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Dowd: Dick Cheney's Epic Fail

Maureen Dowd: Dick Cheney certainly gives certainty a black eye. In a documentary soon to appear on Showtime, The World According to Dick Cheney, America's most powerful and destructive vice president woos history by growling yet again that he was right and everyone else was wrong. Cheney, who came from a family of Wyoming Democrats, says his conservative bent was strengthened watching the anti-Vietnam War protests at the University of Wisconsin, where he was pursuing a doctorate and dodging the draft. "I can remember the mime troupe meeting there and the guys that ran around in white sheets with the entrails of pigs, dripping blood," he said. Maybe if he'd paid more attention to the actual war, conducted with a phony casus belli in a country where we did not understand the culture, he wouldn't have propelled America into two more Vietnams.

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He won't he's hell-bound, and not worth watching on TV either.

#1 | Posted by reitze at 2013-03-10 12:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

He's safe, every since an innocent human heart was transplanted into his cold, dark self.

But ask yourself, what did the heart do to deserve Dick Cheney?

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2013-03-10 08:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Vice comes clean: He was the real president"

Valerie Jarrett will come clean next.

#3 | Posted by KBM at 2013-03-10 09:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Valerie Jarrett will come clean next.

#3 | Posted by KBM

Did Michelle Malkin feed you that line?

#4 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-10 09:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

The problem for neocons is that their crimes are so huge that it would take much more courage than they possess to acknowledge them. They will go to their graves pretending that they still believe their actions surrounding the Iraq invasion were justified. To his credit Robert McNamara had the courage, in the end, to acknowledge that his actions amounted to crimes against humanity.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-10 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The problem for neocons is that their crimes are so huge that it would take much more courage than they possess to acknowledge them."

And much more courage than those possess whom have the ability to investigate and prosecute them.

#6 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2013-03-10 11:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

Dick Cheney would kill 5,000 more Americans before admit to being wrong.

#7 | Posted by Sully at 2013-03-10 12:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

"And much more courage than those possess whom have the ability to investigate and prosecute them."

Unfortunately so. Do we even know who really killed JFK?

#8 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-10 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

"To his credit Robert McNamara had the courage, in the end, to acknowledge that his actions amounted to crimes against humanity."

I still remember the NY Times editorial shredding that SOB, too, after he fessed up in his book. They really felt betrayed because they had given Mac credibility only to find out decades later he was a liar.
Only the SDS and the conservatives were speaking the truth about Mac in the LBJ 60's. They were dismissed as fanatics for it.
But MacNamara, of course, headed off to lead the World Bank, enhancing his elite cred while allowing him to ruin even more countries.

#9 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-03-10 12:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

ha ha...this is so great..

palin
cheney
43
ME

you poor saps are gonna be heartbroken when those people are gone...you'll have to turn on yourselves and I DONT mean that in a good 'hands on' way either...

ha ha

#10 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-03-10 04:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Only the SDS and the conservatives were speaking the truth about Mac in the LBJ 60's. They were dismissed as fanatics for it."

Conservatives? I don't so much recall that. I think the conservatives were still quite enveloped in the fear of the Domino Theory.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-10 05:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dick Cheney lives rent free in the skulls of liberals everywhere. He's retired, he's old, he's not in charge if anything, let it go and use that cranium space for knowledge that might actually do you some good, like budget numbers from the democrats. Oh that right there aren't any. Never mind.

#12 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-03-10 05:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

"two more Vietnams"

Afganistan is not another Vietnam.

For starters that conflict was brought to us on 9/11.

#13 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-10 05:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Afganistan is not another Vietnam.

Thats what the Russians said.

#14 | Posted by Federalist at 2013-03-10 06:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

FEDERALIST have you any idea how badly that war went for the soviets and how relatively well we're doing in Afganistan?

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-10 06:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

#15 | POSTED BY TOR

You only know what your told.

I'm sure all the people in Russia were told all was well.

#16 | Posted by Federalist at 2013-03-10 06:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

speaking of...DID I HEAR right this AM that karsi is accusing the US and al qaida are colluding together to keep troops there and in charge??

AND danni mentioned sds...

watched preview today when watching a great movie.."QUARTET"...and one preview was about a former weatherman get outed and such and the main CRIMINAL from the weathermen is played by susan sarandon...excellant type casting

#17 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-03-10 06:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

FEDERALIST by your logic we shouldn't believe the moon landing happened.

PS no Russians knew the war was going badly.

#18 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-10 06:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

"For starters that conflict was brought to us on 9/11."

I felt that way too at the time, in hind sight I wished we had allowed the CIA to handle the way they wanted.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-10 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I wished we had allowed the CIA to handle the way they wanted."

8/ Take a good look folks I doubt DANNI will ever say this again.

#20 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-10 06:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

"in hind sight I wished we had allowed the CIA to handle the way they wanted.

#19 | Posted by danni

Had that opinion since January, 2009.

#21 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-10 06:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

"two more Vietnams"

Afganistan is not another Vietnam.

For starters that conflict was brought to us on 9/11.

And the Vietnam "conflict" wasn't brought to us in the Gulf of Tonkin?

In truth both events were culminations of things that had been brewing for decades.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2013-03-10 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Gulf of Tonkin event took place on the other side of the planet.

9/11 happend in New York City.

There is a major difference between those two.

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-10 10:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

WOW THIS IS AMAZING..

not anything about cheney....the amazing part is anyone still taking MO seriously as a journalist after one hit piece after another on "W"

#24 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-03-10 10:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Afganistan is not another Vietnam.

For starters that conflict was brought to us on 9/11.

#13 | Posted by Tor

The hunt for al queda in afgahistan was brought to us by 9-11. The next decade of intra-tribal war and "nation building" not so much. Other than whacking bin laden, most of that decade revolved around protecting karsick from his pashtun bros, not killing alquedians in afghanistan.

#25 | Posted by northguy3 at 2013-03-10 10:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dick Cheney lives rent free in the skulls of liberals everywhere.

So you support his selling banned equipment to Iran through a Halliburton subsidiary? Lying America into war with Iraq, twice? Saying "Reagan proved deficits don't matter"? Or does the "R" after his name absolve him of everything?

#27 | Posted by northguy3 at 2013-03-10 10:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dick Cheney lives rent free in the skulls of liberals everywhere.

Carter lives rent free in the skulls of conservatives everywhere. Like a good Republican, Cheney had others pay for his delusions.

And speaking of Carter, I just love the fact that it was his grandson who brought Etchy's 47% speech to the light of day because righties love to slam his grandad. Now THAT'S family values!

#28 | Posted by northguy3 at 2013-03-11 12:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

**** "entrails of pigs, dripping blood" is a good Metaphor for the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld REGIME!

#29 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2013-03-11 02:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

It was Dubya's responsibility to ask Cheney to resign after the Valerie Plame incident. Instead, they scapegoated his assistant who fell on the sword for his boss.

They were both epic failures ~ not to mention gutless wonders ~ and both of them should have been charged with high treason and executed.

And still, the Republicans can't wait to hand the neo-con baton to the next scum bucket they can shoehorn into the Oval Office ~ by hook or by crook.

JEB seems willing to sell his soul.

#30 | Posted by Twinpac at 2013-03-11 04:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

There is a major difference between those two.

How so? As a casus belli they seem comparable.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2013-03-11 06:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Had that opinion since January, 2009."

Long before that. Remember, even Obama supported the Afghan war so pretending that my change of mind on that war was political is utter nonsense.

#32 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-11 06:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

Can you imagine a movie about Joe Biden?!?!?!

#33 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2013-03-11 08:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

This is all interesting, but irrelevant. For five years we have had a different president. Why not focus on what he is, or is not, doing? Oh wait...he is the messiah, he does no wrong (nor leading, nor responsibility).

#34 | Posted by danv at 2013-03-11 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

As long as Bush and Cheney aren't in jail shackled to some wet, moldy wall, what they did to this country is still relevant.

#35 | Posted by kamakiri at 2013-03-11 01:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dick Cheney would kill 5,000 more Americans before admit to being wrong.

#7 | Posted by Sully

Dick Cheney would have killed 5,000 or more Americans AND still not admit to being wrong.

--IDNFTFYIFTFM

I did not fix that for you I fixed that for me.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-03-11 03:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Can you imagine a movie about Joe Biden?!?!?!

#33 | Posted by DavetheWave

Why not? I actually liked the movie W. for it's humorous perspective which seemed fairly accurate and would have been even funnier except for the horrible legacy he left us.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-03-11 03:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

And no one wants to admit Dick (Gotta love that name) dodged the draft, was collecting funds from Halliburton while he was sitting VP and sent us back 40 years in reputation globally. Right wing nuts - gotta love em, for a cross and a Dixie flag you got their vote!

#38 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2013-03-11 05:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

And no one wants to admit Dick (Gotta love that name) dodged the draft, was collecting funds from Halliburton while he was sitting VP and sent us back 40 years in reputation globally. Right wing nuts - gotta love em, for a cross and a Dixie flag you got their vote!

#39 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2013-03-11 05:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

"And no one wants to admit Dick (Gotta love that name) "

I wonder if parents even name their kids "Richard" any more, knowing that their little brat will be called "Dick."

#40 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-11 05:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

It was Dubya's responsibility to ask Cheney to resign after the Valerie Plame incident. Instead, they scapegoated his assistant who fell on the sword for his boss.

They were both epic failures ~ not to mention gutless wonders ~ and both of them should have been charged with high treason and executed.

And still, the Republicans can't wait to hand the neo-con baton to the next scum bucket they can shoehorn into the Oval Office ~ by hook or by crook.

JEB seems willing to sell his soul.

#30 | Posted by Twinpac

what?? congrats on coming out of that coma you've been in...

#41 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-03-11 11:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder if parents even name their kids "Richard" any more, knowing that their little brat will be called "Dick."
#40 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-11 05:50 PM
--------
Old Tricky Dick ruined it for the rest of us Dicks.

Dick is a hard name to live with, that's for sure.

www.babynamewizard.com

#42 | Posted by madscientist at 2013-03-11 11:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dick was watching Flight 77 come in to the Pentagon. nuff said. obviously, not worried or he would have blown it to sam hell.

www.youtube.com

#43 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2013-03-12 12:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Dick Cheney lives rent free in the skulls of liberals everywhere. He's retired, he's old, he's not in charge if anything, let it go and use that cranium space for knowledge that might actually do you some good, like budget numbers from the democrats. Oh that right there aren't any. Never mind.

#12 | Posted by paneocon

IN OTHER WORDS, please forget what republicans did last time they had the white house. Stop talking about it. It never happened. We never elected a retarded puppet taking orders from a heartless war profiteer. We never wrecked the economy spending trillions on unnecessary ground wars while giving massive tax cuts. Let's just look forward to 2016 shall we? Give us another chance...

#44 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2013-03-12 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Or does the "R" after his name absolve him of everything?

#27 | POSTED BY NORTHGUY3 AT 2013-03-10 10:58 PM | REPLY | FLAG

That is a rhetorical question.

#45 | Posted by 726 at 2013-03-12 05:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

#44 - "IN OTHER WORDS, please forget what republicans did last time they had the white house. Stop talking about it. It never happened."

No not at all. We should never forget how we were duped into Iraqi, just ignorant about Afghanistan, or how American's anger over 9-11 was used to set-up the ever growing federal police state.

But for five years this president hasn't done much better than Bush and the media and press just give him a pass. Perhaps we should focus on what we can change now, not what is the past.

#46 | Posted by danv at 2013-03-12 05:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

But for five years this president hasn't done much better than Bush and the media and press just give him a pass. Perhaps we should focus on what we can change now, not what is the past.

#46 | Posted by danv

Let's be real. Yes his drone policy and civil liberty policies suck, but Bush STARTED 2 unnecessary trillion dollar ground wars. Obama ENDED 2 unnecessary trillion dollar ground wars. So enough with the false equivalency.

We should never lose focus on Bush's mistakes in the middle east because Bush's owners will have us do it again if we let them. The "lets just look forward" approach is a recipe for repeating the mistakes. Never forget what the last repub president did. No matter how much repubs tell you to look forward instead of back.

#47 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2013-03-12 06:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

#46: DANV: "We should never forget how we were duped into Iraqi..."

What...DANV speaks for the country...or just stupid repukes...?

...maybe you just have a mouse in your pocket...but there were those were NOT duped, but spoke truth to power at the time...

...where were you then, oh mighty oracle DANV?....and what was your response at time to those non-duped who spoke out...did you support them? Did you listen to what they were saying? Or did you heap scorn and ridicule upon them?

...nevermind...it is pretty obvious where you stood...but...hey...you were DUPED!

...no wonder you don't want to discuss the past...

...LOL...

#48 | Posted by 1EyedMan at 2013-03-12 07:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

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