Mojo: 10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down

Monday, February 25, 2013

Dave Gilson, Mother Jones: By cutting off federal funding for research and stymieing data collection and sharing, the National Rifle Association has tried to do to the study of gun violence what climate deniers have done to the science of global warming. No wonder: When it comes to hard numbers, some of the gun lobby's favorite arguments are full of holes.

Posted by fribo at 08:59 AM | 25 COMMENTS | permalink | Comment on This Entry |

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From the article:

Myth #3: An armed society is a polite society. Fact-check: Drivers who carry guns are 44% more likely than unarmed drivers to make obscene gestures at other motorists, and 77% more likely to follow them aggressively.
* Among Texans convicted of serious crimes, those with concealed-handgun licenses were sentenced for threatening someone with a firearm 4.8 times more than those without.
In states with Stand Your Ground and other laws making it easier to shoot in self-defense, those policies have been linked to a 7 to 10% increase in homicides.

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I think they need to change their "fact check" in every section to read "cherry picked fact check".

Article sucks.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-24 04:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ouch.

Below the belt LOL

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-24 06:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Did some one say belt?

#6 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2013-02-24 06:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nobody would expect anything more from you, Matsop; not an iota, jot or tittle.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-02-25 05:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

Gun control is how Israel ensures the Palestinians in the West Bank are suitably oppressed and can't do anything about the non-stop flow of religious fanatic settlers.

Strange how times change.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2013-02-25 09:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry but the medical doctors at the CDC have no business studying guns because they are anti-gun and were caught creating biased studies.

When you see a study that tells doctors when someone gets shot with an assault riffle you must cut out everything that touched the bullet creating huge scares under a theory that the bullet contains some kind of poison. Yet the truth is these guns are just hunting riffles with different stocks. Even army doctors treating machine gun wounds would not do what this study said to do. When you see these kinds of fraudulent studies that say a gun is more likely to be use to hurt you that an intruder yet millions of guns are in homes and its clear this study was untrue.

Anti-Gun doctors have no business studding violence and guns. Thats why it has been banned because they got caught doing false fake studies.

When it comes to hard numbers gun control is failing to stop gun crimes in every city or state its been tried in.

We are told that oil companies should not study global warming. But its some how OK for anti-gun doctors at the CDC to study something they know nothing about GUN violence? This is nonsense.

#11 | Posted by tmaster at 2013-02-25 09:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

Absolutely! Only varmint hunters armed with artillery should be studying gunshot wounds.

And butchers, don't forget the butchers, because they know varmint flesh like nobody else knows varmint flesh.

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-02-25 11:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

#44 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

The same kind of stupid hyperbole described in the article.

#13 | Posted by et_al at 2013-02-25 12:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good article. Unbiased. Factual. Well reasoned. And, judging from the comments on this thread, successfully trolls every gun nut on this site. Well done Fribo.

#14 | Posted by moder8 at 2013-02-25 12:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

The same kind of stupid hyperbole described in the article.
#45 | Posted by et_al

Well, obviously.

#15 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-02-25 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Another liberal propaganda piece full of lies. The article gets shredded in the comments. Read them.

#16 | Posted by Pontius at 2013-02-25 02:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Libs are so scared of guns. Their obsession with guns borders on the pathological. I know...I'm being redundant.

#17 | Posted by justanoversight at 2013-02-25 02:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Myth #1: They're coming for your guns.

#1 | Posted by paneocon

Myth #2: Guns don't kill people -- people kill people.

#2 | Posted by paneocon

You can't actualy believe that, can you? You could NOT be that (bleep) stupid, could you?

#18 | Posted by Sniper at 2013-02-25 05:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm sorry pan, you set me off and I responded before I read what you said.

#19 | Posted by Sniper at 2013-02-25 05:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

You either have me confused with another poster or you're just straight out lying.

#24 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

No dok, we all have you figured out.

#20 | Posted by Sniper at 2013-02-25 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Hitler gun control lie
www.salon.com

ir.lawnet.fordham.edu

#21 | Posted by fribo at 2013-02-25 05:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good article. Unbiased. Factual. Well reasoned. And, judging from the comments on this thread, successfully trolls every gun nut on this site. Well done Fribo.

#46 | POSTED BY MODER8

What are not good, unbiased or factual are your posts and your handle. Love your standard lib tactic of labeling every gun owner on the DR as a NUT. But that's about the only thing you worthless libs can do is label and inveigle.

#22 | Posted by justanoversight at 2013-02-25 07:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

.... The Only "Reliable,Trustworthy Media" is...CIA Infiltrated?

**** What conscientious and irrefutably honest SOCIAL AUTHORITY in America should Gun Owners "surrender" their weapons to...the Religious Leaders or the Politicians? This is something extremely important but nevertheless Mother Jones overlooked and ignored it and the question is why? Mother Jones should admit that in an underhanded fashion its really "Endorsing & Pimping" for Big Brother!

#23 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2013-02-25 09:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Read the article before posting BS.

Myth #1: They're coming for your guns.
Fact-check: No one knows the exact number of guns in America, but it's clear there's no practical way to round them all up (never mind that no one in Washington is proposing this). Yet if you fantasize about rifle-toting citizens facing down the government, you'll rest easy knowing that America's roughly 80 million gun owners already have the feds and cops outgunned by a factor of around 79 to 1.

#24 | Posted by fribo at 2013-02-25 10:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Right out of the box this entire article is [...] because it was on Mother Jones website. This is like Goebbels putting out an article called The 10 Myths about the Final Solution.

#25 | Posted by bph320 at 2013-02-26 10:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

#54 It is judgmental, discriminatory, and ignorant.

#26 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2013-02-26 12:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Myth #2: Guns don't kill people -- people kill people.

When guns start aiming themselves I'll pay attention to this argument.

#2 | Posted by paneocon

you better start paying attention.

www.youtube.com

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-26 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

#59 | Posted by donnerboy

That's not quite it, but it is being worked on; Autonomous Weapons

#28 | Posted by et_al at 2013-02-26 09:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

#59 | Posted by donnerboy

I'm glad you see the holes in this article too.

#29 | Posted by RonPaul at 2013-02-26 11:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

#54 | POSTED BY JUSTANOVERSIGHT

Basic logic: "all grey cats" does not mean "all cats are grey"

#30 | Posted by fribo at 2013-02-27 02:58 AM | Reply | Flag: