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Toronto Mayor Rob Ford lost his bid to remove a gay pride flag from city hall's rooftop on Friday. Ford told reporters he didn't agree with complying with the request by the 519 Church Street Community Center to express solidarity with gay athletes and the LGBTQ community in Russia. "This about the Olympics, this about being patriotic to your country," Ford said. "I think he's clearly demonstrating that he is homophobic, that he is bigoted," said Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam, an openly gay member of the council. "There's video recordings of him saying homophobic and bigoted things. But I'm very pleased to say that we have the full support of the deputy mayor."

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This is stupid. I know this is Canada, but a government building should not be flying a gay pride flag. How about, next, we fly a catholic flag, or fly an NRA flag on top of the capital building, or maybe a Moose lodge flag. No group's flag should be flying up there.

#2 | Posted by LEgregius at 2014-02-09 09:19 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

You got that right leg.

#3 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-02-09 11:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

Are you one of those so-called intellectuals that think being gay is a choice, like choosing to be a Moose? Wow.

#4 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-09 12:05 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

This is stupid. I know this is Canada, but a government building should not be flying a gay pride flag. How about, next, we fly a catholic flag, or fly an NRA flag on top of the capital building, or maybe a Moose lodge flag. No group's flag should be flying up there.
#2 | Posted by LEgregius at 2014-02-09 09:19 AM

So, in your view it was also abusive to fly the flag of other nations - including the Salvation Army and their Toronto Rotary Club flags? They should strictly stick with their local Toronto and their national flag only? Why?

#5 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-02-09 03:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

But, it's such a pretty flag.

#6 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-09 06:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

**** Could this mean that Big Sweet Robbie is actually...in the CLOSET?
...Watch for the new (Real Horrors) videos!

#7 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-02-09 08:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Whatever you view, Rob Ford really can't afford any more bad publicity, he should shut up and hope people forget what a total idiot he is.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2014-02-09 08:21 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

How about, next, we fly a catholic flag, or fly an NRA flag on top of the capital building, or maybe a Moose lodge flag.

If the country chose to make a statement regarding Russia's treatment of catholics, NRA members or Moose lodges, then maybe.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2014-02-09 08:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

Of course, this flag has no business being flown. Frankly, I along with others are getting pretty sick and tired of these folks shoving their agenda down everyone else's throat.

#10 | Posted by matsop at 2014-02-09 08:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I along with others are getting pretty sick and tired of these folks shoving their agenda down everyone else's throat."

YEah, human rights is so tiresome. IF it were your rights being denied I suspect you might feel differently.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2014-02-09 08:36 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Frankly, I along with others are getting pretty sick and tired of these folks shoving their agenda down everyone else's throat.

Oh please.

Tell me, though, what was your opinion on the shutdown that apparently never was?

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2014-02-09 08:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Frankly, I along with others are getting pretty sick and tired of these folks shoving their agenda down everyone else's throat."

So ridiculous. Yeah, those damned Canadian homosexuals. They're ruining your life, man!

#13 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-09 09:14 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

"Are you one of those so-called intellectuals that think being gay is a choice, like choosing to be a Moose?"

Ever go to Moose lodge? They had no choice.
Being gay, at least actively gay, is a choice.

#14 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-09 11:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Being gay, at least actively gay, is a choice.

So being actively hetero is a choice?

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2014-02-09 11:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, it is, JPW. It's not as if we have no choice what to DO.
In the meantime, we need a heterosexual pride flag. See what 'liberals' think when it is flown over a city hall.

#16 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-10 12:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, it is, JPW. It's not as if we have no choice what to DO.

LOL so in your view every trait inherent in your personality is a "choice"?

I'm sorry, but to say I make a choice when I engage in heterosexual relations instead of homosexual is just an over-simplified pile of nonsense.

That is unless you yourself feel attractions to both and honestly do make a choice to bat for a specific team.

In the meantime, we need a heterosexual pride flag. See what 'liberals' think when it is flown over a city hall.

Go for it. You seem to think Christians a persecuted majority. That would be just as petty.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2014-02-10 01:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, it is, JPW. It's not as if we have no choice what to DO.
In the meantime, we need a heterosexual pride flag. See what 'liberals' think when it is flown over a city hall.

#16 | Posted by Diablo a

I tell you what, when heterosexuals are subject to the hatred the bigotry and the violence and being told that God hates and despise their very being, or at least that the way nature has made them is some how sinful.
Then yes I will agree with you we will need a Heterosexual pride flag flying at city hall

#18 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-02-10 02:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Being gay, at least actively gay, is a choice."

devil means that whenever a straight couple have sex out of wedlock or WITHOUT INTENTION OF CONCEIVING A BABY, then it is a sin; that straights have the choice to have that sinful sex. (under that logic, no gay sex can be sanctified.)

but we still should distinguish between a sin & a crime, for when the above definition of sinful straight sex becomes a crime, then the church is the state.

then there is the reasonable logic that sex is legitimate for intimacy, bonding, and yes, for pleasure, if precautions are taken to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Catholics who adhere to that logic are absolved in the confessional (as should be gay Catholics). (in Don Jon the (anti-)hero had a ritual every Sunday of confessing the number of times he viewed porn for the purpose of self-gratification, which was quite frequently.)

#19 | Posted by kenx at 2014-02-10 08:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Actively gay"? You mean, having sex with someone of the same sex? So weird.

20: Wow. How do you stand up on that slippery mountain? I never took you for a fool, Jest, but that's a damned foolish pair of questions?

#21 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-10 09:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

in this case, the issue: Is Putin's crackdown on gays coinciding with the international games in Russia just cause for Toronto to show solidarity with the gay community of that city and the world by flying the rainbow flag on city hall? For a homophobic, crack-addicted mayor, NO, it is not.

i suggest the straight flag be the rainbow also, tuned upside down, so that violet is the top color & red the bottom. (people are basically the same, get it?) and i hope proud straight people everywhere fly this flag.

#22 | Posted by kenx at 2014-02-10 10:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Wow. How do you stand up on that slippery mountain? I never took you for a fool, Jest, but that's a damned foolish pair of questions?"

I think YOU are the foolish one. Do you think I really expected an answer? Are you saying the gay flag on the city hall roof is a slippery slope? Or maybe you're just trying to rattle my cage? (Fail) What in hell ARE you trying to say? (Answer in ten words or less, please.)

#23 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2014-02-10 01:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Heard on the radio this morning they were waking up Canadian players in the middle of the night for testing. Wonder if it has to do with the flag.

#24 | Posted by patron at 2014-02-10 03:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

I guess we could give equal access. If the skin heads march, we could see a Nazi flag there. If the Irish march,(stagger), we could see their tricolor. or the Italian tricolor on Columbus Day or the French tricolor on one of their surrender anniversaries, pick one of many. Either no access or equal access.

#25 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-02-10 04:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

#25

You are the true champion of equality for all. Remain vigilant.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-02-10 04:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Are you one of those so-called intellectuals that think being gay is a choice, like choosing to be a Moose? Wow.
#4 | POSTED BY HARRY_POWELL

Is being African a choice? Africans have the same problems in Russia, even more so, where over half have been attacked......

Yet I don't see the same "attitude" or solidarity.....

Do you think they will fly this flag over the city hall when WorldCup starts, or Rio2016 in Brazil?

44% of worlds violence against LGBT occurs in Brazil......
www.lgbtqnation.com

Don't misunderstand, I am a LGBT fan, but sometimes all the overzealous parading is more about them, than matching with reality.

#28 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-02-10 04:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

23: Why did you conflate the two? (Six words.)

#29 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-10 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's stupid and illogical. (Four more words.)

#30 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-10 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Why did you conflate the two? (Six words.)"

Which two?

"That's stupid and illogical. (Four more words.)"

If you say so...

#31 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2014-02-10 05:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Is being African a choice? Africans have the same problems in Russia"

#28 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Gee, that's swell. The story is about Canada.

#33 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-10 06:08 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#33 ~ actually i think AM raises a valid point. I'd guess the majority of Africans in Russia have had to choose between being discriminated against & assaulted or being dead in their homeland.

#34 | Posted by kenx at 2014-02-10 06:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Which two?"

Now you're just being obtuse. Have fun with your game.

#35 | Posted by pragmatist at 2014-02-10 06:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Are we sure Jest isn't talking about the "North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes"?

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-02-10 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Wait, you mean there's a different one?

#37 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-02-10 07:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

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