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Friday, March 15, 2013

Physicists who last summer triumphantly announced the discovery of a new particle -- but held back from saying what it was -- declared on Thursday there was now little doubt it was the long-sought Higgs boson. Latest analysis of data from the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) particle accelerator, where the boson was spotted as a bump on a graph early in 2012, "strongly indicates" it is the Higgs, said CERN. Physicists believe the boson and its linked energy field were vital in the formation of the universe after the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago.

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it his name Cardinal Sarducci?

#1 | Posted by ichiro at 2013-03-14 06:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

They have maybe just scratched the surface here. Much more to do like validate their find, reproduce it, delve into the other aspects of the Higgs Boson such as dark matter, gravity, supersymmetry, to name a few.

Very interesting though. This should keep all those scientists involved occupied for the rest of their carreers.

Stay tuned, I'm sure there is more to come on this.

#2 | Posted by path at 2013-03-14 06:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

From my read - there really was no new experimentation done - simple more digging into the same data. Strange how previously meaningless data can suddenly change into something meaningful when you know what you are looking for.

#3 | Posted by Jacque_Strap at 2013-03-14 07:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Finally, we have the tool to disprove the ridiculous theory of super-symmetry. I believe the selectron weighs under 14 TeV, so the LHC should be able to find one in the decay of particles and micro-black holes created by the collider. Or not.

If you follow such things. I for one am fascinated.

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2013-03-14 07:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

I can't wait to try one out. Are they tasty?

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-03-14 08:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, you said, boson ...not bison.

Nevermind.

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-03-14 08:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Funny thing is I knew a bos'n (boatswain mate) named Biggs when I was in the Navy.

#7 | Posted by goatman at 2013-03-14 08:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

So does the "God Particle" prove "God Exists"? Gravity FTL?

#8 | Posted by reitze at 2013-03-14 09:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

From my read - there really was no new experimentation done - simple more digging into the same data.

No, it was further repetition of the same experiment to accrue enough data to be definitive.

No different than how science usually works.

Strange how previously meaningless data can suddenly change into something meaningful when you know what you are looking for.

It wasn't "previously meaningless data", it was data that needed repetitions and confirmation.

You're not too familiar with how science works, are you?

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2013-03-14 09:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

I was just going to post this article.

But it was already here, and anyway the title was too long.

Scientific Conclave Kinda, Sorta, Says Yet Again That the Higgs " appears to be real", "Now there's serious evidence that this is a Higgs boson.". and "the new particle has some of the key attributes of the Higgs"

Now if they can only decide who to give the Nobel to for finding something that is maybe, kinda, sorta very much like a Higgs bosun.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2013-03-15 12:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

#7 | POSTED BY GOATMAN
"Funny thing is I knew a bos'n (boatswain mate) named Biggs when I was in the Navy."

There's a joke in there somewhere...

#11 | Posted by TheTom at 2013-03-15 09:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

"This should keep all those scientists involved occupied for the rest of their carreers.

Yup, nothing like having that in the back of their minds as they objectively do their experimentation and analysis.

#12 | Posted by kamakiri at 2013-03-15 09:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Now if they can only decide who to give the Nobel to"

why, SATYENDRANATH BOSE of course.

of course, a brownie will get the shaft when up against and englishman anyday...

#13 | Posted by kamakiri at 2013-03-15 09:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Finally, we have the tool to disprove the ridiculous theory of super-symmetry"

Why do you consider these theories, "silly"? Just curious.

#14 | Posted by danv at 2013-03-15 11:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

"of course, a brownie will get the shaft....
#13 | Posted by kamakiri"

Gross, dude.

#15 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2013-03-15 12:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yup, nothing like having that in the back of their minds as they objectively do their experimentation and analysis.

So? And if they're wrong they'll get nailed to the wall for it.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2013-03-15 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

One could only wish they could put 1% of this effort into finding an honest man (or least a decent POTUS)

#17 | Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2013-03-15 06:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

The most amazing tribute to the human mind is the Standard Model. It is completely non-intuitive. The mathematical complexities have baffled scientists for centuries. It depends entirely on mathematical modeling. The actual behaviors of these particles are contrary to all of our experiences in life on the scale and sensory level we experience it.

#18 | Posted by nutcase at 2013-03-15 07:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Europeans spent $9 billion to do this. Our leadership, which only cares about money, cancelled our supercollider and then spent 17,7777 times more on our bailout of criminals and gamblers. This exercise is esoteric, and most beautiful of all, totally lacking in any profit motive. The kind of behavior which produces art, music and WTF scientific revelations hitherto unknown. Its why we live in the modern hi-tech life we enjoy. We are going to be surpassed. No one has ever produced the kind of art, architecture, music and science, like the Europeans.

#19 | Posted by nutcase at 2013-03-15 08:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

5 sigma isn't really amenable to data-mining. Those who suggest this is fishing for correlations (ha!) don't really know what they're talking about.

#20 | Posted by Zarathustra at 2013-03-16 02:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

#3 | Posted by Jacque_Strap

in your own words, what is the correct interpretation of a p-value?

since you've done so much critical thinking, and whatnot, this ought to be really easy.

#21 | Posted by Zarathustra at 2013-03-16 02:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

#19 | POSTED BY NUTCASE

Flights to "Europe" leave on a daily basis.

#22 | Posted by dean_buvia at 2013-03-16 08:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

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