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Friday, March 01, 2013

Republicans love to claim that low-tax states such as Texas enjoy a disproportionate amount of economic success, while higher-tax states like California are economic basket cases. Republican governors in several states are using that rationale to propose gutting their state income taxes (and, in many instances, replacing them with regressive sales taxes).

But a new report from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy shows that so-called "high tax states" are actually experiencing more growth and less decline in income than states that are supposedly super-conducive to economic expansion.

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In reality, states that levy personal income taxes, including the states with the highest top rates, have seen more economic growth per capita and less decline in their median income level over the last ten years than the nine states that do not tax income. Unemployment rates have been nearly identical across states with and without income taxes.

Here's the breakdown:

– Four of the nine states without income taxes are actually doing worse than the average state in regards to economic growth per capita: Texas, Tennessee, Florida, and Nevada.

– Five of the nine states without income taxes are doing worse than average in terms of median income growth: New Hampshire, Florida, Tennessee, Alaska, and Nevada.

– Six of the nine states without income taxes had higher than average annual unemployment rates over the last decade: Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Washington, Alaska, and Nevada.

In fact, it was the "high tax" states that did the best in terms of growth

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You can access the ITEP study here: www.itep.org

The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) is a non-profit, non-partisan think tank that works on state and federal tax policy issues. ITEP was founded in 1980, and is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization. ITEP describes its mission as striving to "keep policymakers and the public informed of the effects of current and proposed tax polices on tax fairness, government budgets and sound economic policy."
. . .
ITEP's quantitative analyses are widely regarded as reliable by observers from across the political spectrum and by analysts within government.
en.wikipedia.org

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-03-01 07:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Haha think progress, cross check with WND and get back to us stooge.

#2 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2013-03-01 07:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Haha think progress, cross check with WND and get back to us stooge."

Only the ignorant would compare the two. You may disagree with Think Progress but they don't lie, they don't report out of context stories, etc. The false equivalency between extreme right wing media and liberal news media is laughable and only believed by those who are so far to the right that they need the reinforcement or else they would even laugh at themselves.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-01 07:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

#3 Your typing is wasted on WavyDave.

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2013-03-01 08:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

Finally, the theory Laffer uses to argue in favor of cutting state income tax rates downplays or even ignores the
importance of public investments like education and infrastructure to the success of state economies.

Investment in infrastructure, crime prevention and education are key factors in economic growth. Low taxes cannot compensate for their absence.

#5 | Posted by 726 at 2013-03-01 08:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

they don't report out of context stories

Making the assumption that personal income taxes is the only source for taxes in a state sure is taking things out of context.

States with "High Rate" Income Taxes are
Still Outperforming No-Tax States
www.itep.org

#6 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-03-01 08:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Haha think progress...
#2 | Posted by DavetheWave

Haha, poor Wavy Dave - always assumes that because he doesn't like the source, the message must be flawed. A word to the wise: it's the message, not - things being equal - the messenger.

Can you actually rebut the study's findings?

No?

Sooprise!

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-03-01 08:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

You may disagree with Think Progress but they don't lie, they don't report out of context stories, etc.
#3 | Posted by danni

I new there was a reason I won't read it.
~ Wavy Davey

#8 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-03-01 08:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

#5 | POSTED BY 726

In 726's Utopia you go to work and your check goes to the government who will send you back just what you need to live on.

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
Karl Marx

#9 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-03-01 08:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

No Sooprise! Creep Creep!

#10 | Posted by Dalton at 2013-03-01 08:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

those stats indicate that you can't tell the difference between a state that charges income tax and state that doesn't.

and states like Texas that don't have an income tax usually have pretty high property tax rates.

Bottom line.....what is a "high tax state"? how is it defined?

you can't just assume that a state without an income tax is a low tax state due to property, local, and sales taxes....

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2013-03-01 09:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Only the ignorant would compare the two. You may disagree with Think Progress but they don't lie, they don't report out of context stories, etc. The false equivalency between extreme right wing media and liberal news media is laughable and only believed by those who are so far to the right that they need the reinforcement or else they would even laugh at themselves."
#3 | Posted by danni

Where did you hear that?

Danni - MediaMatters

And you believed it?

Danni - Yes, MediaMatters can't put anything on the internet that isn't true.

Danni - Here comes my idol, he's an investigative reporter

Chris Matthews - Pig!

#12 | Posted by KBM at 2013-03-01 10:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

You would think that a PhD would know that correlation does not equal causation but maybe they don't teach that at printyourownshingle.com

#13 | Posted by Huguenot at 2013-03-01 10:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

"..replacing them with regressive sales taxes."

[...] logic. What is 'regressive' about a sales tax? Those who spend more, pay more tax. Those who spend less, pay less. It eliminates the Democrat loophole: Those who let us use their names to vote for our candidates in Chicago, Detroit, Philly and elsewhere pay no income tax while getting food stamps and rent subsidies.

#14 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-03-02 01:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."

Dr. Kervorkian

#15 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-03-02 01:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

In 726's Utopia you go to work and your check goes to the government who will send you back just what you need to live on.
From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
Karl Marx

#9 | POSTED BY PANEOCON AT 2013-03-01 08:54 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Perhaps you can give me a direct quote where I said that.

Of course you can't. You have to putter out lies to make your point. You sad sad man.

It must be so crushing, first November 6th 2012 and now to have your icon Laffer discredited as a purveyor of bunk, baloney and bullshark.

No wonder you have resorted to lying.

#16 | Posted by 726 at 2013-03-02 08:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

#16 | Posted by 726

You can almost hear the bewildered riiightie muttering under his breath, as he scurries from one lie to another distortion to even more unsupported "facts" ("armed intruders" is a personal fave), "So many lies, so little time..."

#18 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-03-02 08:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

"What is 'regressive' about a sales tax?"

No hope there.

#19 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-03-02 08:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

www.taxguru.net

#21 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-03-02 09:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

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