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Friday, March 15, 2013

According to the latest Nielsen ratings, Sunday night's telecast of The Bible, produced by husband-and-wife team Mark Burnett and Roma Downey for basic cable's History channel, drew 10.8 million viewers, good for number one in its timeslot and number 11 overall for the week. Part one the week before amassed an audience of 13.1 million viewers, cable's largest of the year. "Blockbuster ratings for a compilation of bible stories from a reality TV producer taking his first crack at drama? Can't be," writes Daniel Wattenberg for Washington Times. "If there was a market for biblical epics, then Hollywood wouldn't have long ago abandoned the genre."

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Liberals in Hollywood can't understand why people love God.

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Fairy tales always attract viewers.

#1 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2013-03-15 02:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Because humans are addicted to hope. We like to think the best is out there somewhere and G-d is defined as the most pure of the best of the good. We need to believe in something greater than ourselves; that our lives have meaning outside of our brains.

There is also the concept that we may be evolutionarily programed to believe in G-d as a way to combat our knowledge of our own mortality.

#2 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-15 02:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

"No critical love. No marketing oomph. No-name cast. Together equal -- what else? -- ratings smash!"

The stories and the characters themselves themselves are so very human as to be moving on many different levels to all kinds of people.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2013-03-15 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

'Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me.,

John Lennon

#4 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2013-03-15 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do you understand why Muslims love Allah? Buddhists Budha?

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2013-03-15 03:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Liberals In Hollywood"

You mean the "liberals" in Hollywood that made

The Ten Commandments

Ben Hur

The Greatest Story Ever Told

Those "liberals"?

#6 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2013-03-15 03:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ya gotta love the Pope Pic on the masthead now.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2013-03-15 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Liberals In Hollywood"

Include Christians who are well known for their roles on TV: www.youtube.com

But when they get on the big screen is when Christians can really shine:

www.youtube.com

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 03:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Quite frankly, I'm a bit baffled myself.

#9 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-15 03:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Misleading Headline. Stupid Article. But hey, when its all you got, run it!

By the way, Mark Burnett and Roma Downey, aren't just an average "husband-and-wife team."

Mark Burnett

He's the head of Burnett Productions and can be credited with being responsible for the popularity of reality television.

Survivor, The Apprentice, The Voice, heard of any of these shows? He created them.

This isn't the first show to be successful despite poor critic reviews and poor marketing.

But sure, if it sounds better that a "husband-and-wife team" fought all those liberals in hollywood and produced "the Bible" and it was successful, then by all means, lie to yourself.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2013-03-15 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dang, clownshack just dragged your argument to the basement.

#11 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 03:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

10,824,000 viewers? That's a good number for cable television, but not that good. The Walking Dead had 11,458,000 viewers the same night.

But when you compare that to broadcast television, those numbers are for moderately successful shows. Not the shows that get the big advertising buys.

We'll have to see how those numbers hold up, as the weather gets nicer.

.

#12 | Posted by Roy_Batty at 2013-03-15 03:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

God doesn't understand why people love God.

#13 | Posted by klifferd at 2013-03-15 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anyone ever hear of a smash hit film called "Bruce Almighty"?

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 04:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anyone ever hear of a smash hit film called "Bruce Almighty"?

That was a good flick, but the sequel sucked.

#15 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-15 04:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dang, clownshack just dragged your argument to the basement.
#11 | POSTED BY TOR AT 2013-03-15 03:49 PM | REPLY

And chained it to a wall and raped it?

ummm...

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2013-03-15 04:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't know about that clownshack I just know they don't float when you're done with them.

#17 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 04:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

'Oz The Great and Powerful' made 80 million in the US last weekend... But, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

You do realize, The Bible was written and imagined entirely by humans, right?

#18 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2013-03-15 04:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Also the "Oh God!" movies and "The Robe".

What was you point again, boaz???

#19 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2013-03-15 04:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

#17 | POSTED BY TOR

Was I the only person that didn't find the book or the movie to be scary?

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2013-03-15 04:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

You do realize, The Bible was written and imagined entirely by humans, right?

POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2013-03-15 04:38 PM |

That takes away no value from it IMHO. Humans have always used simile and metaphor, symbolism, etc to discuss things larger than ourselves...concepts universal, complicated, or lessons to teach behavior.

#21 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-15 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

There's something about long haired hippie looking white guys dressed in robes and walking around in a desert that brings out the optimist in all of us.

#22 | Posted by kamakiri at 2013-03-15 04:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Boaz is trying to claim that religion only belongs to conservatives.

You would think such concept would give Boaz a better appreciation for Islam, which is certainly one of the most socially conservative religions there is.

#23 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2013-03-15 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

which is certainly one of the most socially conservative religions there is.

They all are. You are confusing Dogma of a faith with Fundamentalist adherence to it.

#24 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-15 04:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

@ 21 a book as long as the bible with that many authors in so many different times....

I feel sorry for those who think it doesn't contain any similes, metaphors, symbols, etc. for their reality is impoverished.

#25 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 04:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

There are various faiths because people are different and need different motivations to do right.

Some need reward.
Some need threat of punishment.
Some just do good.
Some never will.
Some do it so you will see them doing it.
Some do it to not shame their family.
Some need to be told they are special
Some need to be told we are all the same.

#26 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-15 04:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

#21 | Posted by kanrei

Yes, lazy humans will make faux facts up to explain things that they can't explain otherwise, or to impose their view of morality upon others. These may be some of mans worst flaws.

#27 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2013-03-15 05:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

@27 you are just being biased. Do you hate Grimm Fairy Tales? How about Aesop? Same goal.

#28 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-15 05:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

What a stupid article. What liberals? Nobody's surprised that The Bible is doing well. Hollywood hasn't abandoned the genre. There are always lots of movies and shows about religion.

I guess Boaz will play the persecuted victim until every movie and show is about Christianity.

#29 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2013-03-15 05:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

@ #26 | POSTED BY KANREI

Deep stuff man.

www.youtube.com

#30 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Is Book of Eli any good? It does have Mila Kunis, so it will be great eye candy, but is the mind entertained as well?

#31 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-15 05:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Book of Eli is flawed in multiple places.

But you get to hear Denzel recite from the Bible and see a great example of how a psychopath views a holy text.

#32 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 05:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

KANREI I do suggest you rent it.

#33 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 05:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Same goal.

#28 | Posted by kanrei

Huge difference between those and the Bible. Few if any take the Grimms' or Aesop as literal history. And, I don't hate any of them. I am merely disturbed by the delusional view of the literal interpretation of the Bible, and those who continue to push it as something worthy of worship.

#34 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2013-03-15 05:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

am merely disturbed by the delusional view of the literal interpretation of the Bible

Then your issue more likely with people who never actually read the Bible and not the Bible itself.

#35 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-15 05:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

"literal history"

Part's of the Bible are historic facts that but I doubt that's what's important about it.

Franz Jägerstätter proved there's something about that Book that is different.

#36 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 05:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

youtu.be

#37 | Posted by patron at 2013-03-15 05:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

It is so hard to explain the wonder of religion to those who have never felt the wonder.

www.youtube.com

#38 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 05:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

#38 -- I saw that movie and the play. Both were great. But I was far from feeling any sort of "wonder"

#39 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-15 05:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Goatman the movie and play of JC superstar are not the same as the Bible.

#40 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 06:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Goatman the movie and play of JC superstar are not the same as the Bible.

I know. I've read the bible. I thought the movie was better.

#41 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-15 06:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Goatman the movie and play of JC superstar are not the same as the Bible.

BTW, the presence of jet fighters, busses, and metal scaffolding sort of had me on the same train of thought.

#42 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-15 06:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

JC Superstar could be viewed as the gospel of judas.

#43 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-15 06:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

An interesting thing about the Bible is that One can read the book of Mark, absorb all the teachings that they understand, and spend years trying to understand the teachings they don't rather than reject them.

#44 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 06:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

One can read the book of Mark, absorb all the teachings that they understand, and spend years trying to understand the teachings they don't rather than reject them.

Mark should have been a better writer, then.

#45 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-15 06:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

So, liberals can't understand why people love God. Anyone with an ounce of sense probably could figure that one out. The heathens in "Hollowwood" talk themselves into the idea that their narrow, self-interested, perverted lives is normalcy. The fact that the MSM gives credence to that belief just solidifies the arrogance of their thought process. New testament scripture along with parts of the OT (notice, lefties, I emphasized "parts") hold out to people a way of life that promotes goodness, putting the interests of others on par with your self-interest, and responsibility to live your life in non-conformance to the rest of the world. People in their inmost beings strive for that even though they fall short in so many ways. There are even posters on the DR that run from that thing we call conscience.

#46 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-15 06:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

@ GOATMAN

Failure to learn is not always the product of a failure to teach.

That's why when you got F's you felt ashamed and not your teachers.

#47 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 06:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

disturbed by the delusional view of the literal interpretation of the Bible, and those who continue to push it as something worthy of worship.

#34 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2013-03-15 05:24 PM | Reply

It's not the bible that is worshiped; it's what the bible points to that is worshiped.

#48 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-15 06:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's a pretty good show.

I sure about liberals in Hollywood being confounded about this show being popular. That's their nature.

They are business people though and if it means making a buck, they would have done this.

They said the same thing about "Passion of the Christ". That earned what 500 or 600 million?

Hollywood is confounded because there is little imagination or creativity coming from the tired lot.

There are some bright movies--but mostly they are re-runs of something else. And the shows on TV are pathetic.

#49 | Posted by MURPHY at 2013-03-15 06:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's why when you got F's you felt ashamed and not your teachers.

I'm not sure how you know this, but apparently you do somehow.

My teachers were not indicative of all teachers, however. My sister, a teacher, takes it quite personally when she has a failing student and yes, feels some shame for it.

Also, I can recall getting Fs on failure to turn in work -- never for something I did turn in. * And I don't recall feeling shame for it, but maybe I did. 45 years is a long time to remember such pointless minutiae

* one humorous exception. I am not at all a poetry fan. In an English class, our teacher, who loved Paul Simon, told us to write an essay on what he meant when he said, "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls". I turned in one sentence: "He meant that some of Jean Dixon's 'Rican offspring had gone crazy with spray paint on the Manhattan subway line predicting the Mets [this was just before WS in 1973] would sweep the World Series that year". It was worth the F. LOL

#50 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-15 06:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

At your age I would hope you had learned patience.

#51 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 06:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's not the bible that is worshiped; it's what the bible points to that is worshiped.

#48 | Posted by matsop

You interpret the god of the bible as a literal entity. You go on to worship said entity. The entity that you worship as a god is a complete fabrication from the imagination of men.

#52 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2013-03-15 07:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

@#52 Various heads of state named in the Bible were clearly very real.

#53 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 07:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

complete fabrication from the imagination of men.

#52 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2013-03-15 07:04 PM | Reply

The fabrication is from those that don't believe.

#54 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-15 07:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

You interpret the god of the bible as a literal entity. You go on to worship said entity. The entity that you worship as a god is a complete fabrication from the imagination of men.#52 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

At least you "HOPE" thats the case, or you are really screwed.

#55 | Posted by Daniel at 2013-03-15 07:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

The premise that Hollywood is ignoring Bible-themed entertainment for ideological reasons is silly. They will produce anything if it makes a truckload of money.

#56 | Posted by rcade at 2013-03-15 09:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

They will produce anything if it makes they think it will make a truckload of money.

#57 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-03-15 09:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

What's the deal with some people being afraid of Church going Liberals?

Is it that they don't fall nicely into the categories of your mind?

Is it that they adhere to a higher power than money?

Maybe they're feared for the same reason Jesus was feared.

#58 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 10:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

The more the better! We need God more than ever.

#59 | Posted by bobinspokane at 2013-03-15 10:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

All we have is on this earth and we're only here for a short time. Don't let the high priests of Capitalism fool you.

#60 | Posted by nutcase at 2013-03-15 11:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe they're feared for the same reason Jesus was feared.

#58 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-15 10:00 PM | Reply |

Challenged the power structure.

#61 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-15 11:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

[...] It's not many at all proportionately speaking. Yet it is more than 5x the number who watch Fox news and the left gets their panties all atwist with that number.

[...] I hope next time you see people whine about Fox you will remind them of the insignificant number of viewers they have. You'll do that, won't you? LOL

tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com

#63 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-15 11:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Televised, TL;DR version of a longwinded, outmoded, ancient fairy tale...draws 13.1M lazy idiots.

WTF America?

#64 | Posted by Zarathustra at 2013-03-16 03:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's always super-easy to sucker Christians into consuming some dumb product:

just sell it at some bible-paraphernalia store in a strip-mall somewhere in flyover country with a big 'ole cross mounted outside!

the "left behind" series, the "passion of the christ", etc., come to mind quite readily, and they were wildly successful.

When my friends and I got drunk and went to see the "passion of the christ" in the theaters for a laugh, it was pretty disappointing to see some irresponsible parents dragging their 6 or 8 y/o kids in to see that snuff-film. There were parts that were pretty brutal, and if I'd seen this piece of cinematic trash at such a young age, I'd be scarred for life.

The brutal lessons laid out by the buybull are not the best things to be sharing with a very young child.

#65 | Posted by Zarathustra at 2013-03-16 03:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

anyway, if you didn't catch the "passion" flick from our buddy mad max gibson, here's a tl;dw:

www.youtube.com

#66 | Posted by Zarathustra at 2013-03-16 03:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

"flyover country"

Nothing like a bit of bigotry for the people that feed you.

#67 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-16 03:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

I live in flyover country.

The idiots are amusing nonetheless.

#68 | Posted by Zarathustra at 2013-03-16 03:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

There is also the concept that we may be evolutionarily programed to believe in G-d as a way to combat our knowledge of our own mortality.

#2 | Posted by kanrei at

Then there's the concept that evolution skipped over programing us not to experiece anxiousness over death at all, because it so badly wnated us to believe in God.

#69 | Posted by Zed at 2013-03-16 09:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

hold out to people a way of life that promotes goodness, putting the interests of others on par with your self-interest, and responsibility to live your life in non-conformance to the rest of the world. People in their inmost beings strive for that even though they fall short in so many ways.

I would say my experiences have taught me they fall short in every way.

They're just more pompous and self-righteous about their college try as the nonbeliever is in their equally successful college try.

#70 | Posted by jpw at 2013-03-16 05:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would say my experiences have taught me they fall short in every way.

#70 | Posted by jpw at 2013-03

they=you=us

#71 | Posted by Zed at 2013-03-16 05:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

they=you=us

Yes, good, you got my point.

We all fail the same. Some of us are more pompous about our tryings though, as well as more self-assured we're not failing.

#72 | Posted by jpw at 2013-03-16 06:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

JPW and ZED tolerance and acceptance of the american liberal on display.

#73 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-03-16 06:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

JPW and ZED tolerance and acceptance of the american liberal on display.

YAWN.

What about what I said indicates I'm intolerant of Christians? I'm just pointing out that they're subject to the same human failings as the rest of us.

Do you deny this?

#74 | Posted by jpw at 2013-03-16 06:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

.... "Do you understand why Muslims love Allah? Buddhists Budha?"

**** YES..because like all organized religions they get their "Devoted" followers by "Forcing & Brainwashing" their children,as soon as they are born,into being Obedient Robots to the Man in the Sky Voodoo B.S.!!!

#75 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2013-03-16 08:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Parents teaching their kids about religion is brainwashing?

Guess you'd like someone to end it then?

#76 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-16 08:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Parents teaching their kids about religion is brainwashing?"

ideally, children wouldn't be indoctrinated into this-or-that belief system at a young age; that is brainwashing.

let them grow up and have at least a few experiences before ramming some brutal ancient belief system down their throats.

although christopher hitchens was really full of it on a lot of issues, he was right when he commented on the absurdity of terms such as "Christian child" or "Muslim child", etc.

#77 | Posted by Zarathustra at 2013-03-17 12:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Guess you'd like someone to end it then?"

a crazy response would be optimal for this troll bait.

it's happening organically, even here in America: significantly fewer young people consider religion to be important in their lives than did their parents.

traditional christian moralists will no doubt seize on the above comment as evidence that declining religiosity is holding the country down, but they'd be advised to become informed of spurious causation.

#78 | Posted by Zarathustra at 2013-03-17 12:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

The "History" Channel comes through again. I love the holy book of Xtianists being shown with all the hillbillie "science" on the same channel!

#79 | Posted by john47 at 2013-03-17 10:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

let them grow up and have at least a few experiences before ramming some brutal ancient belief system down their throats.

#77 | Posted by Zarathustra at

At what age is it permissible to teach them that slavery is wrong, money isn't everything, wars hurt people, and that they're not the center of the known universe?

What experiences do you want them to have before they get that far?

#80 | Posted by Zed at 2013-03-17 10:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

some brutal ancient belief system down their throats.

#77 | Posted by Zarathustra at

Hvae you taken a look at the brutal modern belief system? A Godless world looks like an armed soap opera, complete with cannibal cops.

#81 | Posted by Zed at 2013-03-17 10:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

That cannibal cop, and the society of cannibals he apparently interacted with, is interesting to me. Think they were simply mentally ill? I confess they could be. But my nagging suspicion is that they were all just as sane as anyone you know. They just chose a particular side, and were advocating for it. Why? Because that's the side they liked, and I have no doub that had a thousnad reasons for that.

#82 | Posted by Zed at 2013-03-17 10:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

Liberals in Hollywood can't understand why people love God.

What's God got to do with it? The Bible is full of drama, violence, sex; the major ingredients of a good story.

#83 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2013-03-17 01:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

I DVR'd Part 1 of The Bible and watched it earlier today and will catch the next part of the series tonight.

The more I see and read of the stories as told in the Bible, the more it seems they can't be actual real life events -- like having two of every single animal and reptile in the world hitching a ride on Noah's ark.

It's more as though the Bible's stories were intentionally being told along the lines of Aesop's Fables as a way to simplify and explain -- for the mostly uneducated and scientifically-naive population of Biblical times -- the various real events and happenings of the day.

No way would the people of Biblical times have understood the concept of DNA, astronomy, or the possibility that a tsunami might have been the actual cause for the parting of the Red Sea so simplified stories were told instead.

#84 | Posted by CalifChris at 2013-03-17 01:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Because humans are addicted to hope.

We like to think the best is out there somewhere and God is defined as the most pure of the best of the good. We need to believe in something greater than ourselves; that our lives have meaning outside of our brains.

#2 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-15 02:42 PM


Very well stated, kanrei.

Hope - either via prayer and belief in God or from whatever other source one may find -- can be the life preserver that enables a person to get though some of the most difficult times.

#85 | Posted by CalifChris at 2013-03-17 02:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hvae you taken a look at the brutal modern belief system? A Godless world looks like an armed soap opera, complete with cannibal cops.

Yawn.

Do you really think it's any different now than it's always been?

#86 | Posted by jpw at 2013-03-17 02:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

"10,824,000 viewers? That's a good number for cable television, but not that good. The Walking Dead had 11,458,000 viewers the same night.
#12 | Posted by Roy_Batty"

Huh? I thought Jesus WAS the walking dead?

#87 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2013-03-17 02:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Jesus was no more the walking dead than say Dolly the Sheep or someone who's heart had to be restarted.

#88 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-17 03:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

the same 13.1 million that voted for Bush in 2004...

#89 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2013-03-17 06:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do you really think it's any different now than it's always been?

#86 | Posted by jpw at 2013-03-17 02:19

Sure. Now there is an alternative.

#90 | Posted by Zed at 2013-03-17 06:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

The more I see and read of the stories as told in the Bible, the more it seems they can't be actual real life events -- like having two of every single animal and reptile in the world hitching a ride on Noah's ark.

#84 | Posted by CalifChris at 2013-03-17

Virtually the entirety of the Bible is a warning against concrete and two-dimensional thinking.

#91 | Posted by Zed at 2013-03-17 06:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Virtually the entirety of the Bible is a warning against concrete and two-dimensional thinking.

So the bible is a circular document? "Don't believe what you read in the bible because the bible isn't true"?

Logical minds explode

#92 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-17 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Logical minds explode

#92 | Posted by goatman at 2013

Nah. Logical minds have no problem with it. You picked the Volume Q from an encyclopedia and have studied it carefully.

I like Q, too. But there are other letters.

#93 | Posted by Zed at 2013-03-17 07:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

. Logical minds have no problem with it.

A self defeating circular argement?

What are you on, anyway?

You picked the Volume Q from an encyclopedia and have studied it carefully.

I like Q, too. But there are other letters.

You are contradicting yourself again. You said:

Virtually the entirety of the Bible....
I take that to mean more than the letter Q

#94 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-17 07:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

I take that to mean more than the letter Q

#94 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03

Hey, I've got one for you: When Michael Corleone gives over control of the family business to Tom Hagen, what's Tom thinking?

#95 | Posted by Zed at 2013-03-17 07:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

When Michael Corleone gives over control of the family business to Tom Hagen, what's Tom thinking?

I don't know. I'm not a Godfather series freak.

Reality, (something that seems to evade you) not hollywood speak, please.

Thanks

#96 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-17 07:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why is this news? I'm not reading the whole thread, but are people trying to suggest that this means something big about faith in America? That would be awfully silly. Hell, when I was a kid, I used to watch the Ten Commandments when it was on TV, and we were not practicing Christians or people of faith. We just like spectacle (we humans).

#97 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-17 07:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't know. I'm not a Godfather series freak.

#96 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03

That's right. "Godfather" begins with "G", not "Q".

#98 | Posted by Zed at 2013-03-17 07:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

We just like spectacle (we humans).

Exactly. When I was a kid, I sat through a bible movie just to see the Romans driving nails into Jesus' hands. The rest of the movie was pointless. LOL

Why doesn't Jesus eat M&Ms? They fall through the holes in his hands.

#99 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-17 07:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

The scene in this series that cracked me up was when those two angels who were in the town of Sodom with Lot and his family had to fight their way out through a mob of evil townspeople. One of the angels was Asian and he actually started doing karate chops. lol

#100 | Posted by CalifChris at 2013-03-17 07:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

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