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Thursday, February 28, 2013

Though journalist Bob Woodward claimed he was threatened by a senior White House official, the emails tell a different story. "It makes me very uncomfortable to have the White House telling reporters, you're going to regret doing something that you believe in," Woodward said in a CNN interview. The email exchange with White House economic adviser Gene Sperling shows him apologizing to Woodward after a verbal disagreement and telling him, "I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim." Woodward responds, "You do not ever have to apologize to me. ... I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice."

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earlier Wednesday on TV Woodward said Obama was showing a "kind of madness I haven't seen in a long time"

#1 | Posted by roadrunner22 at 2013-02-27 09:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't you dare speak about our daddy according to Chris Rock, we have to listen to what he has to says and obey.

#2 | Posted by zack991 at 2013-02-27 09:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

I believe Bob.

#3 | Posted by Huguenot at 2013-02-27 09:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wow, this is huge. It's just another instance of the Obama persona being exposed. Maybe more of the MSM that have given him a pass will start to bring a transparency to the man behind the mask/imagery. It would be long overdue. Of course, they don't care now since he won re-election with their blessings----now they can try to appear "fair and balanced" before the next election when they crown the next demonrat.

#4 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-27 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward certainly must have hit a nerve, as he's being pummeled by the usual suspects

I wonder if Woodward can now locate the 30 Benghazi survivors/ mercenaries being hidden by the administration

#5 | Posted by roadrunner22 at 2013-02-27 09:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward hasn't been on the right side of much of anything since "deepthroat" and watergate. Bernstein was the brains between the two of them.

#6 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-27 09:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.huffingtonpost.com

editors.talkingpointsmemo.com

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-27 10:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Until the email can be attributed to someone this is a non-story. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would know that if this were true Bob Woodward would publish the letter and say who wrote it.

#8 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2013-02-27 10:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

#6, 7, 8 - lol the usual suspects strike again
just can't believe a lib journo would turn on 'the-One'

#9 | Posted by roadrunner22 at 2013-02-27 10:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Lib journo?

Woodward [...]. Whatever he once was, he's now a total insider, and has been(hasbeen) for some time.

#10 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-27 10:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Poor roadrunner thinks I believe Obama is the messiah, or some such. You haven't been paying attention lately.

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-27 10:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Until the email can be attributed to someone this is a non-story. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would know that if this were true Bob Woodward would publish the letter and say who wrote it.

#8 | Posted by BruceBanner

I doubt it. He's probably saving it for later, so he can blow up the person's career a couple of years on by trashing him (or her, if it's that rat Valerie Jarrett) in a book he'll be writing.

It's Bob Woodward. Do you really think he made it up, knowing that his entire career and legacy would be tarnished forever as a result? Grow a brain dude.

#12 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-27 10:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

This will be fun to watch----Woodward did a reverse "Saul Alinsky" on Obama (create chaos; confusion)----let's see for the first time how he likes being the poundee instead of the pounder.

#13 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-27 10:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Um, woodward is kind of famous for exaggerating stuff. One of the reasons I never liked the guy.

#14 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-27 10:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

#12 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-27 10:15 PM | Reply |

Ugly, you're not that ugly with that comment----I was thinking the same thing. You don't think Woodward has had a lot of experience doing his due diligence through his Watergate escapade.

#15 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-27 10:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Deepthroat was probably a fictional character. A composite of Woodward's sources. Bob always liked to slip in a neat bit of unnecessary fiction in his work. His deathbed interview with Casey that couldn't have occurred, for example. It's an annoying trait, since you can't tell when he's lying.

#16 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-27 10:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Um, woodward is kind of famous for exaggerating stuff. One of the reasons I never liked the guy.

#14 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-27 10:17 PM | Reply

Alex, I've always felt Woodward can be a little loose with some of his facts. He's been known to do that.

#17 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-27 10:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's Bob Woodward. Do you really think he made it up,

Easily the most ignorant post of the day.

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-27 10:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

His deathbed interview with Casey that couldn't have occurred, for example. It's an annoying trait, since you can't tell when he's lying.

#16 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-27 10:21 PM | Reply |

That's exactly the particular instance I was thinking about as well----I agree with you that he is probably in all likelihood a very self-serving individual.

#19 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-27 10:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

Another Bubba-style disappearance?

#20 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2013-02-27 10:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Deepthroat

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2013-02-27 10:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Or George W. Bush saying, 'You know, I'm not going to invade Iraq because I can't get the aircraft carriers I need?'

This is actually a funny thing to say given Bush invaded with significantly less force than he was advised to out of his convictions we'd be met as liberators and heroes.

Talk about madness. Not only W's but Woodward's as well.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-27 10:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward -- detailed in his bestseller "The Price of Politics," the failed quest for a grand budget bargain, and later with his opinion piece in The WaPost -- makes plain that sequestration was an idea crafted by the White House. Obama personally approved the plan and later signed it into law.

what would Stalin do when some rebel began espousing facts?

#23 | Posted by roadrunner22 at 2013-02-28 06:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama = Stalin ?

Ask your doctor if Prozac is right for you, kiddo.

#24 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 06:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

lol, so ya would feel better with Mao? ... the self-admitted ideological idol of Obama staff, associates, advisers

#25 | Posted by roadrunner22 at 2013-02-28 06:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

Now that's some of that 'transparency' we've been hearing about!

#27 | Posted by cookfish at 2013-02-28 06:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward is losing it.

#28 | Posted by YAV at 2013-02-28 06:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

let's see..there was some other crap about being the most transparent or most honest or something like that.

and lets not forget WHO they are threatening. I wonder if Nixon ever threatened him..and we know how that turned out..

they are SO alienating WOODWARD that he's gonna be on FOX for at least the third time I know in two weeks....

AINT IT GREAT>???? lol

#29 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 06:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

Already debunked.

As I figured, the "regret" is because Woodward is just PLAIN WRONG in his assertion and would look like a fool. It was a warning not to look stupid, not a threat from the white house. But Have fun in your right wing echo chamber, righties....as woodward runs crying to that bastion of truth Sean Hannity. lol

#30 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 06:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

they are SO alienating WOODWARD

The same Bob Woodward that spent that last few years living in George W Bush's colon?

#31 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 06:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward seems incapable of doing a story without:

A) Taking extreme poetic license, making up scenarios, fictional characters, composite people to peddle a narrative

B) Injecting himself and his giant ego into the story, overshadowing it.

C) Being a total beltway insider and using the language of "villager" pundits in the bubble.

You never hear of Bernstein making an ass of himself like this.

#32 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 06:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

oh so jay carney and the white house of lies says it 'aint so joe'..

well HALLES BALles BOYS....I guessn it jest aint the rat thang afters all.

puuulease..

#33 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 06:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

woodward is WRONG...geesh DUDE>..

jay CARNEY said it was the pres's idea....guess he's a lying too..

wait a min..thats a bad example cause that little worm lies almost daily...

#34 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 06:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

and so WHEN will the white house 'debunk' GIBBS admission..

hee heeee heeeeeeeeee

#35 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 06:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

AND lets NOT forget one thing.

this POTUS has insulated the white house from "stuff' for over four years....barry can easily tell one of his 'peoples' to tell him that and

TA DA...NO heck no it didn't come from the 'white house'....and YOU PEOPLE SWaLLOW THAT STUFF....hee heeeeeeeee heeeee

#36 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 06:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why do you post like you're sniffing glue?

#38 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 06:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why do you post like an unquestioning lock-step robot?

#40 | Posted by cookfish at 2013-02-28 06:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

#12 | Posted by cookfish at 2013-02-28 06:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

I don't. I've been bashing Obama over drones, the drug war, and wiretapping for years now. Not my fault you don't [...] pay attention.

If you think I'M LOCKSTEP, you need medication. Didn't even vote for the guy! [...]

#41 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 06:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

#14 | Posted by cookfish at 2013-02-28 06:56 AM | Reply | Flag

I guess you missed all the fights I've had with Corky lately.

[...] You made the assertion, do your own research.

#43 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 06:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

hey alex and others..

you know you may have a point..

this was reported on FOX and he's a guest on hannity...so Im sure you're right...these right wing WACKO networks will just lie about it and

what's that?

( just a sec...Im getting a call..)

really...are you sure.

HEY ALEX...UH OH...you're right..it's all over THIS nutjob network..hee hee hee

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com

#44 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 06:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

It was said very clearly, you will regret doing this," he said.

Woodward

.let me get that again for you..

VERY CLEARLY..

hee hee

#45 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 07:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

Gotta go to work. Should I watch my back today, Alex?

#46 | Posted by cookfish at 2013-02-28 07:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

Cuz i'm bored and cookfish isn't bright enough to find these posts on his own:

why Obama would attempt to be President of all of the country, not just the Left.

#48 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-13 04:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Newest excuse for bad behavior by democrats. You'll see it again, folks. Lots.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-15 06:43 AM | Reply

And what civil liberty have you personally lost in the last 4 years?

I heard that for 6-7 years from the right whenever the topic of warrantless wiretapping came up.

Rcade (#83) I'm trying to shock some liberals back into sanity by pointing out their extreme hypocrisy.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-15 02:57 AM | Reply

How dare I demand the POTUS follow the law, not be George W Bush, AND keep his campaign promises!

I'm such an unreasonable guy.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-14 05:53 PM | Reply

This is hilarious.

Had McCain or Romney taken out bin Laden, defying Paki support of terrorists, as promised in their campaigns as Obama did, the Right would be adding their image to Mt. Rushmore.

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-14 05:44 PM | Reply | Flag

Totally true. Partisans are messed up...

Reminds me of certain lefty posters who raked W over the coals for his lousy civil liberties record, but give a harvard law graduate a pass at every opportunity.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-14 05:46 PM | Reply

So Obama uses the Hasan shooting to justify killing Alwaki but, calls it "work place violence" to avoid having to admit there was a terrorist attack on the homeland a military base no less while he is President.

#2 | Posted by Dalton at 2013-02-12 01:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

That sums it up.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-13 02:34 AM | Reply

Chilling legal memo from Obama DOJ justifies assassination of US citizens

The president's partisan lawyers purport to vest him with the most extreme power a political leader can seize

Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-07 10:32 PM | Reply

#47 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 07:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Gotta go to work. Should I watch my back today, Alex?

#18 | Posted by cookfish at 2013-02-28 07:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

That are you talking about?

#48 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 07:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry, but Woodward is full of it, and afk is practically illiterate.

#13 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-

if you notice...Im literate enough to not have to resort to middle school insults and try and act so smart at the same time..

you can denounce it all you want, but in the grand scheme and big picture, your demeaning don't mean a thing.

#50 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 07:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Digging into one of his famous folders, Woodward said the tirade was followed by a page-long email from the aide, one of the four or five administration officials most closely involved in the fiscal negotiations with the Hill. "I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today," the official typed. "You're focusing on a few specific trees that give a very wrong impression of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to eye here. … I think you will regret staking out that claim."

www.politico.com

Keep in mind that the mentioned half-hour tirade and the email with the thinly-veiled threat [now known to be White House National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling] came as a result of Woodward simply reminding the American public that sequestration was an idea that came from the White House, not from Congress. In fact, the idea was first publicly proposed BY Sperling on 12 July, 2011. The intent was to secure the commitment of both sides to future negotiation by means of an enforcement mechanism that would be unpalatable to Republicans and Democrats alike. President Obama agreed to the plan. House Speaker John Boehner expressed reservations, but also agreed.

It's also important to remember that if the recommendations put forth by the Debt Commission (put together by Obama) had been acted on, we wouldn't even be talking about sequestration.

Last, and I provided this yesterday, is a quick look at 'who is getting screwed' by sequestration....borrowed from charts provided by Steven Rattner on Morning Joe (MSNBC, for you dimwits who don't know): Discretionary spending (DOD and Non-DOD) - 34% of the budget - 82% of the cuts. Entitlements - 45% of the budget - 4% of the cuts.

#52 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2013-02-28 08:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

#23 | POSTED BY ROADRUNNER22

"what would Stalin do?" Great future DNC bumper sticker.

#53 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-28 08:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

Posted this on the other thread on this topic....

Digging into one of his famous folders, Woodward said the tirade was followed by a page-long email from the aide, one of the four or five administration officials most closely involved in the fiscal negotiations with the Hill. "I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today," the official typed. "You're focusing on a few specific trees that give a very wrong impression of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to eye here. … I think you will regret staking out that claim."

www.politico.com

Keep in mind that the mentioned half-hour tirade and the email with the thinly-veiled threat [now known to be White House National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling] came as a result of Woodward simply reminding the American public that sequestration was an idea that came from the White House, not from Congress. In fact, the idea was first publicly proposed BY Sperling on 12 July, 2011. The intent was to secure the commitment of both sides to future negotiation by means of an enforcement mechanism that would be unpalatable to Republicans and Democrats alike. President Obama agreed to the plan. House Speaker John Boehner expressed reservations, but also agreed.

It's also important to remember that if the recommendations put forth by the Debt Commission (put together by Obama) had been acted on, we wouldn't even be talking about sequestration.

Last, and I provided this yesterday, is a quick look at 'who is getting screwed' by sequestration....borrowed from charts provided by Steven Rattner on Morning Joe (MSNBC, for you dimwits who don't know): Discretionary spending (DOD and Non-DOD) - 34% of the budget - 82% of the cuts. Entitlements - 45% of the budget - 4% of the cuts.

#54 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2013-02-28 08:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

What has happened to the Liberals in this country. There was a time when "Question authority" meant something. We have several clear pieces of evidence from credible sources that the white house is browbeating journalists who step out of line. If this happened in a republican administration you know you would all be frothing at the mouth to attack.

White House denies staffer threatened Watergate journalist Woodward

The White House is denying reports an adviser threatened famed Watergate journalist Bob Woodward after the Washington Post reporter challenged President Obama's version of events on the looming sequester.

"Of course no threat was intended," wrote the White House aide. "As Mr. Woodward noted, the email from the aide was sent to apologize for voices being raised in their previous conversation. The note suggested that Mr. Woodward would regret the observation he made regarding the sequester because that observation was inaccurate, nothing more.

Read more: www.foxnews.com

#55 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-28 08:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

All Woodward did was produce facts in this situation. The first time in Obama's storied career that someone of note finally challenged the manipulation, lies and distortions by this administration. When you're constantly given free passes for your past history and verbal excesses and then in some small way are questioned, it has to be a very disconcerting, chaotic, confusing moment in time----I call it the reverse Saul Alinsky half nelson. How do you deal with the same tactics thrown back on you. When you have a pathological WH you go into a Nixonian attack mode. But you better be careful since you're dealing with a figure that is used to it and this time the MSM may not look the other way.

#56 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 08:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

Given the exchange was with Gene Sperling, Woodward has a bit of explaining to do about his hyperbole and interpretation of the "threat." Especially now that the full context of the e-mail is public:

"But I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying saying that Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim. The idea that the sequester was to force both sides to go back to try at a big or grand barain with a mix of entitlements and revenues (even if there were serious disagreements on composition) was part of the DNA of the thing from the start."

To which Woodward responds:

"Gene: You do not ever have to apologize to me. You get wound up because you are making your points and you believe them. This is all part of a serious discussion. I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice. I am listening. I know you lived all this."

Read more: www.politico.com

#57 | Posted by YAV at 2013-02-28 09:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

This claim is completely false. Woodward misrepresented the exchange he had with Gene Sperling. The story has been updated to reflect this fact.

#58 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 09:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think you will regret that, RCADE.

#59 | Posted by cookfish at 2013-02-28 09:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

lets see..

believe one of the most respected journalist in our history or believe the lying skunks in the white house...gee that might take a while..

wrong....

#60 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 09:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think you will regret that, RCADE.

FF.

#61 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 09:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward hasn't been on the right side of much of anything since "deepthroat" and watergate. Bernstein was the brains between the two of them.

#6 | Posted by Alexandrite at

wow...even a LIBERAL like this guy gets EATEN by his own when he DARES to tell the truth about "YO DADDY"....( chris rock reference)...

DAMN this is good LOL

#62 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

believe one of the most respected journalist in our history or believe the lying skunks in the white house...gee that might take a while..

It's hilarious to see you talk that way about a journalist who brought down a Republican president. Talk about a marriage of convenience.

#63 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 10:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

You don't know a thing about me in the 70's. As I have said on dozens of occasions over the years. I was a child of the 60's and fell hook line and sinker for the democrat line of baloney.
WHEN the democrat party CHANGED MOBS, they left me......

THEN when they used that mob to elect jimmah carta'well the transformation was complete..FOR SUre when I started getting a paycheck

#64 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

wow...even a LIBERAL like this guy gets EATEN by his own when he DARES to tell the truth about "YO DADDY"....( chris rock reference)...

DAMN this is good LOL

#62 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:00 AM | Reply

Yes it is. There's nothing like jackasses braying and kicking at each other

#65 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 10:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

but it does seem a little weird doesnt it.lol

the enemy of my enemy is my friend..

#66 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

so tell us ooo great ones..

tell me how THIS isnt true as well.......

newsbusters.org

#67 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward had no credibility with loons when it came to Nixon and Watergate, Reagan and what should've been impeachable offenses. But he starts ankle biting Obama and suddenly he's credible?

"Tote that barge," water carriers, "and lift dat bale."

LOL

#68 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-02-28 10:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

what? she misspoke when she was talking to herself?? haa haaaa haaaaaa

#69 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

no doc..you and the others are just grabbing for ANYTHing to answer.

did the thought cross your mind that MAYBE he was

#70 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

The loons on parade - so much weight to haul, so little time: www.youtube.com

#71 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-02-28 10:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Woodward had no credibility with loons when it came to Nixon and Watergate, Reagan and what should've been impeachable offenses. But he starts ankle biting Obama and suddenly he's credible?"

Isn't that the truth!

#72 | Posted by danni at 2013-02-28 10:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

"one of the most respected journalist in our history"

Not by a lot of folks who actually believe in decent sourcing.

#73 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-02-28 10:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

So did anyone think the white house was going to admit threatening a reporter? They knew exactly what they were doing, just like the release of criminal illegal immigrants that were being held in jail. Oddly enough they started in the state that Obummer has an issue with the governor, Arizona. Obummer says he knew nothing about it, yeah right, he was going to try to punish those that disagree with him. His thug politics are coming back to bite him in the ass. I wonder how the state run media, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and CNN are going to spin this, it should be interesting.

#74 | Posted by gtjr at 2013-02-28 10:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward White House Threat Claim False

Doesn't seem false to me based on the article. The email from the senior WH official says "I think you will regret staking out that claim." I think a reasonable person could perceive that as a threat. To claim the story is unequivocally false is an exaggeration.

#75 | Posted by JOE at 2013-02-28 10:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

you know what guys and girl...

I think you're right... I mean how could we do this...Its not like we've ever seen the LEFT jump on some gop or right winger or.

WHATS THAT??

he did??

HOW MANY GOP talking about ted cruz for example..

,,m,mmmmm

come on...you guys are MASTERS at BAITING the gop on matters like this....(hee heee heee heeee)

#76 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder how the state run media, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and CNN are going to spin this, it should be interesting.

#74 | Posted by gtjr at 2013-02-28 10:17 AM | Reply

They're going to have to do an "eeny, meeny miny moe" on this one. They're in a no win situation.

#77 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 10:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

Who would regret claiming that somebody moved goalposts? Nobody, that's who.

Either it was poorly written, or it was a threat.

Did the Scalia thread get a rewritten headline when the context was applied?

#78 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2013-02-28 10:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder how the state run media, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and CNN are going to spin this, it should be interesting.
#74 | Posted by gtjr

Ask RCADE. Look what he did with the headline and you'll get a taste of what the MSLM (mainstream liberal media) is going to be saying.

#79 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2013-02-28 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

To claim the story is unequivocally false is an exaggeration.

People who think they were just threatened do not write the following words in response: "You do not ever have to apologize to me. ... I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice."

The emails make clear that Sperling and Woodward have a friendly, cordial relationship. If you tell a friend he will regret doing something and he responds that he appreciates your advice, no one would call that a threat.

#80 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

State run media...idiot

#81 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 10:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

Look what he did with the headline ...

What I did with the headline was tell the truth. If you want to be lied to about this story, visit Daily Caller or one of the other sites that never tells right wingers what they don't want to hear.

#82 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 10:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

all you need to do is read the exchange between the two, there was no threat.

#83 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 10:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

Lannie Davis is probably full of it too...

#84 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2013-02-28 10:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

Right, his buddy just thought he'd regret claiming goalposts were moved...because that's a regrettable statement is false, right?

#85 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2013-02-28 10:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

Is should be if.

#86 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2013-02-28 10:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

The emails make clear that Sperling and Woodward have a friendly, cordial relationship. If you tell a friend he will regret doing something and he responds that he appreciates your advice, no one would call that a threat.

#80 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 10:33 AM | Reply

Like e-mails, often voice inflection is lost----is the "regret doing something" a veiled threat. Is the response that he appreciates your advice filled with dripping sarcasm. [...]

#87 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 10:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

RCADE,
You are such an Obama lackey! Your headline says that the Woodward claim is 'false'. You have no such evidence and the HuffPo article doesn't even say that the claim is false. Just that the threat wasn't so threatening.

Language like this coming from the WH is definitely threatening. What would you think if someone from the WH told YOU that you would regret running a news story? You would feel totally threatened.

#89 | Posted by Huguenot at 2013-02-28 10:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe his buddy was giving his a heads up on how petty the Obama admin is?

#90 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2013-02-28 10:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

What I did with the headline was tell the truth.
#82 | POSTED BY RCADE

What you did with the head line is Yellow Journalism which is your right as the owner or the DR but don't think that that makes it the truth only "YOUR" truth.

#91 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-28 10:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

What would you think if someone from the WH told YOU that you would regret running a news story?

If I had a relationship with a White House official like the one expressed in those Sperling-Woodward emails, I would not regard what Sperling said as a threat.

Woodward makes his living cultivating inside sources at places like the White House. He develops friendships and highly cordial relationships with top officials.

He's not an idiot. He knows that wasn't a threat.

#92 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

What you did with the head line is Yellow Journalism which is your right as the owner or the DR but don't think that that makes it the truth only "YOUR" truth.

If the email had revealed a threat, I would have run the story on the front page without hesitation. But Woodward is telling a bald-faced lie, so that's the story.

#93 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 10:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

Like e-mails, often voice inflection is lost----is the "regret doing something" a veiled threat. Is the response that he appreciates your advice filled with dripping sarcasm. [...]

#87 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 10:45 AM | Reply

Rcade, what's with the brackets. I've turned over a new leaf and all my good work has gone to naught.

#94 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 10:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

OK RCADE,
You are calling Woodward a liar. It's up to you to prove it. What's his motivation.

#95 | Posted by Huguenot at 2013-02-28 10:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

If, as you say, he isn't an idiot, then why claim something you deem so easily proven false?

#96 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2013-02-28 10:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

As Left ramps up campaign to discredit him, others proudly #StandWithWoodward

Salon.com ✔ @Salon
"Bob Woodward has lost it, let's all stop indulging him." - @pareene
slnm.us

Steve Weinstein @steveweinstein
Bob Woodward is senile. Or maybe he is encouraging President Obama to break the law so he can be relevant again with an expose.

Josh Greenman @joshgreenman
If Rahm Emanuel were still in the White House, the "threat" would probably be worse than "you will regret this."

twitchy.com

#97 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-28 10:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

#93 | POSTED BY RCADE

A true journalist like Bob Woodward has more to fear from loss of access that any physical threat real or perceived. The White House has a history or keeping the press in line by restricting access. No access no byline, no byline no articles, No articles no job.

#98 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-28 11:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

If, as you say, he isn't an idiot, then why claim something you deem so easily proven false?

You can't think of a way Bob Woodward might gain personally from making this claim?

#99 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 11:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Earlier, I said the Daily Caller was the kind of site that would never tell its readers Woodward was lying about the threat.

I was wrong. It just ran a story titled "Bob Woodward Trolled Us":

dailycaller.com

"Looks like we were played." -- Daily Caller writer Matt K. Lewis

#100 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 11:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

What you did with the head line is Yellow Journalism...
#91 | Posted by paneocon

From you? Seriously? The guy who couldn't admit he invented "armed intruders"? Jeepers!

#101 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-02-28 11:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

You can't think of a way that this could legitimately be a threat? Or at the very least, a heads up from a friend?

To answer your question, of course I can, but if you say, he isn't an idiot, then he must have known context would be applied and he'd be outed, which would ruin his credibility and tarnish his professionalism. Doesn't sound like a smart move to me if you believe he lied.

#102 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2013-02-28 11:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Rcade

[...] Nobody sends something like that out of the white house without it being scrutinized. This regime has scripted EVERYTHING they and their lackies do. Yes this was meant as a threat, if the Bush white house had sent this you would be screaming impeachment. Sorry but there is nowhere to hide on this one, for once why not just suck it up and admit it? [...]

#103 | Posted by gtjr at 2013-02-28 11:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

#100...I think Mr. Woodward has been trolling for decades. He hit it big 40 years ago and has been scrapping for fame ever since.

#104 | Posted by justanoversight at 2013-02-28 11:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

People who think they were just threatened do not write the following words in response: "You do not ever have to apologize to me. ... I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice."

The apology was for raising his voice. Saying "you don't have to apologize for raising your voice" doesn't mean "you didn't threaten me when you later said I would regret this." You're aware that more than one subject can be covered in an email, correct?

#105 | Posted by JOE at 2013-02-28 11:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

To answer your question, of course I can, but if you say, he isn't an idiot, then he must have known context would be applied and he'd be outed, which would ruin his credibility and tarnish his professionalism.

Woodward's been accused of exaggerating and fabricating facts in his writing career. Just because he got some big things right does not mean he's always telling the truth, or that he's incapable of doing something as phony as what he did here.

#106 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 11:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

There must be a disease over at the WH.

dailycaller.com

#107 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 11:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Lots of paranoia spouted around here. Waiting to hear the Black Helicopters are coming.

#108 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 11:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Rarely is the partisan sickness of the Obama-haters so starkly revealed. Woodward lied/exaggerated. Deal with it.

#109 | Posted by moder8 at 2013-02-28 11:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Just because he got some big things right does not mean he's always telling the truth, or that he's incapable of doing something as phony as what he did here. - RCADE

I agree, I have read the situation is false, the question I have is why would Woodward throw it out there like a "threat" when its easily disproven?

I wonder about Woodward and his motivation.

#110 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2013-02-28 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

This WH has hit a new low. The new textbook they're operating from is the Nixonian-Alinsky complete works.

#111 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 11:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

#101 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

Who better to accuse someone of Yellow Journalism than a Yellow poster?

#112 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-28 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

No not paranoia, just mistrust of a white house that finds it appropriate to lie rather than tell the truth especially when they get caught with thier hand in the cookie jar. We have not seen this level of dishonesty since Tricky Dickie Nixon.

#113 | Posted by gtjr at 2013-02-28 11:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward's been accused of exaggerating and fabricating facts in his writing career. Just because he got some big things right does not mean he's always telling the truth, or that he's incapable of doing something as phony as what he did here.

#106 | Posted by rcade

Yeah, all his criticism of W. Bush was spot on. He only started lying on Jan. 20th, 2009.

#114 | Posted by wisgod at 2013-02-28 11:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

Th other question would be why would Lanny Davis now come out of the wood work, and say he was threatened...?
dailycaller.com

#115 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2013-02-28 11:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

So Iran/Contra , invasion of Iraq (WMDs?)..nothing to see there...you glossed over them rather quickly. Short memory there. Unless you're only 12yrs old.

#116 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 11:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

Lesson to all you lefties. If you feel like diverting from the party line be prepared to be run over but the bus you were just riding in.

#117 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-28 11:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

Th other question would be why would Lanny Davis now come out of the wood work, and say he was threatened...?
dailycaller.com

#115 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2013-02-28 11:23 AM | Reply

See #107.

#118 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 11:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

So if I say that Bob Woodward is being obviously disingenuous in describing Sperling's email, will he consider my post a threat?

#119 | Posted by cbob at 2013-02-28 11:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

It will be interesting to see how long the National Barrack Channel and company can hide this story. When you are dishonest and have no integrity it does catch up to you, Obummer is feeling the heat. Perhaps it is time to go to Florida and play golf with Tiger.

#120 | Posted by gtjr at 2013-02-28 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

This is funny. Retort lefties were here back in 2004 defending Dan Rather over his fake National Guard story. Saying he got the story right and so what if the document was forged. Also, if someone has to apologize for yelling at you on the phone earlier I doubt he was yelling what great friends they are.

#121 | Posted by Dalton at 2013-02-28 11:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

This whole Woodward/Davis/WH thing shouldn't surprise anyone. When a POTUS gets a pass for the number of years that this administration has, it really starts to believe their invincibility---especially when you're an arrogant narcissist. You make unilateral moves and think you don't need to work with people and can carte blanche do anything you want even with that pesky constitution in the background. Eventually, the chickens come home to roost---after the MSM gives you that free pass to help you get that second term, they no longer have the usual restrictions to let the attack dogs loose----of course with a demonrat in office they're often chihuahua ankle biters while they reserve the caged pit bulls for the rethugs.

#122 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 11:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

It will be interesting to see how long the National Barrack Channel and company can hide this story. When you are dishonest and have no integrity it does catch up to you, Obummer is feeling the heat. Perhaps it is time to go to Florida and play golf with Tiger.

#120 | Posted by gtjr at 2013-02-28 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

By story, I assume you mean that a journalist is stretching the truth. Interesting, yes, but it doesn't seem like that big a story to me.

#123 | Posted by cbob at 2013-02-28 11:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

Or perhaps NBC will go back and modify the email so it sounds like Woodward is making the threat. I am sure those like Rcade would believe it, after all the news media does not lie, unless it is Fox,lol.

#124 | Posted by gtjr at 2013-02-28 11:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why is anyone surprised by this behavior from the White House? WE elected thugs who did a crappy job, then reelected them. You will obey Emperor Barackus or you will pay the consequences.

The previous 2-term lib president had dead bodies all around him. This is how libs behave. Nothing to see here.

#125 | Posted by justanoversight at 2013-02-28 11:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

The rightwing butthurt is strong on this one. And the fact that they keep insisting despite all evidence to the contrary only makes it funnier.

For you more sane and stable supporters of the GOP, if you wonder why your Party has become so marginalized in the minds of so many Americans, read this thread.

#126 | Posted by moder8 at 2013-02-28 11:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

Absolutely NO version of all this whole thing would cause me to have any doubts. Would a journalist tell a fibber? Hell yes. Would the White House threaten anyone not in lockstep with Barackus Caesar and lie about it? Hell yes. EITHER or BOTH versions are probably correct.

Yawn...Zzzzzz

#127 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-02-28 11:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

The rightwing butthurt is strong on this one.

#126 | Posted by moder8 at 2013-02-28 11:42 AM | Reply

How funny can you get---Woodward did a reverse Saul Alinsky half nelson on the WH and now Lanny Davis piled on their sorry rearends. Talk about "butthurt" and being on the defensive. This is so precious and will continue for awhile with Obama getting some of his own medicine for once. Now all we need is some of the other mute media lefty sharks to become jealous of all the attention Woodward is receiving and begin smelling the blood in the water. That in itself would be the stop to an out of control imperial WH.

#128 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 11:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

#126...Thank you...couldn't have said it better myself.

#129 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 11:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

Moder8

That is funny last time I looked Lanny Davis was one of you. I tend to disagree with your assessment of the republican party as 49% of the people that cast votes voted for the republican, that does not seem to be marginalized. Of course most republicans are not worried about how much they can give away, just being fiscally responsible. Running up trillions of dollars in debt will catch up with us. And as one of your own said " it is unamerican to run up the debt using the Bank of China credit card placing the burden on our children" Senator Barrack Obummer. Seems he is doing a whole lot more of it than Bush did.

#130 | Posted by gtjr at 2013-02-28 11:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah, all his criticism of W. Bush was spot on. He only started lying on Jan. 20th, 2009.

It doesn't sound like you know Woodward's history with Bush very well. They were pretty cozy at times. Woodward thought there were WMDs.

#131 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 11:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

Man, slow news day, huh?

#132 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2013-02-28 12:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

It doesn't sound like you know Woodward's history with Bush very well. They were pretty cozy at times. Woodward thought there were WMDs.

#131 | Posted by rcade

May I suggest reading State of Denial: Bush at War, Part I, II and III

#133 | Posted by wisgod at 2013-02-28 12:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Look. Maybe the exchange got a little heated. I was a reporter once, I know how that can happen. I've been on the other side since then and have gotten into some heated exchanges with reporters. I've also been in business and have had some heated exchanges with business connections. As I'm sure the rest of you have. But read the actual words here.

The email exchange with White House economic adviser Gene Sperling shows him apologizing to Woodward after a verbal disagreement and telling him, "I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim." Woodward responds, "You do not ever have to apologize to me. ... I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice."

Is Woodward responding in a way that suggests he was threatened? Not by any normal standards. If he had been threatened, why didn't he just say, "Don't patronize me, Gene. You threatened me, and now you're making it sound like you're my friend offering advice." ?

#134 | Posted by cbob at 2013-02-28 12:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Woodward did a reverse Saul Alinsky half nelson on the WH and now Lanny Davis piled on their sorry rearends. Talk about "butthurt" and being on the defensive. This is so precious and will continue for awhile with Obama getting some of his own medicine for once."

Woodward and Lanny Davis are actually two liberal "dinosaurs" from the days when liberals became "progressives" from imbibing gallons and gallons of the kool-aid. I have respect for them both.

"Now all we need is some of the other mute media lefty sharks to become jealous of all the attention Woodward is receiving and begin smelling the blood in the water. That in itself would be the stop to an out of control imperial WH."

Now you're dreamin.' Ain't gonna happen. Too many gallons of kool-aid and too many idiots like Bill Maher, Chris Hatthews, and a whole state full of Hollywood basket cases. Work toward the 2014 elections to stop it.

#135 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-02-28 12:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward and Lanny Davis are actually two liberal "dinosaurs" from the days when liberals became "progressives" ...

Just because some liberals started calling themselves progressives does not mean there were ever two distinct groups.

#136 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Woodward thought there were WMDs."

So did about 80% of the world leaders, RCade, including Clinton and the U.S. Congress.

#137 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-02-28 12:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Just because some liberals started calling themselves progressives does not mean there were ever two distinct groups."

Oh, yeah...these modern day "progressives" have no resemblence of a JFK liberal at all. (Shhhhhh...JFK even preferred tax cuts. Anathema to a "progressive! Other differences as well.) They are distinguished from liberals by their new name.

#138 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-02-28 12:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

#137...doesn't friggin matter...there were NO WMD's. It was a lie, plain and simple. 20% didn't buy it...O being one of them. Just because a liberal goes "off the ranch" doesn't mean I have to agree with him. He is wrong on this one.

#139 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 12:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

If he had been threatened, why didn't he just say, "Don't patronize me, Gene. You threatened me, and now you're making it sound like you're my friend offering advice." ?

#134 | Posted by cbob at 2013-02-28 12:04 PM | Reply

Because both have attended Matsop's DR seminar on how do you respond to the obtuse with "play on words".

#140 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 12:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Because both have attended Matsop's DR seminar on how do you respond to the obtuse with "play on words"."

my favorite response to BS before PC used to be, "F-U, strong letter follows!"

#141 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-02-28 12:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

O being one of them. Just because a liberal goes "off the ranch" doesn't mean I have to agree with him.

#139 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 12:22 PM | Reply

Of course you don't: lefty definition of consistency: consistency is being consistent in inconsistency.

Just wait until the black bloc of your party want to be "free at last" and move "off the plantation."

#142 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 12:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, yeah...these modern day "progressives" have no resemblence of a JFK liberal at all.

If JFK was president today you'd like him as much as you like Obama.

#143 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-28 12:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

and go to GOP??????? Really? You're joking, right?

#144 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

"...doesn't friggin matter...there were NO WMD's. It was a lie, plain and simple. 20% didn't buy it."

There WERE WMD's at one point and were used on Saddam's own countrymen. I'm pretty sure that had some effect on the opinions of many.
Accusing so many of "lying" might be more accurate if you just said they were mistaken. You are trying to say all those majority of people knew the truth but purposely said the opposite. I don't think that's the case.

#145 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-02-28 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Actually don't care what you think, it was proven lie. They wanted to go into Iraq before 9/11, and used it as an excuse. Misleading people using false information is lying, is it not?

#146 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 12:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

"If JFK was president today you'd like him as much as you like Obama."

There is no way on this Earth. I voted for JFK and admired him a lot. No way there's an iota of commonality with the two. I don't know where you got that idea.
I also voted for LBJ in '64 and he also didn't compare with JFK and was a major disappointment along with his henceman McNamara.
I liked Ike too and probably would have voted for him but was a little to young in '56. Remember, the voting age was 21 back then.

#147 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-02-28 12:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Actually don't care what you think, it was proven lie. They wanted to go into Iraq before 9/11, and used it as an excuse. Misleading people using false information is lying, is it not?"

Grow up...educate yourself:

www.davidstuff.com

#148 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-02-28 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

DING DING DING DING DING DING

YOU GUYS jump ALL OVER gop people with even a HINT of problems and if that problem oh say...has TWO examples...well for YOU its a done deal.

WELL.......

www.realclearpolitics.com

#155 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 02:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Look what he did with the headline ...

What I did with the headline was tell the truth. If you want to be lied to about this story, visit Daily Caller or one of the other sites that never tells right wingers what they don't want to hear.

#82 | Posted by rcade at 2

now YOU are deciding whats true and whats not...HOWEVER, if you want to alter it from an OFFENSIVE issue to defending a white house thats clearly lying and using deceit and fraud and now EVEN The idea of strong arm GOON like CHICAGO tactics...I have no problem with it and since I believe the original headline was mine, so no one else should either.

AND once you start defending these people from Woodward, I guess the attacks will SOON start against LANNY Davis.

and just remember when the 2nd accuser came out against any gop candidate, that meant the accusation was FACTUAL AND TRUE AND A DONE Deal

well ??????????????????????????

#156 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 02:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

The rightwing butthurt is strong on this one. And the fact that they keep insisting despite all evidence to the contrary only makes it funnier.

For you more sane and stable supporters of the GOP, if you wonder why your Party has become so marginalized in the minds of so many Americans, read this thread.

#126 | Posted by moder8 at 201
accusations now up to TWO and they are a leading member of the liberal loving democrat party and a leading liberal journalist.

I guess if I posted the thread where RACHEL MADDOW ADMITTED To doctoring the clip make mccain out to be an AWFUL person...you wouldnt believe that either???????????

#157 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 02:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

But McCain is an awful person.

#158 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 02:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good lord, Afka. What the hell are you babbling about? Really ever, but particularly now. It's like trying to read Russian.

#163 | Posted by cbob at 2013-02-28 02:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hey, Brightboy..you mentioned something about "RACHEL MADDOW ADMITTED To doctoring the clip make mccain out to be an AWFUL person". You remember McCain lecturing an Aurora shooting victims' mother? Yes, that AWFUL person, one and the same.

#164 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 02:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

so even though the woman herself admitted to doctoring it, that doesnt matter to you?

really?

would you mind explaining that please sir..

#165 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 02:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

notmsnmoney.proboards.com

#166 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 02:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

and look, its simple

as a letter to the editor in USA today said..

this issue isn't about MONEY or helping people..

its about POWER...and MONEY IS POWER..

obumma doesnt give a rats rear about all he says he does..ITS POWER AND CONTROL...........

#168 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 03:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

and WOODWARD stands in the way of THAT POWER...just like lannt davis, he WILL BE REMOVED as a legitimate voice in ANYTHING having to do with this...

#169 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 03:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

regardless of the edited video, McCain still came off as insensitive. You paranoid too? I bet you think the Black Helicopters are coming. Keep spinning this Woodward story however you wish, no one cares about it. Except you and you're friend in his mothers basement.

#170 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 03:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obummer could have a problem with this one, he is attacking one of thier own. If the lame left wing media starts to smell blood in the water you never know. Nixon and his team threatened Woodward also, it did not get them very far though.

The fact that rather than trying to come to solution he is out campaigning tells you that he is trying to distance himself from his sequester idea. In fact in Nov 2011 Obummer said that if the congress tried to modify the sequester he would veto it. I think Obummer and his left wing democratic friends are worried that the cuts will not end our world and he and the rest of the left wing idiots in D.C. will be proven wrong. That we can cut spending and the world does no tend.

Wooodward does give him a nice deversion though.

#172 | Posted by gtjr at 2013-02-28 04:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Interesting....

Erick Erickson ✔ @EWErickson

Ok wow. Finally read the email to Woodward. I must now move to the "not a threat" camp.
3:12 PM - 28 Feb 13

#173 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-02-28 04:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh my oh MY....the wingnuts done spun clean offa da bolt over this one...

So let me get this straight; Woodward says "no need to apologize" and the wingnuts think this means Da Prez is sending a drone after him?

....nuckin' futz!

#174 | Posted by 1EyedMan at 2013-02-28 05:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

""Looks like we were played," The Daily Caller's Matt Lewis wrote"

Aren't they always?

#180 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2013-02-28 05:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fake news stories run all the time on Fox and Drudge, so I'm not surprised. My favourite is where they use 'unnamed sources' to say something really stupid, like the DOJ is covering up defence technology transfers to China, when even a casual read of the article shows it to be total BS.

But the low-information crowd loves it, because it makes them angry and scared, and that's how the Republican brains work.

#181 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2013-02-28 05:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

But the low-information crowd loves it, because it makes them angry and scared, and that's how the Republican brains work.

Posted by HeliumRat at 2013-02-28 05:40 PM | Reply

The worst part is: NO matter how many times/ways we prove this story false, the rightnuts here are going to keep repeating it for the next ten years.

#182 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 05:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

So, I guess Sean and Bob will be reduced to singing Show Tunes tonight, eh?

#183 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-28 05:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hannity could try and sell him wigs.

#184 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 05:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com

#185 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-28 05:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

"So, Mr Woodward, how long have you and Gene Sperling been dating?"

"You are going to regret ever saying that, Hannity!"

#186 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-28 05:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

obumma doesnt give a rats rear about all he says he does..ITS POWER AND CONTROL...........

#168 | Posted by afkabl2

uh huh... and in 3 years he will be a regular private citizen just like you and me.

well, maybe not just like you.

#187 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-28 05:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you guys think this is going to slow Hannity down well you don't know Hannity. I'm conservative and I can't tolerate him.

#188 | Posted by Dalton at 2013-02-28 05:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hey to Drew in Jersey! Howzit hanging my brotherman!!!! Not fair that you are having all the fun funkin' wit da goonsquad...

...when are you gonna get off John McCain's lawn, ya gab-dumn namby pamby pinko commie whippersnapper!? He's justa straight talkin' man!!!!

#189 | Posted by 1EyedMan at 2013-02-28 06:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

That new headline sure makes a lot of folks that commented here look, well, crazy.

#190 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-28 06:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Looks like we were played," The Daily Caller's Matt Lewis wrote Thursday morning.

Maybe, just maybe, if you had had enough integrity and decency to not think Obama is the anti-Christ and therefore gave him at least a shred of the benefit of the doubt, you wouldn't have egg all over your face.

The eagerness to destroy the other side is disturbing but even when things like this come up it doesn't make anyone actually think about it.

#191 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-28 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

funnie i don't hear anyone here wondering how much of the nixon deal was made up ---people don't wake up and just start talking out of their butts
and this is not the first time he has made questional statements it is the first time he made them against a liberal

#192 | Posted by lastomykind at 2013-02-28 07:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

.... Others Threatened by the Obama White House!

**** "A day after Woodward's claim that a senior White House official had told him he would "regret" writing a column criticizing President Obama's stance on the sequester, Lanny Davis, a longtime close advisor to President Bill Clinton, told WMAL's Mornings on the Mall Thursday he had received similar threats for newspaper columns he had written about Obama in the Washington Times.

Davis told WMAL that his editor, John Solomon, "received a phone call from a senior Obama White House official who didn't like some of my columns, even though I'm a supporter of Obama. I couldn't imagine why this call was made." Davis says the Obama aide told Solomon, "that if he continued to run my columns, he would lose, or his reporters would lose their White House credentials."

from WMAL.Com

#194 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2013-02-28 08:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

That new headline sure makes a lot of folks that commented here look, well, crazy.

#190 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2013-02-28 06:35 PM

I would say that it looks like the site owner got a call from a White House aid but we know that he didn't need to get a call from anyone in order to defend this administration.

#196 | Posted by T_Man at 2013-02-28 08:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

have you apologist and lackies seen some of the tweets now coming from the OBAMA HIT SQUAD ?

one from FRUME....calls Woodward..'senile'

ABSOLUTE PROOF that woodward is RIGHT ON...

#198 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 08:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

bumma doesnt give a rats rear about all he says he does..ITS POWER AND CONTROL...........

#168 | Posted by afkabl2

uh huh... and in 3 years he will be a regular private citizen just like you and me.

well, maybe not just like you.

#187 | Posted by donnerboy

ah nice....about time I got in this 'discussion'..hee hee

but you see in about 3 years I"Ll be in medicare and im

GONNA BLEED YOU SUCKERS DRY.....there wont be enough money left for you to have a hernia exam..

hee heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

#199 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 08:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward actually came out an in his own words said that he didn't use the word threat but when someone in that position in the White House administrations says that you'll regret taking a position on an issue against the current administration, it should be taken seriously.

#201 | Posted by T_Man at 2013-02-28 09:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

perhaps a bigger threat to the 4th estate is that if they do this to a 50 year or whatever veteran who has done what he has..what does this say to the young ones starting out..

I"ll tell you..it says to them..DO NOT STRAY FROM the white house line....AND the media is on its way to being little more than PRAVDA

#202 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 09:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is amazing. Just when the left had Republicans in the circular firing squad, their media lap dogs start to cannibalize one another. They are even taking sides!
I think Woodward's ego was miffed by the e-mails. After all, HE dropped Nixon, right? (Actually the people feeding him selective info did that, but we are talking about a Washington journalist)
It was a dopey thing to say to a print heavyweight, nonetheless. A tempest in a highball glass.

#203 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-28 10:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

According to Woodward, he had a long phone call from an Obama staffer who was screaming at him. Then later he received a contrite email, which was released to the public. Liberals see the email and say, see? No threats here!

I wonder what was said on the phone call. I also wonder if Woody taped it. Wouldn't that be something?

Who cares. Obama [...] squaring off against iconic libbies from the seventies. Just get out some popcorn and enjoy.

#204 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-28 10:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

and HOW ABOUT THAT david pffffluuuf and his tweets..

low class worthless gofer...

#205 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

sure ALEX....whateva..

you da man

yada yada yada..

same ole same ole

#206 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

HEY UGO.

best way Ive read it put...

YOU da man !!!

#207 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-28 10:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

That new headline sure makes a lot of folks that commented here look, well, crazy.

#190 | Posted by donnerboy

It doesn't take a headline to do that. Guys like matsy and Aflac do that every post, every day.

####
Just when the left had Republicans in the circular firing squad, their media lap dogs start to cannibalize one another.

You seem to have missed the part where the rightwing moonbat media reported it and righties went [...] over it and now are eating crow. All the left is doing is supplying them with Bushmasters. The only downside is history has shown the right couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with an MX missile.

#208 | Posted by northguy3 at 2013-02-28 11:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Poor Bob Woodward, trying so hard to peddle his book, falling into the trap of attempting to play the martyr, and finding himself surrounded by erstwhile (albeit clumsy) champions from the riiight who haven't trusted him since Watergate and never believed her really managed to wring a deathbed confession out of Bill Casey.

#212 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-03-01 06:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

her really managed - he really managed

#213 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-03-01 07:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

He was on Morning Joe this morning, he looked sort of foolish trying to pretend he had been threatened while admitting that no one threatened him at the same time.

#214 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-01 07:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post"

Why yes.. yes it is and yes it did. It moved them so far out that the Republicans wet themselves watching the anointed one trying desperately to convince the low information voters that the sequestration wasn't his fault.

A gross miscalculation on the part of this regime to assume the Republicans would cave in (and allow the middle class to be taxed more) by clipping 2% of budget projections over 10 years.

Speaking of budgets.. um.. when was the last time this regime produced an annual budget?

When you live pay check to pay check and spend more than you take in..

#215 | Posted by SamSpade at 2013-03-01 09:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Speaking of budgets.. um.. when was the last time this regime produced an annual budget?"

Why waste the effort when they know that the Tea [...] in the House will never pass it?

#216 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-01 09:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

And for the pièce de résistance, Woodward goes on Faux News (of all the choices) to defend himself.

Jon Stewart destroyed him last night.

#217 | Posted by fresno500 at 2013-03-01 09:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

#216 @danni

Really? No really.. seriously.. really..

Perhaps they should provide an annual budget for just one simple reason.. it's the law. United States federal budget

It's a neat way to fund up appropriations, FEMA, wars, unemployment, etc etc etc

#218 | Posted by SamSpade at 2013-03-01 09:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Woodward certainly must have hit a nerve, as he's being pummeled by the usual suspects

And rightly so! Have you read the emails? Nothing threatening there. If fact, I heard earlier that even Woodward is beginning to back track.

However, one of the more interesting aspects of this story is how Limbaugh handled it yesterday. He started off talking about the threat and indicating that he had read the email exchange. He ADMITTED that he didn't think there was anything to Woodward's claim but proceeded to condemn the POTUS and Whitehouse for threatening Woodward!

For those listeners that didn't catch Limbaugh's intro, they would think that Limbaugh was being sincere in his criticism of the POTUS and Whitehouse.

#219 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2013-03-01 09:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

As usual the left attacks the messenger, and ignore the message. [...]

#220 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2013-03-01 09:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

"It's a neat way to fund up appropriations, FEMA, wars, unemployment, etc etc etc"

Apparently you are unaware of the fact that the Bush administration never put the wars in the budgets they proposed, didn't include them in the deficits either. At least Obama doesn't pretend the cost for them is nonexistent.

#221 | Posted by danni at 2013-03-01 10:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Why waste the effort when they know that the Tea Baggers in the House will never pass it?"

Damn, I'm shocked...when did all those democrats join the Tea Party, danni?

"Already, Obama's $3.6 trillion tax and spending plan for fiscal year 2013 was defeated in the House by a vote of 414-0 on March 28. Last year, the Senate defeated Obama's fiscal year 2012 plan by a vote of 97-0."

cnsnews.com

#222 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-03-01 10:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Jest when are going to wake up to partisan Hachette d dribble? She predicted that Obama was going to be a deficit hawk...and that by the end of his first term he'd really put the stop to gov spending. She liked to use the term "paygo".

Now she just ignores spending, and pretend she never said what she said. Coming Grimm a party who has not passed a budget in 4 years? A bunch of liars whose words a merely political, and are hollow of all truth.

#223 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2013-03-01 10:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Have you read the emails? Nothing threatening there."

Woodward stated that there was thirty minutes of Sperling shouting at him on the phone prior to that email. He may have apologized for the shouting, but ended up with the, "I think you will regret staking out that claim," statement. After the phone call, I'd kinda take that as threatening too. I know you don't, but then, no self-respecting "progressive" in the tank for Barackus Caesar WOULD admit it was threatening.

There's an old saw that says if a man calls you a jackass, ignore him. If more than one starts calling you a jackass, you might wanna go shop for a saddle.

"Washington Times columnist and Democratic insider Lanny Davis tells WMAL-AM that his editor, John Solomon, "received a phone call from a senior Obama White House official who didn't like some of my columns, even though I'm a supporter of Obama. I couldn't imagine why this call was made." Davis says the Obama aide told Solomon, "that if he continued to run my columns, he would lose, or his reporters would lose their White House credentials."

www.realclearpolitics.com

#224 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-03-01 10:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

wow...that was SOME "threat."
Ohhh...chill bumps.
Not.

#225 | Posted by e1g1 at 2013-03-01 11:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

#221 @danni

The defense budgets during those years were adequately reconciled for the ensuing annual budget for all to ponder.

Your claim that wars were never put into the budget enforces the long-held far-left's belief.. and honestly.. it is just a wishful myth.

Fact-Checking AP 'Fact Checker' Woodward: Bush Did Not 'Keep the Cost of Wars Out of Budgets'

#226 | Posted by SamSpade at 2013-03-01 11:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Speaking of budgets.. um.. when was the last time this regime produced an annual budget?"

Why waste the effort when they know that the Tea Baggers in the House will never pass it?

#216 | Posted by danni

oh sweety,,,,when you stop insulting people's parents and grandparents and wifes lovers and husband with that silly and stupid BAGGER GARBAGE...IT so DEMEANS anything you might say....but you just have to keep it to make you feel better...well go ahead I guess...

to your REAL comment.........dozens of bills passed by the house including TWO to prevent this sequester DIED in the democrat senate.. WHEN will good people like you drop the porn reference and at least acknowledge that the house has done something whether you like them or not,,,

#227 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-03-01 02:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

What surprises me about this most is the way the media has turned so visciously against Woodward who happens to be one of their own and an icon to boot.

You can make the argument that Woodward made the email sound worse than it was - to me the email came off as something like:

"You have your facts wrong and as a journalist you'll regret making that mistake."

When I read the email in its entirety it didn't come off as particularly threatening. Having said that, what Lanny Davis and Fournier at National Journal revealed defintely was threatening.

Obama better be careful. If he keeps bullying the media they might feel sufficiently snubbed to actually begin being slightly critical of his decisions, words and actions. I think being shut out of another Tiger Woods golf outing could be the final straw.

#228 | Posted by JeffJ at 2013-03-01 04:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

The evilness of this administration is finally being uncovered. Just think how this guy would perform if he was put under any kind of scrutiny like past presidents and held responsible/accountable.

#229 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-01 05:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

POS WH-

They don't rule us. They work for us! Our rights don't come from them. Our freedom is GUARANTEED by the U.S. Constitution and NON-NEGOTIABLE!

#230 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2013-03-01 05:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

"They don't rule us. They work for us! Our rights don't come from them. Our freedom is GUARANTEED by the U.S. Constitution and NON-NEGOTIABLE!"

From an NRA email I just got:
They don't rule us. They work for us! Our rights don't come from them. Our Second Amendment freedom is GUARANTEED by the U.S. Constitution and NON-NEGOTIABLE!

You really should credit Wayne LaPierre when you quote him.

#231 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2013-03-01 05:09 PM | Reply | Flag:


"They don't rule us. They work for us! Our rights don't come from them. Our freedom is GUARANTEED by the U.S. Constitution and NON-NEGOTIABLE!"

From an NRA email I just got:
They don't rule us. They work for us! Our rights don't come from them. Our Second Amendment freedom is GUARANTEED by the U.S. Constitution and NON-NEGOTIABLE!

You really should credit Wayne LaPierre when you quote him.

#231 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2013-03-01 05:09 PM


Absolutely correct.

Here is an example of attribution:

Nobody knew that "hope and change" meant Obama's hope for $50 million in change.

#41 | Posted by nullifidian

"Hope and change" translated: The tax-payer hopes they have a little change left in their pocket after Obama taxes all of it an re-distributes it.

Full disclosure: That is not mine. I borrowed it from Kid Rock - he did a hilarious skit with Sean Penn during the waning days of the campaign and that's when he used the phrase.

Posted by JeffJ at 2013-02-28 09:18 AM | Reply


#232 | Posted by JeffJ at 2013-03-01 05:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

They don't rule us. They work for us! Our rights don't come from them. Our freedom is GUARANTEED by the U.S. Constitution and NON-NEGOTIABLE!

#230 | Posted by Greatamerican

So... do you still think that a black man only counts as 3/5 of a person?

Seems we renegotiated that.

#233 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-03-01 08:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

I know you don't, but then, no self-respecting "progressive" in the tank for Barackus Caesar WOULD admit it was threatening.

As the rest of my post pointed out, Rush Limbaugh, the leader of the republican party and ardent conservative, didn't agree with Woodward's claim yet went on to disparage the POTUS because of it.

#234 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2013-03-01 09:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

We still debating this? I came in to see if this was still..something. And it appears it is. I'm speechless....without speech

#235 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-03-01 10:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm speechless....without speech

#235 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-03-01 10:44 PM | Reply

Do us a favor----go postless.

#236 | Posted by matsop at 2013-03-01 10:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yet you responded to my ..post...so who is the idiot here?
..hahahahahahahahahahahahahaah

#237 | Posted by drewinnj at 2013-03-01 10:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

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