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Thursday, February 28, 2013

[Ohio] State Supreme Court justices sparred with lawyers on Wednesday in a heated hour of arguments over the extent to which a now-fired public school science teacher had the right to push his religious beliefs in class.

A lawyer for the school board that dismissed John Freshwater in 2011 said he waved a Bible at his students, handed out religious pamphlets and espoused creationism in his evolution lessons.

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Freshwater violated the constitutional separation between church and state and was rightfully fired, said David Smith, an attorney for the Mount Vernon School Board.

Smith said Freshwater can't "teach evolution from a Christian perspective" without violating constitutional protections against government establishment of religion.

"There is no academic freedom of the teacher to do that," Smith argued. "This is not a case about industrial hemp. It's not a case about the Iraqi war. Political sociological viewpoint is something completely different."

Freshwater's attorney, Rita Dunaway, said accounts of Freshwater's class conduct were exaggerated and he was exercising his academic freedom to explore controversial ideas.

She said the board's decision to dismiss Freshwater showed hostility toward religion.

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creationism in opposition to the cold hard facts is plain stupid.

#1 | Posted by klifferd at 2013-02-28 11:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

"There is no academic freedom of the teacher to do that," Smith argued. "This is not a case about industrial hemp. It's not a case about the Iraqi war. Political sociological viewpoint is something completely different."

Is the school arguing that hemp and the Iraq war are topics of political/sociological points of view permissible within the context of a science classroom while christian evoltion is not? If the teacher's attorney had any guts she could argue that given the times we live in christian evolutionary theory absolutely is s socio-political point of view. As long as he was not teaching rather than opining in a fashion similar to how would be done discussing the permissible subjects above, nor testing the class on that part of the lecture, maybe there's a bit of wiggle room Constitutionally speaking?

#2 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2013-02-28 12:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

As long as he is not proselytizing or teaching religion instead of science, but rather commenting on the reality of the public debate, such as it is, then one would think there is wigglebutt room.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-28 12:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

the reality of the public debate, such as it is

LOL

Zero.

#4 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2013-02-28 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

" christian evoltion "

That's some nice oxymoron you've got right there.

#5 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2013-02-28 12:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

" christian evoltion "
That's some nice oxymoron you've got right there.

I was paraphrasing the school's attorney who said, "teach evolution from a Christian perspective," taking his assumption as given that it was possible to "teach evolution from a Christian perspective." I was offering no opinion as to the validity of that assumption.

#6 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2013-02-28 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Have you ever read creation-science home-school textbook? The one I saw said the moon was 5,000 years old and "nobody knows what electricity is or where it comes from. Some scientists think it comes from the sun, or inside the earth."

This BS absolutely should not be taught.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2013-02-28 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Justice Paul Pfeifer was incredulous when Smith argued that Freshwater's evolution class wouldn't have been covered under the school district's controversial-issues policy.

"So there's nothing controversial about evolution," he said. "It is a theory, isn't it?"

*facepalm*

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-28 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

He was just teaching the "controversy".

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-28 06:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

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