It should be an argument for a different thread, truthfully, but if you want to play the semantics game, yes, a fetus is human. Perhaps I misspoke. Now, is it a person? Personhood, what I was loosely calling their humanity earlier, I can only best define as being self-aware, having the capacity for cognition and recognition of both internal and external states.
A heartbeat does not gift one with this. The brain is what I'm talking about. I would very comfortably draw the line for abortion as only being ok before the fetus has detectable brain waves, and not morally or ethically ok afterwards.
1) For most of human history there has never been a "healthcare system", healthcare is NOT a fundamental human right. 2) Almost every war in human history is based on lies and half-truths. 3) Again most of humans that have existed have never seen a "justice system", again a modern development. So stop whining about things not being perfect, be happy u have a relatively robust healthcare and justice system at all
Finally, why should murderers, many guilty without any doubt, not get the death penalty. Why should killers get the chance to read books, watch television, use the internet, talk with family and friends, maybe even have sex while the victim can not not.
#69 | POSTED BY DANV AT 2013-03-20 12:03 PM | FLAG:
By that logic, we should never demand improvement on any new developments. Progress is about... well, progress. For instance, now that we have a healthcare system, why shouldn't that be a right for all? No nation had such guaranteed freedoms as we have before us at the founding of our nation, either. Yet we were gifted with the Bill of Rights. It's not about whining about imperfection, but rather striving for perfection. In this case, I believe perfection is needed and demanded before death sentences should ever be carried out. The one innocent life that may be caught, that in fact has many times over the years is a far more sacred and valuable thing than all the "justice" that can ever be extracted out of "proper" applications of the death penalty. I am not defending murderers. I am saying the lives of the innocent are more important than the deaths of the guilty. Exponentially so.
Now about that chilling, watching tv part - I believe all non-violent crimes should be punished differently than our current criminal system does - maybe not jail, but much more along the lines of restitution and community service, harder, but shorter sentences, with prison only being an option for those who refuse to pay their debt to society. Freeing up room in jails and reducing costs so that truly violent offenders do "pay their fair share." A rapist, someone who assaults and batters others, these people should never do less time than drug users or prostitutes, or other perpetrators of "crimes" that are only crimes because we say they are, not because there was a victim. Then, when we have prisons narrowed down to only housing those who deserve to be there, should be work camps. Truly miserable places people do not want to go back to. And never leave if they have taken someone else's life.