No One is Taking Away Your Suburbs | Drudge Retort

Monday, March 04, 2013

No One is Taking Away Your Suburbs

Jeff Turrentine, Slate: Pssst! Have you heard about Agenda 21? The secret plot to collectivize private property -- hatched by United Nations internationalists and midwifed by operatives ensconced within our own government -- all in the name of "ending sprawl" and "encouraging sustainability"? The seizure of suburban homes by jackbooted, gun-toting U.N. thugs? The involuntary relocation of displaced suburbanites to cramped dwellings in densely packed cities?

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No? Seriously? You haven't heard about any of this?

Don't blame Glenn Beck. His magazine, The Blaze, put Agenda 21 on the cover of its January/February 2012 issue; the article contained therein, its editors promised, would expose "the global scheme that has the potential to wipe out freedoms of all U.S. citizens."

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#1 | Posted by ichiro at 2013-03-03 07:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

No.

Obama will not abolish suburbia.

High petroleum prices will abolish suburbia.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-03 07:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

"High petroleum prices will abolish suburbia."

Nope. My father spends $600 a month on gas driving to his pecan orchard every day (1 hour there, 1 hour back). Yeah, he complains, but that's about $3000 a year for $50,000 in income.

To you, it may seem like a lot, but to the middle class it's just a drop in the bucket, or people wouldn't still be buying SUV's and large trucks.

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2013-03-03 08:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

$7200 hundred. $3000 is about my own gas bill....

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2013-03-03 08:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

#4

Like I said, high petroleum prices will end suburbia.

#5 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-03 08:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

The redistribution of $1.4 billion each year spent on the Obama family last year is the total cost of the presidency, factoring the cost of the biggest staff in history at the highest wages ever, a 50 percent increase in the numbers of appointed czars and an Air Force One running with the frequency of a scheduled air line.

Perspective: $1.4 billion is equal to spending seven times Mitt Romney's entire net-worth every year. If Romney had to pay for Barack and Michelle's lifestyle this year, he would have been bankrupt by the third week in February.

Now, can we please get back to talking about the evil, freeloading rich, who didn't build anything?

#6 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2013-03-03 08:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Suburbia isn't going anywhere. It is laughable to even consider that Obama is trying to kill suburbia. Take your meds folks!! This thread is incredibly laughable.

#7 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-03 08:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

GREATAMERICAN not only throws out fake numbers but seems to like the idea of Obama flying in a plane that doesn't have defense systems.

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-03 08:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Culture of urbanites is significantly different from the suburbs and rural areas. Gun control and motor vehicles being a couple examples. That's what the PTB wishes to change.

#9 | Posted by Robson at 2013-03-03 09:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

What, Obama is annexing suburbia---what next?

#10 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-03 09:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

No surprise. Obama wants to abolishes the USA so what's a suburb?

He's already openly committing treason- pee'ing on the constitution he swore to uphold. Do you worship him? Love him more than life? Willing to die for the truth? Sooner rather than later you're gonna have to decide.

Take his mark?
Welcome to the Hunger Games.
May the odds be ever against u.

#11 | Posted by reitze at 2013-03-03 10:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Reitze #11 No surprise. Obama wants to abolishes the USA so what's a suburb?

He's already openly committing treason- pee'ing on the constitution he swore to uphold. Do you worship him? Love him more than life? Willing to die for the truth? Sooner rather than later you're gonna have to decide.

Had Bush been impeached for his un-Constitutional actions it would have caused all future Presidents to back-off, instead of pushing for more power at the expense of the citizenry. I'm all in favor of Congress pushing back on the imperial Presidency through the use of impeachment. It's why we need a politically divided government.

#12 | Posted by Robson at 2013-03-03 11:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Suburbia isn't going anywhere. It is laughable to even consider that Obama is trying to kill suburbia. Take your meds folks!! This thread is incredibly laughable.

#7 | Posted by danni

If I had a son that was a "sheeple", he'd look like danni

#13 | Posted by roadrunner22 at 2013-03-04 07:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

Don't blame Glenn Beck. His magazine, the Blaze, put Agenda 21 on the cover of its January/February 2012 issue

Well then, it just has to be true.

#14 | Posted by 726 at 2013-03-04 07:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

"If I had a son that was a "sheeple", he'd look like danni"

Translation: "Baaaahhhhhh!!" Roadrunner's son would be a ram.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-04 07:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

#13 | Posted by roadrunner22

In order to actually understand this guy's posts you'd need an updated Bleat-English/English-Bleat Dictionary.

#16 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-03-04 08:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

" a 50 percent increase in the numbers of appointed czars"

Even if the rest of what you wrote is true, this should not be counted in your number. Czars are part of presidential staffing costs?

" Obama wants to abolishes the USA so what's a suburb?"

Abolish the USA? Bwahahahahahahaha!

"In order to actually understand this guy's posts you'd need an updated Bleat-English/English-Bleat Dictionary."

We've got bleat; we've got jeep-jeep. What next?

And my friend Eliot needs to issue a Paranoiac's Guide to American Politics. Seriously, Reitze, I like ya, man, but Conspiracy Theory was just a movie. Yes, erosion of rights is a serious issue, but you go very far, very often.

#17 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-04 08:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

Oh...it's coming...you can count on that:

Georgia lawmakers meet over Obama's ‘mind-control' UN dictatorship plot

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#18 | Posted by Dave at 2013-03-04 12:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

More on "Agenda21":

agenda21conspiracy.com

Agenda 21 is Sustainable Development, and was created through the United Nations. It is the blueprint for depopulation and total control, under the banner of saving the environment. It is like the head of a beast that has thousands of tentacles, originating from the United Nations.

The 3 primary tools that are used are:
Man-made global warming
Water shortages
Endangered Species Act

We all want clean air, water, land and food, but phony environmentalism is designed to create fear in order to implement the policies of tyranny. For example, the Globalists used global warming fear mongering in order to usher in the Cap & Trade and carbon tax schemes without debate.

The Globalists use governments and other major groups (NGOs - Non-Governmental Organizations) to force their policies. When you understand Agenda 21 Sustainable Development, you can recognize it in your neighborhood. Because the collectivists' battle to take control is from 'Global to Local', you can affect the world by taking action locally when you understand the rules and tools they use.

The purpose of this website is to explain the problem and then to provide models of success that can be replicated in your neighborhood to overcome Agenda 21. We can morph our neighborhoods locally, and then expand freedom globally.

Individuals do have power. Our future history starts now.
- See more at: agenda21conspiracy.com

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#19 | Posted by Dave at 2013-03-04 12:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Georgia state Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers recently convened the Republican caucus at the Georgia State Capitol to discuss an alleged conspiracy between President Barack Obama, non-governmental organizations, state government entities and chambers of commerce to create a United Nations communist dictatorship.

Mother Jones‘ Tim Murphy on Wednesday reported that the meeting had included a presentation by Field Searcy, a conservative activist who was booted from the Georgia Tea Party over conspiracy theories about Obama's birth certificate and the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

It is amazing how people this stupid end up being elected over and over.

#20 | Posted by 726 at 2013-03-04 01:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

$20/gallon gas tomorrow would spell the end of the suburbs.

#21 | Posted by nutcase at 2013-03-04 09:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Is Ted Nugget still alive?

Is Mumia Abu-Jamal still in prison?

So much for Obama being a threat.

#22 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-04 09:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

The most funny part of this is that, in order to buy in to the idea that suburbia will become too expensive for commuting because of high energy prices, completely negates the entire concept that free markets are the mothers of invention. I still believe that they are, if there is demand for cheap transportation, cheap transportation will happen. It may not look like today's transportation but Mommy and Daddy will still be able to commute via whatever transportation vehicle makes the most sense. Daddy may get on a bus, he may car pool, he may buy an electric vehicle, or he may be transported to work via a Star Trek transporter. If there is a market someone will come along to satisfy it. Energy prices may need to rise even more though, I don't promise it will be cheap.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-04 09:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

" I still believe that they are, if there is demand for cheap transportation, cheap transportation will happen."

Just like magic! The laws of physics, or in this case, petroleum geology, really doesn't mean anything at all if you wish really really hard and click your ruby-red slippers three times.

#24 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-04 10:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

May the odds be ever in your favor? Or haven't you noticed yet?

You're kids are in the hunger games.

#25 | Posted by reitze at 2013-03-04 10:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

My kids are just fine, Reitze--they're clever little bastards with curious minds. They question much and accept much, as kids have done for centuries. No one is forcing my kids to do anything, except me and their mom, of course.

I think you liked those books a little too much, and they're not even all that good.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

#26 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-04 10:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

"You're kids are in the hunger games."

Best way to end that is bring back the CCC.

#27 | Posted by Tor at 2013-03-04 10:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

My kids are just fine, Reitze--they're clever little bastards with curious minds. They question much and accept much, as kids have done for centuries.

#26 | Posted by pragmatist

have they questioned why "free health care" is gonna cost so much?

are they stumped by lack of a vibrant middle class in socialist nations?

do they wonder how some bureaucrat in DC can set their school's menu with yucky food?

#28 | Posted by roadrunner22 at 2013-03-04 10:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

"or he may be transported to work via a Star Trek transporter."

That's the problem with the Star Trek series; it turned an entire generation into idiots with gadgets.

#29 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-04 10:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

"have they questioned why "free health care" is gonna cost so much?
are they stumped by lack of a vibrant middle class in socialist nations?:

They're six and eight, Road.

"do they wonder how some bureaucrat in DC can set their school's menu with yucky food?"

Um, some bureaucrat in DC doesn't, though there is probably some impact given the way money flows. We pack their lunches (and one goes to a private school, so there's no gov't involvement to speak of).

#30 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-04 10:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Just like magic! The laws of physics, or in this case, petroleum geology, really doesn't mean anything at all if you wish really really hard and click your ruby-red slippers three times."

Like crazy stuff like people will get on buses. If people want to live in the suburbs they will figure out how to afford it, just like they have in NY where millions get on trains every day and ride out to the suburbs.

#31 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-04 10:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

"If people want to live in the suburbs they will figure out how to afford it,"

Like magic! With just enough positive thinking anybody can live anywhere! You and Tony Robbins should offer seminars in Somalia and turn that country around.

#32 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-04 10:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
#26 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-04 10:08 PM | Reply | Flag: LOL

I have no interest in reading THG either. But the movie's good - try Netflix. It does represent the trajectory of Agenda 21... you should try watching it so your criticisms of that idea could be more credible.

#33 | Posted by reitze at 2013-03-04 10:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Republican Party platform stated that "We strongly reject the U.N. Agenda 21 as erosive of American sovereignty."
--
In support of Agenda 21; these include Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and Harry Reid.

In my opinion this wouldn't bode very well for Reid and probably others.

As an American I believe Agenda 21 should be opposed. I further believe that America should divorce the United Nations, save billions of dollars, and rediscover our constitution and bill of rights.

#34 | Posted by SamSpade at 2013-03-05 07:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I have no interest in reading THG either. But the movie's good - try Netflix. It does represent the trajectory of Agenda 21... you should try watching it so your criticisms of that idea could be more credible."

I've read the book. (And I have serious doubts that the movie is any good. Hollywood doesn't have the balls to depict what is depicted in the book. I'm fairly certain it's all cleaned up and the people made pretty.) How about you explain its connection directly, rather than title-dropping? What in Agenda 21 is parallel with the book? And how exactly does Agenda 21 ruin anyone's rights? I don't know enough about it; I'm seriously asking. You like to drop little paranoiac comments. Maybe you should try developing an argument. There are also groups that believe in getting rid of one-family houses (voluntarily, by moving to these sorts of communities). Are they Hunger Games creators (not Creators), too?

#35 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-05 07:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

#6 @greatamerican

WOW ~ Cha-Ching! A Billion Dollar Baby!

-Confirmed.

#36 | Posted by SamSpade at 2013-03-05 07:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

"You and Tony Robbins should offer seminars in Somalia and turn that country around."

Yeah, because the problems in America are so similar to those in Somalia. You are negative about everything, nothing good ever happens, ever will happen. Sad for you.

#37 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-05 07:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

Like magic! With just enough positive thinking anybody can live anywhere!

You are like a 10 year old in 1950 who said "No one will ever set foot on the moon in my lifetime. It can't be done!"

#38 | Posted by 726 at 2013-03-05 08:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

If people want to live in the suburbs they will figure out how to afford it,

#31 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-04 10:31 PM | Reply

Thank goodness the low information gang banging demonrat voters haven't figured it out yet. We would see ongoing Detroit transplantations.

#39 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-05 08:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Yeah, because the problems in America are so similar to those in Somalia. You are negative about everything, nothing good ever happens, ever will happen. Sad for you."

I'm not negative, I'm just not delusional like some of you pollyannas who believe in rainbows and unicorns.

#40 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-05 08:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

But who knows? I could be wrong. Maybe Santa Claus will rescue the most idiotic and unsustainable housing project in human history: suburbia.

#41 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-05 08:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

You are negative about everything, nothing good ever happens, ever will happen.

#37 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-05 07:58 AM | Reply |

Drum roll, please. A cataclysmic self-retort has just occurred on the DR.

#42 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-05 08:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Drum roll, please. A cataclysmic self-retort has just occurred on the DR."

Really? I don't see Danni as generally negative--about the GOP, yes, but not generally.

#43 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-05 09:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Drum roll, please. A cataclysmic self-retort has just occurred on the DR."

Really? I don't see Danni as generally negative--about the GOP, yes, but not generally.

#43 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-05 09:02 AM | Reply

Just ask yourself this question---what is the major group she castigates regardless of any topic and then define "generally".

#44 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-05 09:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

The End of Suburbia

www.youtube.com

#45 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-05 09:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Suburbia isn't going anywhere. It is laughable to even consider that Obama is trying to kill suburbia. Take your meds folks!! This thread is incredibly laughable.

#7 | POSTED BY DANNI

Psst! Did you read the article?

#46 | Posted by fribo at 2013-03-05 03:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ritzie...basing his crazed social/political theories on "The Hunger Games"....

...not the stupid kids book, but the brilliant kids movie...

...that 'splains alot.

...LOL...

#47 | Posted by 1EyedMan at 2013-03-05 04:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Just ask yourself this question---what is the major group she castigates regardless of any topic and then define "generally"."

That's not negative about everything. Or are you gonna castigate PA, and Jest, and yourself, for being negative about everything because you generally bash Dems and liberals every chance you get?

47: snort!

#48 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-05 07:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

So it's a conspiracy theory that Agenda 21 is meant to attack suburbs and rural areas, but then the articles goes on to attack the whole notion of expanding population, suburbs and rural areas and why we need to embrace Agenda 21 in order to curtail them.

I mean I can't be the only person that finds that to be circular hypocrisy, which seems to be the new norm in explaining things. Say its a conspiracy that this does something negative, then go on to explain how the negative is such a good thing. Sad part is people just eat it up.

#49 | Posted by daniel_3 at 2013-03-05 07:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Paranoiac's Guide to American Politics. Seriously, Reitze, I like ya, man, but Conspiracy Theory was just a movie. Yes, erosion of rights is a serious issue, but you go very far, very often.
#17 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-04 08:15 AM | Reply | Flag: LOL

Thanks prag. I have a good time here - mostly in sarcasm mode.

#50 | Posted by reitze at 2013-03-05 10:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sarcasm, eh? You REALLY gotta work on yer delivery.

#51 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-03-05 11:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

The suburban lifestyle is completely maintainable, especially given our current population growth rate. A gas prices rise over the next decade or two, alternatives to gasoline will begin to dominate the personal vehicle marketplace. Hydrogen, all-electric, bio-fuels, as well as hybrid vehicles, which are already showing promise, will become more commonplace and the suburbs will merrily live on.

Viva La Suburbs!

#52 | Posted by danv at 2013-03-06 11:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hydrogen, all-electric, bio-fuels, as well as hybrid vehicles, which are already showing promise, will become more commonplace and the suburbs will merrily live on.

I drive a Matrix Neo; it uses YOU as the fuel source.

#53 | Posted by kanrei at 2013-03-06 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Hydrogen, all-electric, bio-fuels, as well as hybrid vehicles, which are already showing promise, will become more commonplace and the suburbs will merrily live on."

Hahahaha. Another techno-utopian with delusional fantasies. Sorry, there's no techno-fix that is going to save the "America way of live".

www.youtube.com

#54 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-06 11:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

The End of Suburbia

www.youtube.com

#45 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-05 09:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ah, you've discovered my friend Jim Kunstler (among others). He's quite persuasive, isn't he?

#55 | Posted by cbob at 2013-03-06 01:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nullifidian, read about graphene super-capacitors, the energy techno-fix that is going to save the "America way of life" by making electric cars truly versatile.

#56 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2013-03-06 01:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Ah, you've discovered my friend Jim Kunstler (among others). He's quite persuasive, isn't he?"

Yes he is, and he has the facts to back him up.
kunstler.com

#57 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-06 01:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hydro-fracking, ITER, graphene, Thorium - I think the future looks very bright for energy - especially cheap electricity.

Gas powered cars may go the way of dino, but electrics with graphene super-capacitors will replace them anyway.

#58 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2013-03-06 02:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Ah, you've discovered my friend Jim Kunstler (among others). He's quite persuasive, isn't he?"

Yes he is, and he has the facts to back him up.
kunstler.com

#57 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-03-06 01:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've attended his lectures and written articles about him and the work of the New Urbanists. I read his Clusterf*** Nation blog regularly. I'm not completely sold on his apocalyptic vision, but I think he's very insightful and well-informed about the futility of our current economic/land use arrangements. I also love his dark humor.

#59 | Posted by cbob at 2013-03-06 02:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Kunster, while entertaining is a "hopeless, hysterical hypochondriac"....

Its easy to point at the present and claim the sky is falling..... its another to offer a solution and take it on the chin. He is no different than Ray, which Nulli used to debate to no end. But today Nulli and Ray would get along famously they have the same philosophy, the end is near..... cats and dogs living together....

One day Knuster will be right about something and his followers will applaud his psychic prowess.....

What he is good for is looking at the world outside the Matrix, giving a man perspective, but don't take it as gospel regardless of "facts to back it up".....

On a side note, Paul Rand is doing an honest to god filibuster over the domestic drone usage.....anyone anyone?

#60 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2013-03-06 03:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

On to the next conspiracy theory!

#61 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2013-03-06 03:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

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