Also, Zed, has it ever occurred to you your hero is up to his eye-balls in this sequester and is talking a good game but doesn't have a problem with it?

#21 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 09:08 AM | Reply

If the Sequester were not dangerous, then no one would view it as a bargaining chip. "Your side" has been notoriously doing exactly that

It's fasicinating to me, and I mean that sincerely, that the Republican Party seems to have decided that the economy of the United States of America is nothing more than something you can count coup on.

That is, you guys have convinced yourself, ONCE AGAIN, that the future has to enroll exactly the way you've imagined it would unroll. I've been watching you do this for years, starting with Iraq War II. Let's include the late presidential election.

I want you GOP fellows to think hard, at least this once, about what might happen if you are just dead wrong.

And Zed what will you do if we're "dead right"-----how about an admission that your POTUS is a con.

#32 | Posted by matsop at 2013

You see, that's the thing. If you're right, then not much happens at all. No one much gets hurt, save for the president, who becomes somewhat politically embarrassed.

Its interesting to me that you don't see the asymetry to the two possible outcomes: disaster versus a week or so of GOP crowing.

This can get interesting: If Obama knows there's little or nothing to the Sequester, and knows that the GOP knows that there's little nothing to the Sequester, then there was never any incentive for him to play a game of Chicken with the GOP at all.

So, you're going to have to assert that Obama is an irrational actor in this case, who just risks political capital "because". I think there is an irrational actor in this game, but that its not him.

----the sequester won't make much of an impact at all.

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Well, speaking as a citizen, that would be good news. Given a Sequester appears inevitable.

I'm thinking you never understood most of my points. No one wants to play a game they can't win. If all the GOP needed to do in this case was call Obama's "bluff", if it were always just as easy as that to make Obama lose, and Obama knew that (which you guys are asserting), then why play the game at all?

I suppose he's (Obama) trying desperately to make the GOP look bad, with the help of the state run MSM, in hope that the next elections will fill the house with a majority of his 'elite'.

36 | Posted by SamSpade at 2013

You don't understand, either. Obama can't possibly make the GOP "look bad" unless he's dead right. If he's right, then the GOP gets nothing more than what its worked to have---Contempt.

Unfrock the Chicago thug.

#42 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-28 10:37

So "unfrocking a thug" is what you think you're doing here? Damn, then I guess its wonderful he's making it so easy for you.

The political right is unobservant, paranoid, and self-congratulatorily stupid.

Point I was trying to make is that most of what I've heard from the POTUS, the MSM, and the man child Carney has been nothing more that doom and gloom - a consorted effort to pass blame upon the GOP and others.

#45 | Posted by SamSpade at 2013

I understood your point. My point was that if things get bad because of the Sequester, and Florida Governor Scott is among those who think so, there will be no need for a "concerted effort to pass blame upon the GOP". Citizens will spontaneously gather in front of Republican Representative offices aremed with tar and feathers.

You Republicans better sure as hell hope that nothing really bad happens because of the Sequester. You'd better hope that it all turns out like the Mayan Apocalypse: a big dud.

Because if the meteor hits people are going to be looking to blame someone. And people already dislike your Party for pulling some of the same little tricks within recent memory.

Um Zed, the right is paranoid??? You must have missed all of Owebama's speech's for the last month.

#44 | Posted by fishpaw at

Yes, the Right is paranoid. You people are virtually snakeeaters at this point, one notch below barking mad.

You Democrats better hope none of those released illegal immigrants doesn't go all Willie Horton on some poor person.

#51 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-28 04

One might. That's the sort of result you get when you think you have no alternative but to burn down the house, and then act that way.

Republicans have been aching for a shut-down (or better yet, a wounding) of government for at least the last year. If this thing actually happens, most people are going to know who to blame, not that there won't be copious amounts of anger to go around.

No one thinks you're heroes, only yourselves. In your own minds your fighting the ugly giant Obama. Most of the rest of us see Obama as just another person and see you fellows as crazier than sacks of roaches.

That's less than one week's pay for those useless morons.

#58 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-28 08:18 PMFlag: (Choose)
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Therefore so much less money to give to your business. Or maybe you think that they just ate the money, rather than spent it on people like you.