democratic "progressives". Bunch of fakes and phonies.

#43 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-02-11 06:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, they are certainly not pure enough to be anarchist materiel, that's fer sure.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 07:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

fer sure, dude.

#45 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-02-11 08:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

I was speaking Cali Surf so's you'd unnerstan'.

You can vote for Rand Paul. He's a libertarian.

Or in his case, loonitarian.

You're in a blue, state, so it doesn't matter who you vote for.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 09:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

You're in a blue, state, so it doesn't matter who you vote for.

#46 | Posted by Corky

Spoken like a true partisan hack.

#47 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-02-11 09:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Spoken like a reality-less ideologue.

In CA, in the real world, you can go ahead and vote for Mickey again, because it doesn't matter.

In other places that would be voting for the Republican.

Even Bernie Sanders won't do that.

#48 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-11 09:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bernie Sanders, yes. I'm not sure if he's "in power." And DeBlasio seems to fit. Maybe even *gasp* a progressive.

"Really who in their right mind would live in N.Y. city?"

People who love it for all that it is (living outside NYC is not the same). People who love the cachet (living outside NYC is not the same). People who don't have much choice.

"Bill Clinton was outsourcing American jobs while his wife was bungling healthcare and setting it back 30 years."

Neither is or was all that liberal; they were just labeled as such.

"Have you ever been to Sunlight Basin in Park County, WY?"

It's nothing like Manhattan, for sure. What was your point? It's better, in your opinion? Of course. And coastal Maine is better in my opinion. But neither has what people choose to go to Manhattan for.

42: Both were more than 40 years ago...

#49 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-11 09:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

careful Prag, corky doesn't like any scrutiny. He believes he's above it.

But you're nice so he won't plonk you.

or claim to anyway.

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2014-02-11 09:54 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

#30

Madbomber

Not sure I agree with you, if NYC goes down I think the whole state of New York will collapse. Just look at the revenue NYC generates compared to the rest of the state. Although before that happens I think you may perhaps see Illinois collapse first. Most think it will be Califonia but I think Illinois will fall first becasue, like New York, the weather sucks half of the year so their ability to draw business is effected by that. The three states I see as bankruptcy candidates in the near future are Illinois, California, and New York.

#51 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-11 10:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

#33

Moder8

What ever trips your trigger, you could not pay me enough to live in an overcrowded, congested cesspool like Manhatten. Having to deal with beligerent, obnoxoius people, huge traffic jambs, no thanks. I wish people would quit moving to Raleigh where I live, the traffic here is starting to get to be unbearable.

But at least the people here are warm and caring, and they will actually let you merge onto a freeway rather than try to run into before they would let you merge, thanks, I will pass. Best part is I do not have to reach into my pocket every 50 seconds to pay for this toll or that toll. I can cross bridges without having to pay, and right now I can access many ferrys in the state for free. World class beaches within one to two hours. Damn, there I go giving you reasons to come here.

#52 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-11 10:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

#40

Eberly,

Depending on your proximity, the North Carolina beaches are stellar as are many of the South Carolina beaches. If you like quiet the Outer Banks, Topsail, Holden, Oak Island are great beaches. If you like congestion and shopping Wrightsville in NC or Myrtle in SC are great. Or if yu are a golfer Hilton Head SC. Look at beaches in the south they are great. I have been to Cape Cod and it was nice but the traffic was unreal, I go to the beach to relax not get my blood pressure up,lol.

If you like the beaches up norht you will love the beaches down south, plus the cost is very reasonable.

#53 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-11 10:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

"as a "real" liberal, "

Being a "real liberal" isn't much to brag about, considering their non-accomplishments in the last 40 years. Bill Clinton was outsourcing American jobs while his wife was bungling healthcare and setting it back 30 years.

---

There are NO real liberals in power nor fascist media.

Not one.

#54 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-02-12 05:30 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#25 | Posted by Corky
"Emo progressives, basically."

---

Corky is a black shirt. Best ignored.

#55 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-02-12 06:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

#53

Been to Hilton Head once....great beaches. Not interested in Myrtle for the reasons you posted. I would love to go to the Outer Banks....hear it's awesome.

we were fortunate on the traffic issue....middle of week and the house was on the water. Probably a $5 million home we stayed in with another family. (their family owns it).

70 degrees in late July? I'll go almost anywhere for that.

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2014-02-12 09:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

#55

Poor guy can't ignore the black helicopters constantly hovering over his head, or the brown shirts under his bed.

Paranoids are like that.

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-12 10:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The three states I see as bankruptcy candidates in the near future are Illinois, California, and New York."

You could be right. I don't know. I see the problems arising as states face tougher and tougher challenges paying for expansive social programs with diminishing revenues. Cali is a good example, as it is hemorrhaging taxpayers to many other states with lower tax rates. In order to meet their state obligations, lawmakers are forced to further increase taxes, which drives away even more taxpayers. So what happens when there are insufficient revenues to cover those local programs, the vast majority of which are progressive? Does the larger progressive machine actually let them fail? Or do they criminalize, or at least de-legitimize, the behavior of those who have fled Cali. If I were a Cali lawmaker, I would appeal to the larger progressive establishment on the basis that this is exactly the problem, and therefore it was up to the rest of the states (where all the other taxpayers moved to) to cover the cost shortfalls that California has incurred.

But that's all in the future. Currently, Illinois, Cali, and NY all contribute more to the federal coffers than they consume. Illinios pays nearly double what it gets in federal dollars. NY and CA are a little more leveraged, but still in a decent position. I wouldn't worry until we got to the point where federal tax expenditures in those states exceed collections.

#58 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-02-12 10:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

I am sure that in the years to come he will accomplish much in improving NYC :)

#59 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-02-12 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

why is more money always linked to better education?

#60 | Posted by danv at 2014-02-12 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

60: In this case, it's because he wants to add programming. You can't add grade levels and not incur more cost, well unless you cut a whole bunch in other places.

Now if you want to argue the value of preK, pull up some stats... Or if you want to suggest cutting in other places, show where and what impact that might have.

#61 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-12 07:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good for NYC, Y'all continue in this vain and Dallas will become the finical center of the US. Looking at the reality of this city is to see that if the cost of doing business gets high enough, other cities will start looking more and more attractive as locations to do business. NYC is too conceded to realize that she is in competition. Technology has progressed to the point that a terminal in Dallas or Houston can access and serve a majority of transactions with much less regulation and overhead. The city is no longer a shipping hub and manufacturing is almost nonexistent. She continues as a center for financial services and the headquarters for multinationals. Corporations are not tied down as they where 50 years ago. They can and do move operations elsewhere. Few transactions are actually take place on the floor of the stock exchange, compared to the number done digitally offsite. I myself, wouldn't buy any municipal bonds from that city.

#62 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-02-12 08:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

@ # 58.

Do NOT get me started on IL and its financial Insanity. As a life long resident of the State(and NOT from Chicago), let me tell you first hand; this place is freaking full of insane, racist, communists. Freaking State Reps and Senators act like your asking them to live on the moon for a year to Stay in Springfield while the Legislative Session is in even though the State spent MILLIONS rehabbing a Downtown Hotel JUST FOR the Legislators to stay in during Session. But then again I am not TO surprised. I mean the average Illinoisan Voter is/was ignorant enough to reelected Rod Blagoiavich.....I mean sure I can chalk up the FIRST election a grasping for change, not unlike a shipwreck survivor grasping for any floating timber, after Gov Ryans, License for Bribes scandal. Which was actually a License's-for Mexicans-For bribes, but that part gets left out...........
But to vote for hima SECOND time after EVERYTHING that was in the news, and the "The damn Seat is GOLD" statement....Hell I don't know HOW he won, cause I can't find ONE person who will openly admit they Voted for him the Second time.......kinda weird.......

#63 | Posted by GotTruth at 2014-02-13 06:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

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