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The legislation would provide mandatory spending reductions in order to replace automatic cuts to discretionary spending (primarily from defense accounts) in 2013 under the Budget Control Act and to reduce the deficit. The savings generated from these reforms to mandatory programs would first be used to offset the approximately $78 billion cost of replacing the automatic across-the-board discretionary spending cuts that are scheduled to occur on January 2, 2013, under what is known as sequestration. The amount of $78 billion reflects the remainder of the FY 2013 discretionary sequester after accounting for lowering the FY 2013 discretionary cap from $1.047 to $1.028 as provided for in the House-approved Budget Resolution. The additional savings achieved through reconciliation beyond the $78 billion (over $180 billion in the next ten years) would further reduce the deficit

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also PASSED but DYING in the senate with NO DEBATE was house bill 6884 which would have done the same..

so ANYONE repeating the nonsense that the gop has done nothing needs the good old lye soap wash...

#1 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-22 07:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

ANYONE repeating the nonsense that the gop has done nothing needs the good old lye soap wash...
#1 | POSTED BY AFKABL2 AT 2013-02-22 07:33 PM | REPLY

Why? Its the truth. The GOTP has done nothing. Deflecting to the Senate doesn't change that.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2013-02-22 07:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

In recent years Senate Republicans have used the filibuster to block over 380 bills and nominations.

So...I wouldn't say they did nothing. They have actively used the filibuster as an obstruction tool to prevent any meaningful progress.

As for your bill:

You've got to be kidding...Did you read it?

You don't have to look far to see why it died on the vine.

Repealing mandatory funding to states to establish American Health Benefit Exchanges:

The Reconciliation bill would strike the unlimited direct appropriation provided through the government takeover of health care for grants to states to facilitate the purchase of qualified health plans in newly created exchanges and rescind any unobligated funds. According to CBO, this provision would save $14.5 billion over ten years. Similar legislation (H.R. 1213) was approved in the House on May 3, 2011, by a vote of 238-183.

REPEALING PREVENTION AND PUBLIC HEALTH FUND: The Reconciliation bill would terminate the "Prevention and Public Health Fund" created by the Democrats' government takeover of health care. According to CBO, this provision would save $11.9 billion over ten years.

Repeal of Medicaid and CHIP maintenance of effort requirements under PPACA: Under the Democrats' government takeover of health care, states are required to maintain eligibility and enrollment policies for Medicaid or CHIP as a condition of receiving federal funding for Medicaid. States cannot change income eligibility levels or implement new enrollment policies than were in effect as of March 23, 2010. This makes it more difficult for states to implement program integrity measures. The Reconciliation package removes this restriction, saving $600 million over ten years.

And there was much much more.

And then there was this:

RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTIONS: The Reconciliation package would increase pension contributions by 5 percent of salary over five years for current federal employees.

That looks like a 5% pay cut to federal employees to me for no additional retirement benefits. WTF is wrong with you people?

And you gotta LOVE the embedded propagandist statement the Democrats' government takeover of health care

That must be in there 20 times.

Repeating this lie over and over will not make it true.

The "government" has not taken over health care.

Health insurance will still be provided has it always has been by private industry....unfortunately.

But, regardless, the Democrats are not going to stand by and allow the Republicans to gut the Affordable Care Act.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-22 08:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

both of you are rattling on about little to do with the point..dems could have at least talked about the HOUSE PASSED ANTI SEQUSTEr BILL but chose to ignore it knowing that the media would just throw this out as well as posters on some political blog have done and i'm sure we will see more because THIS TAKES THE issue of the democrat FALSE attack that the gop has done nothing.,.

AND PLEASE show me the PRESIDENT"S IDEAS>......oh wait....there is none

#4 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-22 09:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

It is important to keep this situation in perspective. On top of this, the President was dishonest in his portrayal of the origination and his approval of the sequester, as you can see here:

www.washingtonpost.com

What we have are two dishonest groups of individuals (republicans and democrats) trying to negotiate with another dishonest individual (Obama) in order to avoid this sequester which most all of them supported and the president actually proposed. If you don't vote differently in the next election, you have received your just "rewards".

#5 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2013-02-22 09:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

I hope the cuts come. In fact, they should be about ten-times more than the agreed upon (as in, Obama agreed to them and now pretends he is against them as do the military Republicans).
This government needs to be dismantled down to its bare bones, if only for the sake of freedom.

#6 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-22 10:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

This government needs to be dismantled down to its bare bones, if only for the sake of freedom.

#6 | Posted by Diablo at 2013

We'll put you in the Burn It All Down column. If it all burns down, we'll see how much you personally have left, including freedom.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2013-02-22 10:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

even so..DIABLO.... perhaps in the midst of all the whining and lying from the white house...don't forget we're talking about

ONE HALF OF ONE PER CENT of spending cuts....2 cents on the dollar and nothing to do with medicare, SS or medicaid....

'let it ride'

#8 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-22 11:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Right, AFK!

Zed, did I post we should burn it all down? No.

#9 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-23 02:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

"If it all burns down, we'll see how much you personally have left, including freedom."

I guess Zed thinks our freedom comes from the government, not despite it.

#10 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-23 02:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

I guess Zed thinks our freedom comes from the government, not despite it.

I'm guessing Zed thinks your life will in no way resemble what it does now if a Repub euphoria should come to pass.

And not in a positive way.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-23 02:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

On topic, if I'm reading this right it's basically a bill to rescind Repubs previous spending cut promises by shifting them away from their golden calf, defense spending.

You righties are pathetic. The GOP has been pushing massive spending cuts as a budgetary "fix" in lieu of a more responsible spending cut plus tax increase plan.

Yet spending cuts effecting the defense department are solely Obama's fault.

Morons like you will wonder up until the very last second of circling the drain how and why reality seems to be moving in such a weird, circular sort of fashion.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-23 02:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

They're not even cuts. Just slower increases. They shouldn't do anything to stop them. In Obamaville, this is all we can hope for.

#13 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-23 03:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

So you agree the job loss talk is just grandstanding then?

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-23 03:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

and isnt it a rollback to amounts from a year or so ago......

again...

LET IT RIDE

#16 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2013-02-23 04:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Here's how Boehner sold this in 2011.

www.thedailybeast.com

#17 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2013-02-23 10:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

"We'll put you in the Burn It All Down column" - Zed

Don't forget Nulli, that knucklehead is an anarchist!

#18 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2013-02-23 11:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The GOP has been pushing massive spending cuts as a budgetary "fix" in lieu of a more responsible spending cut plus tax increase plan." - JPW

Moving the goal posts...

So when the president asks that a substitute for the sequester include not just spending cuts but also new revenue, he is moving the goal posts. His call for a balanced approach is reasonable, and he makes a strong case that those in the top income brackets could and should pay more. But that was not the deal he made. - Woodward
www.washingtonpost.com

#19 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2013-02-23 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

Don't forget Nulli, that knucklehead is an anarchist!

#18 | Posted by AndreaMackris

No I'm not, Mack. I'm an ecoterrorist. Seen any Monsanto billboards lately? I have some gasoline.

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-23 11:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I'm an ecoterrorist. Seen any Monsanto billboards lately? I have some gasoline."

See Doc_Sarvis...he's the resident expert on burning down billboards.

#21 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2013-02-23 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Moving the goal posts...

Not at all, it's seeing the forest and not the trees.

FTA

"It's a little more complicated than that," Lew responded, "and even in his account, it was a little more complicated than that. We were in a negotiation where the failure would have meant the default of the government of the United States."

"Budget cliff" negotiations last year were as ridiculous as they were due to Repub insistence on cuts without tax increases. Did you sleep through last summer?

And now the Repubs want to play games by being literal by using Obama's compromise against him when it was exactly what they wanted until it passed, then they reneged.

The repubs are masters of pushing ideology over reality and ignoring or shifting the blame when their ideology creates an ugly reality.

Sorry, but the Repubs ultimately own the negative effects of spending cuts. Period.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-23 12:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

The repubs are masters of pushing ideology over reality and ignoring or shifting the blame when their ideology creates an ugly reality.

Yes they are. However, so are the Dems.

Sorry, but the Repubs ultimately own the negative effects of spending cuts. Period.

The negative effects will be minimal and both parties will own it. Obama pushed the idea, the Repubs in the House accepted it and drafted a bill. The Senate (controlled by Dems) agreed. Obama signed it into law.

As for those so-called "cuts". The department of transportation would see a 1.4% "cut" (although they would still have MORE money to spend than they did in 2012, nearly $Billion more) and somehow that cut is going to utterly ruin air travel, according to Obama. It's absurd.

An economy can't run on debt forever. The longer we drag this debt-escalation on the more damaging it will be down the road.

#23 | Posted by JeffJ at 2013-02-23 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

" The department of transportation would see a 1.4% "cut" (although they would still have MORE money to spend than they did in 2012, nearly $Billion more) and somehow that cut is going to utterly ruin air travel, according to Obama. It's absurd."

It is absurd. Maybe they can stop spending money on boondoggles like bullet trains, which might have been a good, affordable idea, 30 years ago.

#24 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-23 01:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

AND PLEASE show me the PRESIDENT"S IDEAS>......oh wait....there is none

#4 | Posted by afkabl2

Seriously Babbles? Did you even try typing White House Sequester Plan into google? You are hopeless.

You do know how to use the google right?
No? Let me help...

lmgtfy.com

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-23 05:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

I guess Zed thinks our freedom comes from the government, not despite it.

#10 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-23 02:03 AM |

1. If our freedom doesn't come from our government---what do our soldiers fight for?

2. Would you be more free with anarchy---zero government?

#26 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2013-02-23 05:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

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