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Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Birmingham, Alabama is considered by many to be the birthplace of the civil rights movement. Today, African-Americans in Birmingham benefit from a numerical majority in the population, corresponding majorities in government jobs, and political control of the city. But civil rights won't address what ails the city now.

Birmingham is recognized as one of the most violent and poorly-run cities in the nation. The city runs a massive deficit, and is county seat of Jefferson County, which recently cut a deal with a European bank as part of the largest government bankruptcy in U.S. history.

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UGB, the problem was not the Civil Rights movement.
The problem was the federal courts that decided they had the power to force their interpretation of racial balance among public schools.
It essentially came down to ethnic cleansing of cities....commonly known as "white flight" as if to make whites to blame. A city becomes a ghetto (in both the Jewish and Black senses of the word) when all others are encouraged to leave.

#1 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-27 12:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'd be curious to see what a new CCC could do for Birmingham.

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2013-02-27 12:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think the rest of America benefited from the Civil Rights Act more than African-Americans did, Tor.,

#3 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-27 12:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe Diablo but a new Civilian Conservation Corps would provide every able bodied young man with an improved chance of escaping poverty.

Picture drug dealer running out of customers, streets without gangs in them, and people at last feeling that if you're an able bodied young man and not working you're not worthy of their time.

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2013-02-27 12:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

The problem was the federal courts that decided they had the power to force their interpretation of racial balance among public schools.

The rhetorical spin doesn't match reality. See, equal protection.

#5 | Posted by et_al at 2013-02-27 01:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

Et Al, equal protection has become a hiding place for ideology, usually left wing.
Is any definition in a law a denial of equal protection? If you think of the left wing view, the law can not make a distinction for any citizen that does not include all citizens! It's absurd.

#6 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-27 01:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Maybe Diablo but a new Civilian Conservation Corps would provide every able bodied young man with an improved chance of escaping poverty."

But the military and Peace Corps do that already. Ask Colin Powell.

#7 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-27 01:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

#6 | Posted by Diablo

Let's see? The school on that side of the tracks get 20% of the local school board budget. The school on this side of the tracks get 80%.

Equal protection under the law? Hiding place for ideology?

#8 | Posted by et_al at 2013-02-27 01:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

Try the same logic this way, Et Al, and I am not being snarky:
A city was racially mixed once, then the courts came in and it was turned almost totally into a one-race city. (Detroit, Gary Indiana, Newark NJ ad infinity)
If it were a reverse of color, what would you call that? If a city were mixed racially one year and totally white the next due to court decisions, what would that be called if not ethnic cleansing and bigotry?
Again, with emphasis, it was not the Civil Rights Act or movement that caused this atrocity. It was courts assuming they had the power to legislate. The courts decided correctly the money spent and quality of education had to be equal withing a school district. They over reacted when they applied the same logic to racial 'balance' which is nothing more than court sanctioned segregation when applied.

#9 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-27 02:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

the military also put people in harms way in distant lands.

And the Peace Corps doesn't hire enough people let alone have them work here at home.

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2013-02-27 02:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

#9 | Posted by Diablo
If it were a reverse of color, what would you call that?

I don't know because I am not aware of "the courts" turning any city into a one race city. Help me out with citations (notice plural) to what the courts did.

They [the courts] over reacted when they applied the same logic to racial 'balance' which is nothing more than court sanctioned segregation when applied.

I don't know how you get "balance" equals segregation. Again, help me out.

#11 | Posted by et_al at 2013-02-27 02:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

Have to agree with Tor - the military is not a refuge for out of work teens, and should not be, ever. Take it from a veteran. And the Peace Corp pays something like $150 a month, plus food and lodging.

#12 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2013-02-27 02:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

'I don't know because I am not aware of 'the courts' turning any city into a one race city.'

I mentioned citations, Et Al, and add that the courts believed truly they were doing good: Newark, NJ, Gary, IN, Detroit and many others.
The federal courts decided that within a school district (meaning within a city in urban cases) racial balance among the schools was the only legal option. Hence they ordered students to be bussed among individual schools in any district to achieve the same racial balance in every school within a school district.
The whites moved out of cities in the 60's and 70's because of that. Suburban housing values skyrocketed because of "white flight" and guess where the judges lived? (Hint: not in the cities). They made a fortune enforcing 'rights.'
Just Google "white flight" and keep an open mind.

#13 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-27 03:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Bussed" meaning bused.

#14 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-27 03:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

...the courts came in and it was turned almost totally into a one-race[sic] city.

You have offered no citation to court ordered one race cities. No court ordered a one race city.

Courts ordered equality of education. 80/20 was not. Busing was one form of remedy. "White flight" was a reaction not a court remedy.

#15 | Posted by et_al at 2013-02-27 03:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

White folks moved because they didn't want black people living next door to them. When real estate discrimination became illegal it started white flight, it also motivated the big push for school vouchers so that white people could send their kids to private school at public expense where they wouldn't have black children sitting next to their lilly white little angels. Many cities did have blacks and whites but they weren't living in the same neighborhoods. When that changed the whites fled to the suburbs. Some cities are seeing a return of whites today as gentrification is done, which causes a new set of problems.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2013-02-27 12:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

#16 Only a few kinds of people would use the phrase "lilly[sic] white little angels".

None with good intentions.

#17 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2013-02-27 01:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Have to agree with Tor - the military is not a refuge for out of work teens, and should not be, ever. Take it from a veteran. And the Peace Corp pays something like $150 a month, plus food and lodging."

We send near kids to do nation building over seas.

Why don't we give actual kids a chance to do it here at home?

#18 | Posted by Tor at 2013-02-27 05:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Can anyone say Detroit the second.

#19 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-27 08:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

when white flight occurs, so goes the wealth.

#20 | Posted by ichiro at 2013-02-28 10:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

UBD, do you live there? if not, move there.

#21 | Posted by ichiro at 2013-02-28 10:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah. I want to be surrounded by stupid people, and worry about having my stuff stolen all the time.

#22 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-28 10:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

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