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Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Obamacare will increase the long-term federal deficit by $6.2 trillion, according to a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report released today.

Senator Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), who requested the report, revealed the findings this morning at a Senate Budget Committee hearing. The report, he said, "confirms everything critics and Republicans were saying about the faults of this bill," and "dramatically proves that the promises made assuring the nation that the largest new entitlement program in history would not add one dime to the deficit were false."

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Obamacare is the worst piece of legislation and it was passed in the worst possible way.

#1 | Posted by Huguenot at 2013-02-26 12:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

It really says that over 75 years it would grow the deficit if all of the cost containing mechanisms in the bill are eliminated. This is a dishonest thread, Jeff Sessions is a dishonest Senator. He should be censured for making such a dishonest representation of what the GAO actually said.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2013-02-26 12:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Senator Jeff Sessions needs to heed his own words

"America --- Love it or Leave it"

#3 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2013-02-26 12:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

The death panels better get busy.

#4 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-26 12:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

#2 If the bill is enacted exactly as intended. Of course there have already been changes to the bill, programs dropped due to lack of funding, increased expenses, and changes that need to be made to the bill.

This is a quagmire of uncertainty. It was foolish to claim it would not impact the deficit in a negative way.

#5 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2013-02-26 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

-It really says that over 75 years it would grow the deficit if all of the cost containing mechanisms in the bill are eliminated.

I see the National Review is trying to compete for spin with the rest of the rwing Echo Chamber.

Maybe they aspire to become Hot Air or the Blaze or Breitbart.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-26 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

It was foolish to claim it would not impact the deficit in a negative way.

#5 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2013-02-26 12:56 PM

Only demonrats/lefties weren't fooled.

#7 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-26 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Deficits don't matter

Conservative Over-Lord, Dick Cheney

In 2002, Vice-President Dick Cheney and the Bush administration's economic team met to discuss a second round of tax cuts, which would follow Bush's 2001 cuts. At the meeting, "then-Treasury Secretary Paul H. O'Neill pleaded that the government -- already running a $158 billion deficit -- was careening toward a fiscal crisis." Cheney replied by saying that "deficits don't matter."

#8 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2013-02-26 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Every CBO or GAO report that comes out is only as good as the question that was asked and the conditions it contained. It also appears that each side is willing to turn a blind eye to the crappy questions THEIR side asks but equally willing to poke holes in the crappy question the OTHER side is asking.

#9 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2013-02-26 01:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Any Democrat with a ounce of brains should be pushing away from this nightmare. This one bill will result in the Democratic party being relegated to insignificance as a failed socialist experiment. Democrats will be lucky to not be beaten in the streets.

#10 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-26 01:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Democrats will be lucky to not be beaten in the streets.

#10 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-26 01:18 PM | Reply

I can see it now. They'll be walking the streets with elephants on their shirts or the masochistic ones with arrows(kick me here) pointing to their sorry rearends.

#11 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-26 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

The GAO Report is linked in the article but for some reason you can't copy and paste any of it but go to it and read what it says. It makes a mockery of Session's dishonest claim.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2013-02-26 04:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Effect on Long-Term Federal Budget Outlook Largely Depends on Whether Cost Containment Sustained

Our long-term federal budget simulations have shown federal debt as a
share of gross domestic product (GDP) continuously increasing over the
long term, which indicates that the budget is on an unsustainable path.

Our fiscal simulations and projections by the Congressional Budget Office
(CBO) and others have shown that the key drivers of the federal
government's long-term fiscal imbalance on the spending side are rising
health care costs and the aging of the population.

Even assuming 0 percent excess cost growth after 2022, debt held by the
public rises steeply in the Alternative simulation, reaching more than 100
percent of GDP (or the size of the total economy) by 2025, and continuing
to grow at a rapid rate thereafter. This demonstrates that significant policy
changes beyond those designed to control health care cost growth would
need to be taken in the near term to put federal debt on a more
sustainable path.

www.gao.gov

Looks like we could use a few more Senators like Jeff Sessions who is willing to ask the questions Democrats don't want to know the answers to.

#13 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-26 05:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Pan - looks to me they are suggesting universal health care. That is how insurance pools work. Size does matter when controlling costs.

I also recently read that to reduce medicare cost the age upon entry should be lowered not raised. It would capture people at a vulnerable age and increase the size of the pool. And with insurance size matters.

#14 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2013-02-26 05:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Pan - looks to me they are suggesting universal health care. That is how insurance pools work. Size does matter when controlling costs.
#14 | POSTED BY PROLIX247

Medicare and medicaid are pools of considerable size and I don't see any cost containment there? No one doubts this is designed to end in single payer and that will increase medical inflation like all government subsidized programs.

it would capture people at a vulnerable age and increase the size of the pool. And with insurance size matters.
#14 | POSTED BY PROLIX247

We already gave that one away by letting them stay on their parents policy till they are 26 and making the insurance companies pick up the tab.

#15 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-26 05:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Paneo uses Alabama math, no matter how you massage it, it never adds up (like codger sessions). And has obviously never paid a premium in his miserable life.
Cause if he had ----- he would know who is actually getting stiffed with the bill (of the uninsured)

#16 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2013-02-26 06:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

#16 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

What are you babbling about? CHIEF thinks it's free if he doesn't pay for it.

#17 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-26 08:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Screw those numbers, here's whats wrong with obamcare according to danni.!!

My kind" will continue to support the President in his efforts to bend the cost curve while your kind demonizes him for trying. Meanwhile, they guys you vote for will continue to try and preserve the status quo which is failing. "Your kind" are the enablers of the corporatists who are profiting on the suffering of millions but hey they really do appreciate your support

Get it? R's are just obstructing this great Law. Somehow those 2100 pages weren't thorough enough, us damn R's are just getting in the way. You can tell their next push is anti capitalist. The profit motive will be next attack point.

Tell us danni, how's it going to 'work' when 'your kind' outlaw profits?

#18 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2013-02-27 07:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Our fiscal simulations and projections by the Congressional Budget Office
(CBO) and others have shown that the key drivers of the federal
government's long-term fiscal imbalance on the spending side are rising
health care costs and the aging of the population."

Which is exactly why Obama proposed health care reform and exactly what Obamacare is intended to address.

"Tell us danni, how's it going to 'work' when 'your kind' outlaw profits?"

On things like healthcare and prisons...it will work much better. There is no "market" for healthcare, it's a basic need, it shouldn't be a profit center for billionaires.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2013-02-27 08:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

#19

Haha figured from the anti capitalist! Got news for you danni, the world doesn't work with out the profit motive.

Why don't you quote some useful web sites/authors which validate how well economic models work when you strip out profits!!!!

#20 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2013-02-27 08:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's so priceless. People need

Food
Clothing
Shelter
Jobs
Money
Transportation
Energy
Health
Legal Representation

Why should anybody be allowed to profit at your expense?

Why don't you just admit it. You hate capitalism and all things for profit. You are a socialist/communist.

Oh and you want somebody else to pay your taxes :-)

#21 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2013-02-27 08:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

Which is exactly why Obama proposed health care reform and exactly what Obamacare is intended to address.

Healthcare Costs Continue to Rise
Posted on:January 10, 2013
www.bridgehealthmedical.com

U.S. HEALTH CARE COSTS
Health expenditures in the United States neared $2.6 trillion in 2010, over ten times the $256 billion spent in 1980. [1] The rate of growth in recent years has slowed relative to the late 1990s and early 2000s, but is still expected to grow faster than national income over the foreseeable future.[2] Addressing this growing burden continues to be a major policy priority. F

www.kaiseredu.org

James DeGerome: Health care costs continue to spiral
ACA taxes on medical supplies and pharmaceuticals add markedly to consumer cost. Also, consider that the "individual mandate" in Massachusetts (an integral part of ACA) has led to massive health care overutilization and concomitant cost increase.
articles.sun-sentinel.com

How's that lowering Health care cost thing working for you?

#22 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-27 08:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obamacare is the worst piece of legislation and it was passed in the worst possible way.

And at the worst possible time -- in the middle of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Obama moved into a house that was on fire, and he decides to remodel the kitchen instead of putting the fire out.

What an idiot he is. No wonder libs love him so.

#23 | Posted by goatman at 2013-02-27 08:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

^
LOL, spot on.

#24 | Posted by Huguenot at 2013-02-27 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

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