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Barack Obama's grand vision of action on climate change shrank to $200m a year to fund research into clean fuel cars, with signs of retreat on the big environmental issues of the day.

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Friday's initiative – hyped in advance by the White House – marked the first move by Obama to make good on the stirring promises of climate action offered in his inaugural speech and state of the union address.

But on the most immediate environmental decision in his in-tray -- the future of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline project – White House officials indicated on Friday that Obama's green and liberal supporters would be in for a disappointment. Officials signalled that the president was inclined to approve the project.

Meanwhile, there were signs that the Environmental Protection Agency was retreating on a move to curb carbon emissions from new coal-fired power plants.

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"Meanwhile, White House officials briefing reporters on the plane gave strong indications that the president is inclined to approve the Keystone XL pipeline – which activists have cast as a test of Obama's commitment to the environment."

Hope and change, or shuck and jive?

#1 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 02:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good we can use the jobs and the enviro-nazi's need something to whine about before they go after an EPA ban on Fracking. Obama's not as stupid as he looks.

#2 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-03-21 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Another day, another bit of hope changed into disappointment.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2013-03-21 03:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama should use his own pot money for energy research since the House won't provide it.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2013-03-21 03:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

"enviro-nazi's "

Enviro-nazis are the ones destroying the planet and creating a holocaust for 200 species a day. Not surprising that the Rightwing loves Obama on this issue as much as they love his drone policy.

#5 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 03:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Obama should use his own pot money"

Does President Choomgang have a budget for pot? We know he's a secret smoker, afraid to be photographed smoking.

#6 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 03:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anyone else here ever heard of a rop-a-dope?

#7 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-21 03:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Does President Choomgang have a budget for pot?

It is the real reason the White House tours were canceled: too many people said they could smell something sweet and a good percent knew exactly what they could smell.

#8 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-21 03:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Another day, another bit of hope changed into disappointment.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack

If only you could see the smile on my face.

#9 | Posted by wisgod at 2013-03-21 03:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Michelle would kick his scrawny ass.

But leftist libertarians would be able to cool out somewhat.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2013-03-21 03:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

""We're now in the fifth year of the Obama administration and industrial carbon pollution remains unregulated," said Larry Schweiger, president of the National Wildlife Federation."

Yeah, but just wait, the "real Obama" is going to show up any day now.

#11 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 03:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Empty-Suit-in-Chief strikes again. Why doesn't he just fire a drone missile at the polluters?

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2013-03-21 03:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

#5 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Love is a strong word. I've been an environmentalist before there was such a thing, I have back packed and skies and biked my whole life but I also understand that the environment can be shared and a properly engineered and monitored pipe line is perfectly acceptable to me especially considering that the alternative is no jobs for us and the oil going to China who is the anti-christ of environmentalism. Enviro-nazis will cut off their nose to spite their face and this time they lose. Now would you like to discuss the Delta smelt?

#13 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-03-21 03:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

skies = skied

#14 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-03-21 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah, but just wait, the "real Obama" is going to show up any day now.

#11 | Posted by nullifidian

You sound like a guy booking tee times on the first day of Spring.

#15 | Posted by wisgod at 2013-03-21 03:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

#9 I'm glad I got you to smile, but, I voted for Johnson in 2012.

2000 - Nader

2004 - Nader

2008 - Obama

2012 - Johnson

I'm not a party voter, I am liberal, but not necessarily a democrat.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2013-03-21 03:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

I voted Jill Stein in 2012.

#17 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-21 03:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

You sound like a guy booking tee times on the first day of Spring.

Interesting you should mention that...

Obama Golfed With Oil Men As Climate Protesters Descended On White House
www.huffingtonpost.com

#18 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 03:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

people said they could smell something sweet and a good percent knew exactly what they could smell.

#8 | Posted by kanrei

Pot does not smell sweet and neither does this.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-03-21 03:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Pot does not smell sweet

Get better dope =P

#20 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-21 03:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Get better dope =P"

They have pretty good stuff in Humboldt county.

#21 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 05:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

The screwing is just too good---- It's only the beginning of his second term and when he said he had more work to do, he must have meant he had more lefties to throw under the bus. How do you like those thread marks?

#22 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-21 05:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Enviro-nazis are the ones destroying the planet and creating a holocaust for 200 species a day.

#5 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Only the right ones, huh? Everyone else on the planet exists on manna from Heaven?

Nully don't eat cows, he don't drink drinks, he never touches rubber soled shoes, and he never, ever farts prosperously?

Just how are you any different from those on the right you lament? You do everything everybody else does (and more too?).

Delusional. It's a word I'd consider looking up if I were you, Nully. Because that's how you sound to an objective outsider like myself.

#23 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-21 05:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nully ain't kilt no endangered species. No siree. Only rich corporations do that in their quest to put gas in his fleet of cars (that he, ahem, really, really hates using).

#24 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-21 05:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

#23 | Posted by brilliantbart
#24 | Posted by brilliantbart

Thanks for your responses, not-so-brilliant bart. Sorry, but I'm not going to kill myself to satisfy this inane tu quoque argument that says you can't criticize industrial civilization if you live in it. Think about it, dummy.

#25 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 05:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry, but I'm not going to kill myself to satisfy this inane tu quoque argument that says you can't criticize industrial civilization if you live in it. Think about it, dummy.

#25 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Actually its perfectly valid to point out your hypocrisy, the Tu quoque portion is that it doesn't invalidate your argument.

You may or may not have a valid argument, but I must infer that you don't believe in it too much, so why should I.

#26 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2013-03-21 06:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Actually its perfectly valid to point out your hypocrisy,"

There is no hypocrisy. By this logic, I would have to kill myself, or at least live naked in a cave, before criticizing industrial civilization. That's absurd, and an ad hominem fallacy. Anybody who takes that argument seriously needs a class in Logic 101.

#27 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 06:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

There is no hypocrisy. By this logic, I would have to kill myself, or at least live naked in a cave, before criticizing industrial civilization. That's absurd, and an ad hominem fallacy. Anybody who takes that argument seriously needs a class in Logic 101.

#27 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

True. Just as anyone who fails to admit they themselves are part of the collective problem, needs a class in Honesty 101.

Be honest first, then make your point. Say you're guilty too; and other guilty people might begin to listen more.

Just know it's the pious, self-excluding dogma that fills our ears. And never shall your point get through.

#28 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-21 06:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Just as anyone who fails to admit they themselves are part of the collective problem,"

I'm well aware that I'm part of the global 5 percent that uses 20 to 30 percent of the most important global resources. I advocate a managed contraction of that global footprint. Let's start with a 5 dollar a gallon gas tax. I'm willing to pay it tomorrow. You?

#29 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 06:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm well aware that I'm part of the global 5 percent that uses 20 to 30 percent of the most important global resources. I advocate a managed contraction of that global footprint. Let's start with a 5 dollar a gallon gas tax. I'm willing to pay it tomorrow. You?

#29 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

In all fairness, my answer won't mean much. I'm retired and don't have to drive to work tomorrow. Nor do I have to expect a job when I get there.

You'd actually favor a world-wide depression? I'm sorry, but that is just madness. And I'm not sure I believe you even mean that.

It would hurt a whole lot of good people, you know? And what would "they" do will all of that gas tax money? Do you know? Do you care?

One more question. Is this why you voted for Obama? Because you knew he'd contract the economy?

#30 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-21 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

"One more question"

No, I don't think so, Rex. You ducked the question I asked, so you don't deserve another question.

#31 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 06:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Is this why you voted for Obama?

Your question should be "Did you vote for Obama?"

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2013-03-21 06:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Hope and change, or shuck and jive?"

What in hell did you expect? He Hoped and Changed and shucked and jived from the beginning. You expected him to be different in the second term? Hell, I'm STILL waiting to see all those healthcare debates on CSpan.

#33 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-03-21 06:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's the reason why I voted for Obama. I will admit it. I knew Obama would tank the economy.

Because Obama's economic footprint contraction will save the world from global warming.

[Or not]. hee hee..

#34 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-21 06:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, I don't think so, Rex. You ducked the question I asked, so you don't deserve another question.

#31 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Who does the $5 a gallon gas tax go to? If it goes to me, I will gladly support it.

If to Al Gore? No, I don't support a $5 gallon gas tax. You do?

#35 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-21 07:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama's economy is great for combating global warming. Be glad for it!

#36 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-21 07:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

"You expected him to be different in the second term?"

No, that's why I didn't vote for his reelection.

#37 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-21 07:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nully, Nully, Nully. Obama is the best thing that could have happened in combating global warming.

His economic policies have contracted everything, just like you recommend happens.

And you failed to support him? Now I'm confused.

We now have a contracting carbon footprint. You should be celebrating that fact. What gives?

#38 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-21 07:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

See? Never a need for name calling. Just well-layed argument traps that arguers can't help but step into.

To combat the climate boogey-man, the carbon footprint must necessarily shrink.

And that can only mean 1 thing. A New Great Depression of the global economy.

And Obama's just the man to bring it about. And save us all in the process.

[or not]. hee hee

#39 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-21 07:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Pot does not smell sweet

Get better dope =P

#20 | Posted by kanrei

My stuff is the skankiest. Still smells like skunk to me though.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-03-22 07:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, that's why I didn't vote for his reelection.

#37 | Posted by nullifidian

I am curious Nulli

Who did you vote for?

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-03-22 07:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't smell sweet, but it sure as hell smells gooooooood ☺

#42 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2013-03-22 07:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Who did you vote for?"

Gary Johnson. But I may not vote again because a vote legitimizes the whole fraudulent process.

#43 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-22 07:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's the reason why I voted for Obama. I will admit it. I knew Obama would tank the economy.

Because Obama's economic footprint contraction will save the world from global warming.

[Or not]. hee hee..

#34 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-21 06:59 PM | Reply

That's why I voted for Obama too---I knew he would be good for my investments---precious metals will continue to do well in the future; the economy not so well.

#44 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-23 03:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

The only ground Obama refuses to give is the continued erosion of our civil liberties.

Republican crying and lying aside, Obama is a giant [...] pushover on EVERYTHING ELSE. He's even making noises about SS cuts again. Wimp president.

#45 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-03-23 06:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

I knew he would be good for my investments---precious metals will continue to do well in the future; the economy not so well.

#44 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-23 03:11 PM | Reply | Flag

Enjoy eating your gold during the apocalypse.

#46 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-03-23 06:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's why I voted for Obama too---I knew he would be good for my investments---precious metals will continue to do well in the future; the economy not so well.

#44 | POSTED BY MATSOP

I'm actually not that calculating by half. I was mostly using my literary license back there.. lol..

#47 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-23 07:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama just can't understand why the thugs don't love him, when he gives them everything they want, without so much as a wimper. He needs to be loved real bad.

The answer is simple of course, the thugs are pissed they aren't in charge of the trough and will do anything to be first in line again. Losing the last election doesn't mean you have to accept the public's opinion on anything. Every thug knows the public doesn't matter at all, they can be homeless or cannon fodder for all they care.

#48 | Posted by nutcase at 2013-03-24 12:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama just can't understand why the thugs don't love him, when he gives them everything they want, without so much as a wimper. He needs to be loved real bad.

#48 | Posted by nutcase at 2013-03-24 12:47 AM | Reply

And that folks is a simple definition of a "narcissist."

#49 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-24 03:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Losing the last election doesn't mean you have to accept the public's opinion on anything. Every thug knows the public doesn't matter at all, they can be homeless or cannon fodder for all they care.

#48 | POSTED BY NUTCASE

Don't overly complicate this. Republicans take one listen to an Obama Phone Lady person and think, can this person really be right? Really?

Once that nano-second is finished, Republicans then assume that most Obama voters come to their beliefs in the the same way as the Obama Phone Lady did.


#50 | Posted by brilliantbart at 2013-03-24 11:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

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