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Saturday, February 01, 2014

President Barack Obama has persuaded some of the nation's largest companies, including Walmart, Apple, General Motors and Ford, to revamp their hiring practices to avoid discriminating against applicants who have been out of work for a long stretch of time. Obama hosted a group of corporate chief executives at the White House on Friday to highlight those efforts and the use of presidential persuasion to help the jobless find work.

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In all, White House officials said, about 300 businesses have agreed to new hiring policies, including 21 of the nation's 50 largest companies and 47 of the top 200.

"Folks who've been unemployed the longest often have the toughest time getting back to work," Obama said at the White House event. "It's a cruel catch-22 -- the longer you're unemployed, the more unemployable you may seem. Now this is an illusion, but it's one that, unfortunately, we know statistically is happening out there."

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LOL beat up on the 1%, then demand they hire more!!

#1 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-01-31 06:15 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#1

Yep I like it.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2014-01-31 06:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

"...to avoid discriminating against applicants who have been out of work for a long stretch of time."

I'll look for Torricelli to be sacking bags at the local Walmart.

#3 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-01 02:34 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

I don't think I would hire someone who hasn't worked in 2 years.

#4 | Posted by shirtsbyeric at 2014-02-01 10:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah sure you do. How many people does george soros employ corky??

#5 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-01 06:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Compared to the Koch brothers?

What's the matter you afraid to answer?????

#6 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-01 06:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Like walmart is going to provide more than basic jobs.

#7 | Posted by Tor at 2014-02-01 06:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

What! I thought unemployment has been getting lower since Obama became president.

#8 | Posted by Ray at 2014-02-01 06:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is not about lowering unemployment.

There will be no net gain in unemployment because for every long term person hired a short term person will not be hired.

The White House even acknowledged this point. It is Obama double speak. Throw money at the problem with no result but claim otherwise.

That guy can lick both cheeks at the same time.

rwd

#9 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2014-02-01 07:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Yeah sure you do. How many people does george soros employ corky??"

The companies he is invested in employ thousands if not millions, his investments are every bit as valid as the Koch brothers or the Waltons. BTW, he didn't inherit his wealth like the Kochs and the WAltons.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2014-02-01 08:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

#10....What does the source of ones wealth have to do with anything.

Are you just another envious Democrat political hack?

#11 | Posted by Visitor2 at 2014-02-01 08:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

#11

You have it right, nobody is allowed ot have money except the select democrats, did you miss that one?

This is rich, Obummer who keeps vilifying those that have worked hard for thier money asking them to help him. Bet he got a bunch of lip service, who wants to help a political hack like Obummer? Especiallly one that tries to destroy their business.

Soros simply manipulates people and money, people like the Koch's and Waltons actually contribute to the health of the economy through the sale of goods and services that creates employment. Big difference.

#12 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-01 11:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

The economy is in shambles.
However, Obama's rhetoric is very revealing:

Obama is simply a bystander that is trying to fix Bush's mess.

Oh my most serious gosh!

#13 | Posted by pajama_boy at 2014-02-02 12:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Oh one more thing... pig brain....social change for the betterment of all and not the few always prevails. Always, always, always... pig brains like you may as well step out of the way.

#15 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-02-02 03:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

"...social change for the betterment of all and not the few always prevails. Always, always, always..."

Just ask Leon Trotsky. Worked for him.

#16 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-02 04:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

The oil is running out and all the kings horses and all the kings men can't do #$%^ all about it.

So they will pretend to do something so that you idiots will continue to do as you are told.

#17 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-02-02 08:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

#14

Oh I forgot, anyone that does not share right is wrong's view point is a lair. What a narrow minded idiot.

#18 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-02 09:37 AM | Reply | Flag:


Yep I like it.

#2 | Posted by Corky

I think you would enjoy living in France much better. Why don't you move there. The majority of Americans don't like what Obama is doing and all he's "Done" to this country will be put back to normal over the next few Congresses.

#19 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-02 09:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

Oh one more thing... pig brain....social change for the betterment of all and not the few always prevails. Always, always, always... pig brains like you may as well step out of the way.

#15 | Posted by RightisTrite

In the 1960's, there was a need for social change. There wasn't six years ago. Most Americans agree with me.

Tell me. What social change was needed so badly that Obama and the Democrat led Congress of 2008 had to cause this long period of unemployment?

#20 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-02 09:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Obama Seeks Help for Long-Term Jobless". Why doesn't he just resign? That would help.

#21 | Posted by outbacker at 2014-02-02 10:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

10 lol another post proving your ignorance. You prove your sheepishly blind arrogance daily!!!

Wanna place your reputation on this haha, I DARE you!!

#22 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-02 10:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

Most Americans agree with me.

Not in 2012 and they will not in 2014.

#23 | Posted by Nixon at 2014-02-02 10:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

Everyone pay attention to #10. Danni loves Soros, and proves her standing in the OWS gang.

They are hypocrites to the highest order. Either she lies on purpose, or she's so confused she can't remember her previous posts. Either way, her opinions??

TRASH

#24 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-02 10:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

22 I'm calling you out danni

#25 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-02 10:51 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Koch industries...70,000 employees. Many US union employees.

How many for Soros Danni???

#26 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-02 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

#15 | POSTED BY RIGHTISTRITE

I thought Obama worshippers would agree he turned the economy around. Stock market up, corporate profits up, unemployment down. QE working. Is this an admission it's all lies?

#27 | Posted by Ray at 2014-02-02 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why does he need help since he has a phone and a pen???

#28 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-02-02 12:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm just dying to hear the companies he owns, and employees on his payroll.

What he doesn't own any (real manufacturing or industrial) companies!!?? Looks like you are again exposed as a disingenuous debater, who is hypocritical to the core. As a girl who rails against the 1% doing nothing to add to the world's economy...here you PRAISE ONE!!!

How dare you say you belong to OWS yet praise a speculator who's never owned a 'real' company is his life. There is NO WAY you can now tell us Hedge Fund guys are good!!!!!

I think it's time you get on here an admit you words 'were poorly chosen'.

#29 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-02 01:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

I thought Obama worshippers would agree he turned the economy around. Stock market up, corporate profits up, unemployment down. QE working. Is this an admission it's all lies?
#27 | POSTED BY RAY AT 2014-02-02 11:02 AM | FLAG: DOESN'T PAY ATTENTION

I guess you missed the part about just how screwed up the economy was as Bush left office. Well if you missed that little tid bit of fact perhaps you did notice that the past two elections Bush was persona non grata at either event because lets face it the republiclowns were so stunned by the economic failure they used the likes of Sarah Palin to buoy them and later ol' member of the later day 47% ers hissef as their shiney object to draw attention. I'm guessing its about as close as the gonadless wonders can bring themselves to hari kari.

Oh well anything to divert the attention from discussing just how bad it was. I guess they tired of cringing when ever the replay of his "Abandon the free market to save it" with the peppering of the well gee wiz I did try to put some regulation in the they wouldn't let me boo hoo's that came from the mouth of decider himself quasi apology get played.

It is going to take years to untangle the mess left in the wake... it should have happened sooner but it seems the most current diversion from the republiclown cadre of ineptitudes... that spunky little Cruz whacko... who "manned the helm so congress could spend three years working on a project and not succeed. (pssst they were trying to rewrite the constitution) but don't tell anyone.

Frankly that boy scares me.. too much like Reagan in the fact while Reagan couldn't remember being president a year after he left office Cruz can't remember shutting down the government a month after he did it! Both accomplishments are really big deals too!! Not passing legislation in three years when we've been confronted with a staggering economy and a pair of calls to arms it stupid.

Almost as stupid as Bush whose stupidity is surpassed only by those who voted for him.... twice. You know if you pig brains would talk about it... instead of shoving it under the sty we might get some things fixed faster. I mean that continuing the Bush tax thing ... welll we know what the top 1% did with that... they took the money they promised was going to trickle down into more jobs for Americans and started jobs else where... like in other countries.

Now the floppy feet clownies like Boazo occasionally pause wonder why they are called greedy.. finds it all too complex... shrugs and returns to sucking off the government teat.

Anyway those of us on the left know its going to take a long time to fix things... while those on the right seem to think Obama is the messiah and should be able to do it like (snap) water into wine.... and crucify him everything he moves the world in that direction.. which is a lot btw.

#30 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-02-02 01:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anyway those of us on the left know its going to take a long time to fix things... while those on the right seem to think Obama is the messiah and should be able to do it like (snap) water into wine....

#30 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-02-02 01:18 PM | Reply |

RIT,I believe you're trying to revise history----remember, it was the left and partisans that thought the Obummer was the messiah---why else did you guys put a guy into the WH that had no resume and no experience along with cheering widely about his hopey and changey. You're really a funny man.

#31 | Posted by matsop at 2014-02-02 03:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Isn't Danni funny, pretending not to see my challenge?

Pathetic

#32 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2014-02-02 06:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

As if a POTUS doesn't have enough legitimate work to do, now Obama is going to instruct our nations businesses how to hire people for there workforce. Obama is so out of his depth it isn't even funny.

#33 | Posted by danv at 2014-02-02 07:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

As if a POTUS doesn't have enough legitimate work to do, now Obama is going to instruct our nations businesses how to hire people for there workforce. Obama is so out of his depth it isn't even funny.
#33 | POSTED BY DANV AT 2014-02-02 07:18 PM | REPLY | FLAG:ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY

What have the conservatrons done the past 13 years? Screw ups in spades. You've gotten nothing right... well maybe two things but that is it. Then you sit there and say Obama is out of his depth.. like you would know? Seriously.. you know you screwed things up so bad you can't even talk about it. You can't!! You flat out can;t talk about it because to do so would mean facing up to how bad you screwed things up and

RIT,I believe you're trying to revise history----remember, it was the left and partisans that thought the Obummer was the messiah---why else did you guys put a guy into the WH that had no resume and no experience along with cheering widely about his hopey and changey. You're really a funny man.

#31 | POSTED BY MATSOP AT 2014-02-02 03:16 PM | REPLY | FLAG:RYE ROLL

Oh please... I'm a liberal.. liberals are atheists ergo.. no messiah... hellloooo! Seriously you clowns pulled that one out of your own butts.. Which is what the clown party had devolved into... weirdos pulling wierd stuff out of their hineys. Let me illustrate how I know this. In he mean time cite one person on the left thal called him messiah.

You see that is just another one of those stories the righty tighty Christian fringe factions love to cite... you know... because they have all this biblical prophesy where some guy wilL come claiming to be the christ. Your politicians get out there and tell you what we believe when they have now way of knowing.

See funny thing about Obama especially the first year... you clowns said so many things about him.. that he never said that you believed it. Like he was peacenick soft on terrorism... he never said anything to indicate he would be... in fact just the opposite. So convincing was you=r sales pitch that all the peacenicks got off their buts and hit the voting booths... and ... so in effect you kicked your own @$$&$!!! Boy did they feel dumb for believing you!!

Obama kicks your sorry @$$&$repeatedly and the best thing you can come up with is how he lacks experience. ergo he must suck. Well... you've pitted your brightest, best and most experienced against him and he wins!! Every time!! Every time... let me say it again HE KICKS YOUR COLLECTIVE @$$&$ EVERY TIME!!

Pay attention... you haven't won a single thing when in your team challenges to Obama. You know why? Because you don't have to nads to look at how bad you screwed up with Bush. You just sweep it under the rug and blame Obama as if Bush never happened.

Oh wait... yeah.. the extension of the Bush tax cuts... so you could prove that lower taxes help the economy... and guess what.. you were wrong. I mean it sucks that the misery had to be spread out over another two years....for you to find out you are wrong. Big win.. people hate you for it. As it becomes more apparent how badly you have screwed up. What do you have to show for it? Well let me see...hmmm oh yeah... FUXSUZE has huge rating!!! hooray. Republiclown happy dance!!

You do realize you set your self up for this one. You walked right in to this looking stupid because because you accused Obama of being in over his head when your team have produced nothing but disasters in the past 13 years... what does that say about you? He's an idiot... well you are bigger idiots because you always lose against him. He had no resume and won...You have no credibility in maters political because you don;t choose well

Geeze like shooting pigs in a barrel.

#34 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-02-03 02:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Obama Seeks Help for Long-Term Jobless"

Obama is going to resign??

#35 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-02-03 03:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

#34

Rightiswrong is living in fantasyland. Obummer has done nothing while in office, unless you consider forcing 6 million people off their healthcare and into a much more expensive inadequate government system a success. He is a failure on jobs, the economy, foreign policy, in fact he has failed on everything.

You seem to forget, or are too young to know, that Reagan inherited a much worse economy than Obummer. The prime interest rates, that is the rate lenders charge their most creditworthy customers. were at 20% plus. Inflation was at 12 to 15 per cent per year, the housing market had crashed, the price of a gallon of gas was at an all time high, the unemployment was well over 8%, the result of the liberal agenda of Jimmy Carter. Reagan turned it around within 16 months and we went on to have one of the longest periods of prosperity in our history.

Now look at Obummer, prime rates were at an all time low, housing market had crashed, thanks to democrats and their put everybody needs to own thier own house no matter what scheme, yes that is what caused the housing crash. Inflation was running at about 3 to 4 percent per year, gasoline was under $2.00 per gallon, unemployment was just under 7%.

Here we are five years later, Obummer and company have juggles the numbers to show a lower unemployment rate, it is actually around 11% the U6 number that measures everybody not just unemployment check recipients, the stock market is going sky high as a result of the fed adding 85 bilion dollars a month to our debt and using it to prop up the stock market, in fact the only people doing well are Obummer's friends on Wall Street, the guys that gave 80% plus of thier campaign contributions to Obummer and the democrats.

The humerous part is idiots like you believe the liar in chief when he comes out and tells you he is going to help the poor and middle class, his policies have done the direct opposite, just look at the numbers. Now he comes to the business people, hat in hand, and begs them to hire the long term unemployed that are the result of his failed policies. You cannot blame Bush for this 5 years after the fact, that is just plain stupid, Obummer needs to take responsibility, which he won't.

Funny how the facts do not support your rant.

#36 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-03 08:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

RightisTrite,

I feel bad for you. You have this blind devotion to Obama, so much that you make ---- up. You wrote a hell of a lot of crap on this thread. Wow.

Not one single sentence was based in truth-- all made up.

#37 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 08:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obummer has done nothing while in office
#36 | Posted by gtjr

Actually this in not true.

Obama has done enough that it will take a Republican Congress and American industry decades to make up.

#38 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 08:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

it will take a Republican Congress

#38 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014

When did people start liking Republicans again? Seriously.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 09:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

Republican Congress

#38 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 08:55

You didn't say Republican president. That's wise, because there won't be.

Poor GOP. Caught in a Hell of its own making. A place they've populated with RINOS and loons.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 09:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

Most Americans agree with me.

Not in 2012 and they will not in 2014.

#23 | Posted by Nixon

They did in 2010, 2012 and will in 2014 and 2016. You forget that the Republicans are taking over. Tea Party Republicans are growing.

What are you talking about?

#41 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 09:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

You forget that the Republicans are taking over.

#41 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 09:51 AM | Reply

In order to forget something, you have to know it in the first place. What I see is the Tea Party declining and sucking the mainstream GOP down into the abyss with it.

Its confusing to me. If you all are riding a wave, why didn't it wash away any sand in 2016?

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 10:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

You forget that the Republicans are taking over.

#41 | Posted by LastAmerican at

If Republicans and the Tea Party were ought but scared sh--less, Ted Cruz would still be bragging about his role in stopping the government.

Last time I looked, being humiliated on this subject in front of a giggling Bob Shieffer was much less painful to him than telling the truth.

#43 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 10:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

Eventually a GOP Congressman will come knocking on my door asking for my vote. I'll ask him to explain why he was so hateful to that $35,000 per year National Parks Ranger during the government shut-down.

He'll snarl and say something like, "The she shouldn't have shut it down".

You see what the problem is. There are still millions of people out here who are repelled by mean, not to mention mean and stupid.

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 10:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Then she shouldn't have shut it down...."

Come on over, Ted. Let's have coffee and discuss why yo momma raised you to be such an ass.

#45 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think that I've heard Last American's Last Response.

#46 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 10:39 AM | Reply | Flag:


In order to forget something, you have to know it in the first place. What I see is the Tea Party declining and sucking the mainstream GOP down into the abyss with it.
#42 | Posted by Zed

No. You're not really paying attention are you? I don't blame you for not knowing. You won't get the real story on MSM.

What's happening in the Republican Party is the rise of Fiscal Conservatism which is pushing out Social Conservatism (i.e., Religious Right). The Tea Party Republicans are mostly concentrated fiscal conservatism and almost void of anything social. You may see some of it to bring in the older Bush Republicans but the social extremist are being purged.

But, this is from my point of view. You probably don't pay attention to these things, but I do. You probably could tell me in great detail how the Democrats rebuilt their party in the late 90's and into the 2000's. I certainly can't. The same thing is happening among to the Republicans now. America will swing back to the right again.

#47 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 10:53 AM | Reply | Flag:


...hateful to that $35,000 per year National Parks Ranger during the government shut-down.
#44 | Posted by Zed

HA ha ha ha ha!!

Are you playing ignorant or do you really don't know that Obama did that to the Park Rangers and others involved?

Obama, now, like Bush before him, is responsible. Own it.

#48 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 11:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

America will swing back to the right again.

#47 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 10:53 AMFlag: (Choose)
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America swing like a pendulum do.

But not in 2016.

I think its spiffy that the Tea Party are financial conservatives. This has never been their problem.

The problem is that they are, by-and-large, as crazy as a sack-full of roaches, and insist upon behaving that way in public.

Your "leadership" often blames their behavior on you. They have this funny idea that you want them to lie and bully in order to make a point, and then lie and bully again when the point doesn't quite work out for them.

Um, going to do anything about it? You'll have to live with how silly your attacks on Obama are until you do.

#49 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 11:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

Are you playing ignorant or do you really don't know that Obama did that to the Park Rangers and others involved?

#48 | Posted by LastAmerican at

I know what I watched Rep. Neguebaur (R) do on national television.

See. You're already sliding into crazy. It took nothing, nothing to push you over the edge.

#50 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 11:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

I also know what I saw Sen. Cruz do on national television, several times. Then I got to also see him lie about it the same place.

Poor little nerd must have been pantsed awfully much in middle school.

#51 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 11:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

#49 | Posted by Zed

Ok, dude. Keep believing that. It's a free country.

But, you're wrong. The Senate will be taken in 2014 election and held in 2016. The President at that time will have to behave as Bill Clinton did if the next President is a Democrat. Things got done! I can't wait. It will be a time of prosperity after a Carter-like period of upset mixed in with the doldrums.

I can see that you are upset, calling them liars and bullies, but you are wrong. They are heroes and honorable men and women and will continue to be reelected and their numbers will grow no matter how crazy you and the rest of the Left continue to be.

#52 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 11:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

-The Tea Party Republicans are mostly concentrated fiscal conservatism

In other words, people who never got over the Bush tax cuts being allowed to expire.

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-03 11:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

#50 | Posted by Zed

This is weird. Why did you pick the National Parks? The MSM media pretty much blamed the mishandling on the Obama Administration since that's part of their responsibility (not Congress'). I remember a great deal of attention placed on how mean the Obama Administration was to those Americans involved. It was like the Obama Administration went out of their way to make it a political event and it backfired on them.

#54 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

I also know what I saw Sen. Cruz do on national television...
#51 | Posted by Zed

Who are you, Rachael Maddow? Hahahahahaha

Cruz is successfully making the Obama administration into a bunch of inept buffoons.

Why can't you see both sides?

#55 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

This is weird. Why did you pick the National Parks?

#54 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014

Clearly, what I've picked on are a couple of mean, stupid, and wholly dishonest Republican politicians.

They need to have enough sense to not say what they mean over national media. Or any place they might be recorded.

On second thought, let's just have them both stay home.

#56 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 11:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why can't you see both sides?

#55 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014

Im am really very sorry. In regards to Cruz, like Bob Shieffer I've yet to stop laughing.

#57 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 11:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

-like Bob Shieffer I've yet to stop laughing.

Cruz's denial of involvement in the shutdown is one of the funniest, most surreal political interviews ever seen on TV.

Particularity after his own party had dissed him for it.

#58 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-03 11:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

This is weird.

#54 | Posted by LastAmerican

In truth, only to you.

#59 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 11:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Senate will be taken in 2014 election and held in 2016.

#52 | Posted by LastAmerican at 20

I am more than pleased to give you interesting people whatever shot you think you have at it.

Your prediction versus mine. Fair enough.

#60 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 11:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

They are heroes and honorable men

#52 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 11:15 AMFlag: (Choose)
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Ted Cruz is a Canadian.

#61 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

Don't get me wrong. I like Canada. So apparently does Ted.

#62 | Posted by Zed at 2014-02-03 11:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ok, I see you two thrashing and I'll wait for you to come around.

If you are like this now, what level of denial are you going to descend to come the 2014 election?

#63 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 11:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

I am more than pleased to give you interesting people whatever shot you think you have at it.

Your prediction versus mine. Fair enough.

#60 | Posted by Zed

What do you mean? The Democrats in Congress represent their constituency and are only there if they deserve to be there. That's how it works.

#64 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think that I've heard Last American's Last Response.
#46 | Posted by Zed

Any more last words?

#65 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 12:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Rightiswrong is living in fantasyland. Obummer has done nothing while in office, unless you consider forcing 6 million people off their healthcare blab blab blab were at 20% plus. Inflation was at 12 to 15 per cent per year, the housing market had crashed, the price of a gallon of gas was at an all time high, the blah blah blah...Funny how the facts do not support your rant.

#36 | POSTED BY GTJR AT 2014-02-03 08:40 AM | REPLY | FLAG:CLUELESS

What is really funny is that you don't know what you are talking about. You do know that the Reagan administration was among the most corrupt in US history.

That is a historical fact and all the minutia you prattle on about which relatively speaking did not mean much over all. He killed the middle class with deregulation.

the rest of your dribble is just dribble.

www.factcheck.org

www.usatoday.com

www.californiahealthline.org

You are on the losing side of history. Do you notice why Reagan is less and less of a discussion when the clown brigade tried to justify its stupid? Because the more you talk about him the more scrutiny is paid to his administration and it doesn't look good. The best that can be said was he was a good communicator..so he was charming? Whoopie doo.

Bill Clinton was a far better president and led the nation through a longer more sustained period of economic growth in the nations history.

go ahead continue with your stupid... its clear to me it means a lot to you to be that way.

#66 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-02-03 12:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bill Clinton was a far better president and led the nation through a longer more sustained period of economic growth in the nations history.

Actually, the Republican-led Congress takes full credit for this for forcing Clinton to obey. But to Clinton's credit, he cooperated and it was a win-win for him and the American people.

#67 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Also, I won't get into childish bickering over Reagan's legacy. It stands as the best in recent decades.

I think you are way over the top Trite. I can't take you seriously if you are going to spout your own belief system as truth.

#68 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2014-02-03 01:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Reagan's legacy as told by his own Budget Dirs.

www.rollingstone.com

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-03 01:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Amnesty and another massive corporate only trade agreement should do.

#70 | Posted by daniel_3 at 2014-02-03 01:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

#38

Okay last american you got me there.

#71 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-03 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Rolling Stone? Anything from Ann Landers?

#72 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-02-03 02:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

#66

Figures right is wrong would think a president whose claim to fame is he got a BJ in the oval office was a great president. He also left us with the dot.com crash and never bothered to tell the next administration about the terrorists plotting to attack us. Fortunatly for Clinton is he had a republican congress that refused to roll over and play dead for him like Boehner does for Obummer and as a result made him look good.

You can give me all the left wing websites you want, talk about his appointees that did things that were not right but the proof is Reagan inherited a worse mess than Obummer, and in 16 months he had it turning around. The economy ran very, very well for the next 10 to 12 years. Even the 1990 recession was short and a non-event.

Obummer just sits in the white house and does nothing, except go out on the campaign trail and tell everybody what he is going to do for them.............Mr. President we are still waiting after 5 years when are all these wonderful things you keep talking about going to happen??????? George Bush's fault is not acceptable.

#73 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-03 02:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

#69

Come on Corky, I can believe the Rolling Stone when they write about rock groups, politics? They are totally clueless they need to stick with music that is what they know. If you think they are so great you ought to pick up a National Enquirer or perhaps The Star, they are real accurate too,lol. Although I should not laugh at the Enquirer, if it was not for them John Edwards may never have been exposed. Seems ABC,NBC,CBS, MSNBC, and CNN ignored it until the Enquirer made them look real bad.

Look for a publication without a left wing agenda that has credibility, but then that might be mutually exclusive, credibility and left wing.

#74 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-03 02:17 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#74 |

If you can't believe Reagan's Budget Dirs about Reagan's budgets, who can you believe?

Of course, that would require reading what they have to say.

#75 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-03 02:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you can't believe Reagan's Budget Dirs about Reagan's budgets, who can you believe?

#75 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2014-02-03 02:19 PM | REPLY | FLAG:HI 5

Yes indeed the reagan legacy.

Increased government spending 187%. Iintroduced the country to its first trillion dollar deficit,

Raised the debt ceiling 19 times

Attacked a British protectorate because they hired Cubans and because he had to cover up the scandal where 220 Marines and 21 Americans killed in a single attack in Beruit.

Iran / Contra (Cocaine pipeline) scandal... you know.. selling weapons to Iran and Khomeni the meanie

The savings and loan crisis ... a direct result of deregulation... and the subsequent government bail out. One of the clownies repeaitng patterns.

The HUD scandal or Ronnies grant rigging service.

Of course there is Debategate...

38 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct or criminal violations.

Bush Sr. pardoned Weinberger and kept him from going to trial which would have implicated Reagan in all sorts of nasties.

I know what really gets to the repubilcowns... Obama has has one of the least corrupt presidencies in our history. He has also gone the longest with out a scandal... and they still keep trying to make one.

Oh and BTW GTJR... Jimmy Carter is very well respected around the world. As usual you have nothing... except those lies you and your ilk continue to repeat..

#76 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-02-03 05:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

It's amazing Obama is even acknowledging there is long term out of work population. And it is even grander that he does this and removes the ownership on him but now can cast blame at the employers.

#77 | Posted by moneywar at 2014-02-03 05:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Mr. President we are still waiting after 5 years when are all these wonderful things you keep talking about going to happen??????? George Bush's fault is not acceptable.

#73 | POSTED BY GTJR AT 2014-02-03 02:09 PM | FLAG: BULLHONKERS

That is one of the stupidest premises you use in your arguments. It is. Here's why.

Listen up now... this is real important.

It is perfectly acceptable as long as the effects of it are still in play... and they are. They did not magically disappear when Obama took office!!!

Things like GITMO, two wars... tax laws... lending practices... years of stagnant wages.. waging wars on borrowed money... you know Bush things that did... and do damage to the nation...

You... or anyone like you... are not the one's that get to determine how long this is a valid discussion.

You see... you are the ones that created the problem. As long as you stay in denial your opinion on the matter you have no credibility. You don't because you are not dealing with the it. You are dealing with a piece of fiction you want everyone to believe. Bush is persona non grata in your politics because you don't want to be associated with the screw up... and you don't want to talk about the problems created. You want to bitch about Obama not cleaning them up fast enough for your liking.

So you see YES it is perfectly acceptable and it will ream perfectly acceptable until you pig brains that inserted him into the process own up to it... which seems to mean for ever... or until every last vestige of the damage it did to this economy is gone... which will probably be 20 or 30 years... like the last time clowns did this to the economy. The parallels are astounding and you are too stupid to get it.

Anyone that buys into that feeble argument is an idiot!! Seriously!! If you honestly believe that Obama was able to extract Bush from all that ... then you are the ones who deem his to have predernatural powers and possessing messiah/satanic qualities... not me or anyone else who gets what a huge job he took on.

As long as you play the games you play... like calling the ACA Obamacare and wrapping it up in all the crap rather than discussing it point by point you have nothing meaningful to contribute. The same goes for what it will take to clean up the mess left by the Bush administration ... because you aren;t talking about it... you aren't even talking around it.. you are talking about un related things.

You need to find some republiclowns to man up and start taking responsibility for Just and elect them instead of the dwaddle brains you put in to rewrite the constitution behind a smoke screen of "Obama's stomping on the constitution".

REally it gets down to own up or shut up.

#78 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-02-03 05:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

They did not magically disappear when Obama took office!!!

Nope they didn't, not after the first year, not after the second year, not after the third year, not after the fourth year, and not after the fifth year.

So nothing has changed the entire time Obama has been in office but strangely you still think its bush's fault, now that's ignorance.

#79 | Posted by moneywar at 2014-02-03 06:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

#76

Right is wrong again, obviously you did not have to live through the horror case that was Jimmy Carter's adminsitration. The only people that respect Jimmy Carter outside of the U.S. are the terrorist and America haters. Nobody outside the U.S., that cares about what happens to the U.S., like Isreal and Great Britan, have any respect for that idiot Carter. Now it needs to be said he is a nice guy, totally useless as a president. His administration was a disaster, and if you want to talk about corruption his administration was a classic. When the southern hillbillies he appointed got to Washington they tried to steal everything that was not nailed down. The best thing that happened to America is Jimmy Carter got blown out and went to build houses for habitat for humanity, we would have been further ahead had he went there rather than become president. (like I said Jimmy Carter was a real nice guy, just a loser as a president, and to think I voted for that idiot)

As far as those that had to live in the adult world during the Carter administration will tell you he was a disaster. In fact you can lay the problems in Iran at the feet of Jimmy Carter. He was so stupid he got a sell job from the terrorists in Iran and he sucked it up. While the Shah was a brutal dictator, the current regime makes him look weak.

Needless to say anyone that knows anything about his adminsitration realizes he was one of the biggest buffoons we have ever had for a president. And rightfully so he went down in history as the worst president we ever had, that is until Obummer is out fo office and he will assume the worst president ever mantle.

As far as Reagan is concerned, surprise, the congress raises the debt limit, not the president, and of course we had a democrat congress. In fact it is the congress that passes the budget. If everything you claim Reagan was responsible for was true we would not need a congress.

#80 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-03 09:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

#78

Right is wrong again!!!!!!

Wake up moron, Reagan took a worse disaster and started to turn it around in 16 months. The idiot in the white house now has done NOTHING to turn things around in FIVE YEARS, except flap his jaws, nothing more. Reagan had a much worse situation than Obummer.

By the way how can you tell when Obummer is lying?????

When his lips are moving!!!!!

But I know you will keep drinking the kool aid, so nobody pays much attention to your posts. I am amazed though at how you fabricate stories to make democrats look good. Unfortunately making Obummer and Carter look good is like trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear, just is not going to happen.

#81 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-03 09:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Reagan took a worse disaster and started to turn it around in 16 months.

Worse? In what way?

#82 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-02-03 09:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Reagan took a worse disaster and started to turn it around in 16 months.

Worse? In what way?
#82 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2014-02-03 09:42 PM | FLAG:

Worse because he got shot in the head. And he turned it around by handing his presidency over to Goldman sacs.

Who cares if "turned it around" means "destroyed America".

The fine print isn't really meant to be read.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-02-03 09:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

=If everything you claim Reagan was responsible for was true we would not need a congress.

Those Dem congresses never past a Budget that was more than what Reagan had requested.

#84 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-03 10:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

passed.... I sound like MW.

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2014-02-03 10:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

#82

Rustybeach

When Reagan took office unemployment was over 8%, prime interest rates were 20%+, of course with interest rates that high the real estate market had crashed, there was a gas shotage and the prices were very high for the time (the look cheap compared to today) Obviously with interest rates that high you can imagine how busienss slowed down. The worst part about it was we had just pretty much gotten over the oil embago that destroyed everything in the 73-74 time frame, and Carter got elected and he was clueless and we went down again.

Contrast that with Obummer inheriting an unemployment rate of under 7% (yes I know it increased, but it did the same thing under Reagan) interest rates at all time lows, Real estate crashed, gas was under $2.00 per gallon and plentiful.

That is what I am referring to, I had a family to raise at that time and I remember it all too well. Things were not easy.

#86 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-03 10:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

#83

Clownshack I guess if you figure that the unemployment dropped to extremely low levels, interest rates got down to normal levels, people were making money and buying houses, cars, appliances. Small businesses were booming. The number of people living in poverty was the lowest in at least twenty years. People had more disposable income as a result of the tax cuts. Yep, those were sure horrible times, wish Obummer could give us those horrible awful times, but he is too incompetent.

I guess to some success is a downer, perhaps Clownshack you need to move to North Korea, Venezeula, or Cuba so you can enjoy the Obummer economy every year with no improvement in sight.

#87 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-02-03 11:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

#87 | POSTED BY GTJR

Thank you for the insight, but it was a little more complicated than that, I'm afraid:

Anyone reading the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal should have noticed several pieces comparing President Obama's economic recovery to that of President Reagan's. They all conclude that the Reagan recovery was strong, creating plenty of jobs, while the Obama recovery is weak, creating very few jobs.

While this comparison is right, it leads to wrong conclusion. First, let's get the context, the conditions and circumstances of the two Presidencies. When President Reagan assumed office, a strong headwind that had pushed the US economy into the 1981-82 recession turned into a tailwind. The price of oil, for instance, dropped from around $36 in 1982 to $12 by 1988 in current dollars; and from $70 to $20 in 2010 dollars.

By contrast, the price of oil increased from around $55 in 2008 to $90 by 2012 (in 2010 dollars). Also, the 1980s was a period when the rest of the world and most notably Japan and Europe enjoyed the bright side of globalization, stimulating rather than impending US economic growth, as has been the case in the last four years.

Second, when President Reagan assumed office, the Federal Reserve enjoyed a great deal of credibility. After bringing inflation under control during the Carter years with monetary tightening, Paul Volcker (appointed by President Carter and re-appointed by President Reagan) had plenty of room to reverse course, cutting short-term interest rates from around 20 percent in 1982 to around 6 percent in 1988!...So, what's the conclusion?

Economic growth and job creation have very little to do with whether a Republican or a Democrat is in the White House, but a lot to do with the context, the conditions and circumstances while in office.

That and the soundness of Federal Reserve policies designed to deal with these conditions and circumstaces (sic)

www.forbes.com

#88 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-02-03 11:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

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