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Monday, March 04, 2013

In the high-end suburb of University Park, 15 minutes east of downtown Sarasota, Fla., there's a three-bedroom, single-story home within walking distance of the local country club. Not the sort of place you'd go to buy a Soviet anti-aircraft system with four automatic 23mm cannons. But records indicate that a ZSU-23, a Russian-built air-defense system deployed by dozens of countries from Armenia to Zimbabwe, was indeed brokered for sale by a company registered at the home. The customer in the transaction? The U.S. government.

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Atlas International Trading and the suburban Sarasota home offer an introduction into one of the most important, yet unexplored, parts of the intelligence industry. Atlas is just one member of a small web of competing companies that make up the Pentagon's Foreign Materiel Acquisition and Exploitation program and its classified cousins. It is an unusual specialty: buying up foreign-made weaponry and selling it to various U.S. agencies so that technicians can figure out how it works.

In the aggregate, the program aims to procure every Russian or Chinese plane any adversary may, one day, fly in combat. It means getting hold of surface-to-air missiles around the world to see how to evade them, every radar ever invented so that stealth technology can stay stealthy, and every Multiple Launch Rocket System to look into how barrages of rockets might be evaded.

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And the James Bond movies make it seem as if we must send a super hero to acquire such weaponry. All we need is a stack of Benjamins.
Who says capitalism does not work?

#1 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-03-03 01:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

The US, Russia, and China are the number 1 sellers of illegal arms dealers to third world country's. That is a simple fact our government and others have proven time and time again to flood more arms.

#2 | Posted by zack991 at 2013-03-03 10:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe it's because the US, Russia, and China are the number 1 manufacturers of arms. Really not a hard concept to understand....for most people.

#3 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2013-03-03 10:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

P.S. what's the NRA's position on selling guns? Hmmmm?

#4 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2013-03-03 10:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

American F-15 pilots having fun sitting in Pakistani JF-17 cockpit.

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#5 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-03-03 11:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nobody gives a tinker's dam about some thrid world version of a real plane. Come back to us when your so-called pilots have done anything besides crashing one into a Karachi slum.

#6 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2013-03-03 11:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Come back to us when your so-called pilots have done anything besides crashing one into a Karachi slum."

Harry: "your"?
Are you Tosser?

#7 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-03-04 12:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

That should wind him up...

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-03-04 12:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

TY, Redial, but it was not my intention.

#9 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-03-04 01:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Harry: "your"?
Are you Tosser?

Looks like he's trying very hard to be a new "tosser". LOL

Seems to have some ways to go.

#10 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-03-04 01:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Come back to us when your so-called pilots have done anything besides crashing one

We fly F117 "stealth" fighters? LOL

Oops!

www.youtube.com

#11 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-03-04 02:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

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Two Pak airforce F-7PG (migs) aircraft with an American F-22.

#12 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-03-04 02:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

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Pak airforce Mig and Mirage exercising with USAF and Gawd knows who else.

#13 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-03-04 03:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Point is, Americans never turn down a chance to get close to or examine or play a war game against any aircraft or equipment that they didn't make.

The article is 100% correct and there is nothing strange or new about it.

#14 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-03-04 03:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

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PAF F-7PG (Chinese double-delta wing mod of the Mig-21)

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MIG pilot.

#15 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-03-04 03:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Told ya.

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-03-04 08:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

It was my pleasure.

#17 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-03-04 09:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

I always enjoy teaching something new to ignorant folks.

#18 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-03-04 09:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Try teaching moderation to Pakistanis then, Rigel.

#19 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-03-04 02:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good defensive work, which is what they're supposed to do. I prefer they do their job than invade every other country that says ans does something we don't like (unless they're too big, we only pick on little countries, like any bully does)

#20 | Posted by nutcase at 2013-03-04 06:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Atlas International Trading .... buying up foreign-made weaponry and selling it to various U.S. agencies so that technicians can figure out how it works

Thanks for blowing that cover, idiot. The press is sure smart these days.

Of course, if we are doing it to them, they are doing it to us. Been going on since rocks where thrown in defense.

#21 | Posted by sames1 at 2013-03-04 06:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Thanks for blowing that cover, idiot.

Scooter Libby works for Defensenews.com?

#22 | Posted by northguy3 at 2013-03-04 06:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

When you buy arms on the Black Market, how do you know they'll show up for work?

#23 | Posted by cookfish at 2013-03-04 07:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Thanks for blowing that cover, idiot. The press is sure smart these days."

My first thought too, Sames. But this is a defense industry mag and I suspect their readers did not like their hegemony disturbed.
Besides, Atlas is just one of several such companies according to the article, so maybe these particular people ticked off the wrong ones.

#24 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-03-04 08:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Thanks for blowing that cover, idiot. The press is sure smart these days."

Yeah... there's no other way anyone could figure out how a 30 year old weapon like the ZSU-23 works.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-03-04 10:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Every detail helps, Redial. You have a point but there's no such thing as overkill when researching threats.

#26 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-03-04 10:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

My point is that this is hardly a covert intelligence operation.

To your point, all it takes is money.

#27 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-03-04 10:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

My point is that this is hardly a covert intelligence operation.

To your point, all it takes is money.

#28 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-03-04 10:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Please stop repeating yourself....

Try teaching moderation to Pakistanis then, Rigel.

We can do "moderation". We treat your Afghan Taliban with moderation, don't we? Which is why you are still stuck there fighting over absolutely nothing. LOL

#29 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-03-04 10:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

We have bought a lot of Soviet/Russian equipment. We used to have an entire tank company at Fort Hood, with T72/ T80 tanks- bought from the Egyptians. We have just about all the new stuff at Aberdeen Proving grounds. When we really need to know the performance of a system we buy them from third countries or Russian individuals who have them at their disposal. We test Russian AA missiles out at White Sands NM. Lord knows we got every thing we could want from Iraq, that Russian crap decorates the front of almost every unit headquarters. I worked on this stuff- believe me it was not built to last- in one word it was cheep.

#30 | Posted by docnjo at 2013-03-05 10:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

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