"Right, because the US ranks so highly in education currently that YOUR way must be the best way - I laugh at the "superior" intellect prag."
Did I say that? You asserted that workers no longer see value in unions or get value from unions. I pointed out that there are many many workers who will disagree with you. Then I suggested you don't know much about the internal workings of a school, which had nothing to do with rankings? Non sequiturs are your favorite?
"Give me a damn break. Like I said, I have three kids in school. I see what they learn and how it is taught."
You see PART of how it is taught. If you're not in the room, you don't see fully how it is taught.
"I don't give a damn about a union"
I didn't ask you to. I just pointed out that your assertion was wrong.
"that doesn't care about my kids and only cares about the length of the school year, holidays and "in-service" days."
That's all unions care about, eh? You've been to all the meetings? You read all the literature?
"It's BS. You basically work half as much as I do when I consider the OT I put in during the year and expect to get paid like a 'doctor'."
Where do you get this crap? And btw, do you get paid for your OT? I don't. And FTR, I work at least 60 hours a week, generally speaking. Again, you're mouthing off in ignorance.
"It's supply and demand and the union puts the demand out of balance with the supply (of good teachers that is)"
Yeah, 'cause schools really need to work like businesses.
If you want to talk specific contract items without blowing smoke, I'd be happy to do that. But I don't think you know how. What makes you so angry about teachers and unions? It doesn't seem to be balanced examination of facts.
"and tenure REALLY messes that issue up"
Tenure often means different things in different places. I don't think a person should have a job for life, but I do think that "just cause" is a good thing. And I thought that long before I became a teacher in a union.
" - so stuff your union. I know enough to know that it doesn't work for it's members clients - children and their parents."
But that's not what you said. I was speaking to one specific point, and you're going off in Plur-land. And btw, unions work for their members, not for whoever their members serve. I've seen others go off as you are doing now, and it's just foolish. Students are the clients of SCHOOLS, not of teachers' unions.