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Tuesday, January 28, 2014

On the eve of the State of the Union speech, Republican Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina and two other GOP senators offered a plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act and replace it with a plan Burr says would lower costs and expand access to coverage. His proposal would keep popular elements of Obamacare: the ban on limits on lifetime insurance benefits and the option for people to keep adult children on their plans until age 26. But the rest is different, and its rollout the day before the president's annual report to Congress helped put Republican ideas on how to replace the law into public debate, though it has virtually no chance of passing as long as the Senate is controlled by Democrats.

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Is anyone surprised? They get purple renouncing the program and end up proposing one just as leviathan and expensive. The 'alternative' party....uh-huh.

#1 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-01-27 11:04 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

This bill is a massive and unprecedented takeover of one-fifth of the U.S. economy. Did I wake up this morning in North Korea?

#2 | Posted by rcade at 2014-01-28 09:14 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Lite is right!

#3 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-01-28 12:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Insurance companies would be allowed to charge older people five times what they charge younger ones, compared to the 3 to 1 ratio allowed under Obamacare. The Republican senators say that the result would lower health care costs for many."

That one feature would prevent millions of folks between 50 and 65 from being able to afford insurance.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2014-01-28 12:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Is his plan going to keep the part of ObamaCare where we don't track who's paying? That seems to be very popular.

#5 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-01-28 12:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

"the Patient Choice, Affordability, Responsibility and Empowerment Act."

rofl!

Republicans come out with healthcare and immigration proposals right before the SOTU and expect to be taken seriously.

"we did... something!"

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2014-01-28 12:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

obamacare needs to be repealed. If this country can repeal an amendment to the Constitution [like prohibition] it surely can rid itself of this f***ed up law.

#7 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-01-28 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

And once the bill takes effect, the uninsured with pre-exisiting conditions [a/k/a THE SICK], need not be allowed to get any insurance.

Ergo: Don't get sick. But if you're stupid enough to do so, die quickly.

Well who wouldn't want that? It sounds nice.

#8 | Posted by 88120rob at 2014-01-28 02:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

I bet every GOPiggy will be holding a copy of this document. They think appearance is better than substance.

#9 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-01-28 03:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

I think it's a stupid idea to trot this out today. But then again, the GOP has offered alternatives before and the MSM ignores them.

#10 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-01-28 03:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

It would keep popular elements of Obamacare, eh?

After many years, a presidential election, nearly fifty repeal fails and millions already signed up, now they offer an alternative?

#11 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-01-28 03:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

#11 They need something, most of the millions who have signed up havn't paid!

#12 | Posted by fishpaw at 2014-01-28 03:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

On the up side, at least they showed it to the public before it became law.

#13 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-01-28 03:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

After many years, a presidential election, nearly fifty repeal fails and millions already signed up, now they offer an alternative?

#11 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-01-28 03:21 PMFlag: (Choose)
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They're eating their livers to be forced even this far in Obama's direction. Six years of hating the man and they've just begun to concede they've played the tail to his dog.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2014-01-28 03:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

How odd. The article didn't say a single word about birth control pills in the Republican's plan. It must be in the fine print.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-01-28 04:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

TWINPAC -

You'll find it covered in the section headed "Libido Control"

#16 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2014-01-28 04:18 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

The article didn't say a single word about birth control pills in the Republican's plan. It must be in the fine print.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac

We have to pass the bill to know what's in it.

#17 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-01-28 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

obamacare needs to be repealed. If this country can repeal an amendment to the Constitution [like prohibition] it surely can rid itself of this f***ed up law.

#7 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2014-01-28 02:16 PM | REPLY | FLAG:SOUR GRAPES

You're wrong. All your sky is falling stories are B.S.. You put pig brains in charge of your party and you lost. This is how things in the real world play out.

Three years in charge of congress rather than create an alternative they spent all their time voting amongst themselves to repeal it... and losing btw. In the process of all that repeal writing they did nothing else.

It was argued before the supreme court and lost.

Even now, not a single whiney sniveling opponent to the ACA, such as yourself, has the ------ to discuss it by name because to do so would mean having read it and discuss it point by point and say why the situation before it came be was the better alternative or what ever it is you think would work better. You won't because you are too lazy and you are counting on the pig brains you elected to do that for you. They depend on you staying stupid.

Either you have no actual ideas (which is my guess) or you don't know what else to do and lack the nads to admit that. You stick with the fantasy land disaster you have created in your own head and you want to drag everyone in there with you. Either way you are pulling the ignorant card and not every one wants to be as stupid as you are being. Face it, wasting time thinking up nightmare scenarios rather than using your creative impulses to come up with a better alternative is more to your liking because you really don't want to think about it. Its easier for you to just pick a side for no apparent reason. The nadless wonders of the clown brigade count on your particular brand of stupid because for the past three years they have squealed about how it was killing the economy when in fact it hadn't even been enacted because it had been mired in appeals court.

#18 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-01-28 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 6

"The article didn't say a single word about birth control pills in the Republican's plan. It must be in the fine print."

or it's not. Thus, giving the power back to the carrier and the employer to decide to cover it or not.

most will cover it, as they do know.

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2014-01-28 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

I hope RightisTrite likes Executive Orders to revise laws. Payback will have him in convulsions.

#20 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-01-28 04:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

#20 | Posted by wisgod

Obama's not really above the average on number of Executive Orders issued, compared to the last several presidents.

Executive order

#21 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-01-28 06:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

I think we should pass it to see what's in it.

#22 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-01-28 06:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

I think we should pass it to see what's in it.

#22 | POSTED BY SAMES1

And I bet you don't even know that that is true about all major legislation, in both D and R Congresses for many decades.

...I know, "Obama's Fault!"

#23 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-01-28 08:47 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

You'll find it covered in the section headed "Libido Control"

#16 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

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#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-01-29 11:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

didn't read the plan...BUT it just CANT BE RIGHT..

the GOP HAS NO PLAN....at least that's what we've heard from the first REPUBLiCAN amendment voted down by the democrats until now...

#25 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-01-29 11:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

doesn't matter anyway...if it passed the house..HARRY REID WOULD BLOCK it like he has DOZENS Of job bills and such from the gop house..

UH OH I'm sorry..it's the GOP who blocks everything

sorry...

psfzt !!!

#26 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-01-29 11:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

doesn't matter anyway...if it passed the house..HARRY REID WOULD BLOCK it like he has DOZENS Of job bills and such from the gop house..

#26 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

The House hasn't passed a jobs bill or such.

#27 | Posted by Sycophant at 2014-01-29 12:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

A jobs bill is not mandated by the Constitution, unlike an annual budget, Syc.
No matter...trivial, right?

#28 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-01-30 03:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

#27

Incorrect Sycophant,

The house passed a number of jobs bills in the last two sessions, it is just when they go to the senate Reid ignores them. You see the problem is the republican jobs bills actully will create jobs and allow the population to be more indepedant of government. The democrats loathe anything that does not make the population depend on D.C. for their livelyhood. It is really that simple, just like Obummer keeps saying he will work with republicans, yet everytime they propose anything he blows it off, but then everybody is getting used to a president that is a total liar. He tells you kool aid drinkers what you want to hear and does the opposite.

Let me point out a few examples, "my administration will be the most transparent in history" not! Or "One of the first things I will do when elected is close Gitmo" How is that working out for you? "I will create jobs for hte middle class" yet the keystone pipeline, a source of thousands of jobs, remains held up by his administration. And of course the classic, "If you like your helathcare you can keep it" or "you can keep your doctor" he uttered these words at least 3 dozen times but knew in July of 2010 that they were not true. These are but a few and if you go through his speeches you can see you have been punked.

And somehow you wonder why the republicans do not trust him? He is a pathelogical liar, he would lie if it was easier to tell the truth. Now democrats, that will be looking for employment after Nov 2014 elections, are starting to question him. Just keep drinking the kool aid and when you wake up all of your freedoms will be gone.

#29 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-01-30 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

More political posturing for idiot sheeple.

#30 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-01-30 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hell of a tax implication for this GOP attempt. Once folks find that out, the attacks on the ACA and taxes will be seen as a compete joke.

Right now 4 out of 5 Americans health care plans aren't taxed.

This plan will force a minimum tax of 35 percent on those plans, and if you have better plans, more than that.

#31 | Posted by YAV at 2014-01-30 10:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The house passed a number of jobs bills in the last two sessions"

Such as?????

#32 | Posted by danni at 2014-01-30 10:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Thus, giving the power back to the carrier and the employer to decide to cover it or not."

Which is exactly why it needs to be mandated by law.

#33 | Posted by danni at 2014-01-30 10:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

Pick the plan by these three senators apart but one thing it does that is of paramount importance it allows you to choose your healhtcare plan, your doctor, in other words you are not told by a bunch of slimeball political hacks in D.C. what you can and cannot do. Why should I have to pay for maternity when there is no chance in hell I am going to get pregnant? Or need a Hystorectomy? Why should I not be able to buy a policy that does not include these things? My wife and I already paid the price for these coverages in our younger years, why should we have to pay for them now?

Which brings me to another point, with the exception of some issues such as limits on coverage, why should taxapayers be responsible for for individuals that make bad choices? That choose not to buy coverage and then go crying to anyone that will listen when they are destroyed financially by their bad decision? They chose the big screen TV or new Lexus over healthcare so why should I feel sorry for them? I mean it is thier right but should they not have to suffer the consequences for their stupid decision? To be clear I am not talking about those that had policies that limited the dollar amount, I do not feel that was right. Why should any of us have to bear this burden?

#34 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-01-30 10:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

Not a tax of 35%, but a tax on at least 35% of those plans*

#35 | Posted by YAV at 2014-01-30 10:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

#32

Danni

I do not have them in front of me as I stopped following them when it was apparent Reid was going to be an obstuctionist. Just because of the democratic controlled media does not report on these you would have no way of knowing. Perhaps next time I am in the government website I will pull a few for you.

You and your fellow kool aid drinkers think the republicans are doing nothing but they are it is just not reported on by the democratic media. A very good exaple of what happens, when Obumemr met with the republicans about healthcare they had some ideas, he immediately said no and the media basically ignored the suggestions. You obviously have alot of time on your hands why don't you go look at the bills passed in the house the last few years, I have to go to work.

#36 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-01-30 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Definitely trouble with English today.
Those 4 out of 5 currently not taxed plans will have at least 35% of their value taxed.

#37 | Posted by YAV at 2014-01-30 11:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I do not have them in front of me as I stopped following them when it was apparent Reid was going to be an obstuctionist"

How convenient.

"GOP's Claim That House Passed 30 Jobs Bills? Bogus."

crooksandliars.com

#38 | Posted by danni at 2014-01-30 11:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

A jobs bill is not mandated by the Constitution, unlike an annual budget, Syc.
No matter...trivial, right?

#28 | Posted by Diablo

Neither is an Air Force, a standing Army or 3578 foreign bases, not to mention using the military for wars of aggression.

No matter...trivial, right?

#39 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-01-30 01:46 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

He is a pathelogical liar, he would lie if it was easier to tell the truth.
Obama told you Saddam has WMD, the invasion would pay for itself and Americans would be greeted as liberators? Or that nobody knew about any 9-11 plans beforehand?

Republicans certainly lack the ability to tell the truth at least as badly as the Dems.

Only THEIR lies cost much more and leave more American bodies on the ground.

#40 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-01-30 01:50 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#38

Quite frankly Danni I don't give a damn if you believe me or not. You wouldn't believe it if the bills were tattooed on your forehead.

It is stupid to just sit there and think that the house does nothing all day, just like it would be stupid ot think the senate did nothing all day. One republican, one democrat. I must say you are perhaps the most narrow minded person I have ever come across, even in all my years in the business world. I can understand why you sold your business, anyone so narrow minded is bound to fail sooner or later.

#41 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-01-30 03:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

#46

You are short in one area, Bush, according to the constitution, went to congress and presented what intelligence had brought him, and congress looked at the facts and agreed that there were almost assurredly WMD. In fact some of your favorite liberals voted to authorize force, Clinton and Kerry amongst many others. Were the weapons shipped to another country? We do not know, were they hidden underground in Iraq? We do not know.

So tell me what the federal government has ever done that has come in on or below budget? I have the answer NOTHING. As for us being liberators yes the Iraqi citizen that was threatened under Hussein regime to him we were liberators. Unfortunatly Al-Queida and other terrorist groups did not welcome us as liberators. As for 9/11 nobody knew it was coming and if you believe it was set up by the government then you are not too bright and this conversation is over.

You fail to address that during Bush's term we were not attacked by terrorists. With Obummer as president we have been attacked numerous times, but fortunately the Panty bombers equipment failed, as did the terrorist that had the explosive laden vehicle on Times Square. These are but two examples, had the equipment not failed both would have been disasters.

Unfortuantely we did lose a lot of good people, and perhaps in hindsight had Clinton had the B---- to deal with Bin Laden in hte 90's the 9/11 attack may not have occurred. But we will never know that. Had Bush Sr. gone in and taken out Hussein like he wanted to history would have been very different.

But if you want to talk about parties being responsible for dead soldiers go to a history book and look at who was the president that got us involved in Veit Nam, or Korea where we lost many more soldiers.(answer: Truman and Johnson both democrats) Don't try to tell me it is only the republican party that has done this, neither party is lily white.

#42 | Posted by gtjr at 2014-01-30 03:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

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