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Thursday, February 21, 2013

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Hello!?! Is this thing on?

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2013-02-21 12:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm working on site improvements today, so there may be some glitches.

#3 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-21 12:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yesterday (on the Nooner) someone put a link to the closing of the border ritual that happens everyday at India-Pak border crossing.

That was basically from the Indian side. Here are two from my side.

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youtu.be

(Pak soldier kicks Indian in the face and India loses control of his bladder)
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youtu.be

(best video of ceremony)

#5 | Posted by Rigel at 2013-02-21 12:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm working on site improvements today, so there may be some glitches.

#3 | Posted by rcade

So Corky might claim he hates Obama?

#6 | Posted by wisgod at 2013-02-21 12:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Then later that day, free Bath House tours..

tv.yahoo.com

#9 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2013-02-21 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

So Corky might claim he hates Obama?

Yes. If that happens or Zatoichi says he'd rather live in Juarez than El Paso, something has gone terribly wrong in the code.

#10 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-21 12:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Disregard this post... I am standing awkwardly in a room full of strangers pretending to text to avoid eye contact and random small talk. Just play along.

#11 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2013-02-21 12:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

There is 1 annoying mosquito in my house.....I have 50 bullets.
Let's dance!

-Zatoichi

#12 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2013-02-21 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Lee, I think I see you. Are you the one wearing the "I'm with Stupid" T-shirt furiously pushing buttons on a cell phone?

#13 | Posted by moder8 at 2013-02-21 01:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

There is 1 annoying mosquito in my house.....I have 50 bullets.
Let's dance!

-Zatoichi

#12 | Posted by lee_the_agent

I picture him standing at the top of the Balcony like Tony Montana, introducing the bug to his little friend.

#14 | Posted by wisgod at 2013-02-21 01:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

AT4
en.wikipedia.org

#15 | Posted by madscientist at 2013-02-21 01:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ya'all are made of Teflon I tell you. I would have has several dumps for personal attacks on fellow posters! :o)

#16 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2013-02-21 01:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've gotten 3 deletes in the last 24 hours.

The reasons:

Keep it PG rated

Responding to a deleted comment

Moderation complaints in email only

The point is Gracie, aint none of us got teflon. Rightwingers just incorrectly assume that liberals get a free pass.

#17 | Posted by moder8 at 2013-02-21 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

#13 Thats your client.

#18 | Posted by fishpaw at 2013-02-21 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Can I cuss again yet?

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-21 01:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

#19 Not yet.

#20 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2013-02-21 01:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

#19 Sure, go ahead but make sure it is 3 times

#21 | Posted by fishpaw at 2013-02-21 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Gas jumped to $3.89 a gallon overnight. Do I blame GWB for this?

#22 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2013-02-21 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes. Blame GWB. But for his insane elective war against Iraq gas would stil be $2 a gallon. :)

#23 | Posted by moder8 at 2013-02-21 01:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

The point is Gracie, aint none of us got teflon.
#17 | Posted by moder8

Speak for yourself, piddle pants. My moderation page looks like one of Obama's Sunday go to meeting suits.....empty.

#24 | Posted by wisgod at 2013-02-21 01:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

I blame the idiot in the White House. He has no justifable energy policy. When is it ever going to stop?? Piss off the oil companies and this is what happens.

#25 | Posted by Warlock66 at 2013-02-21 01:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

AFKBL2,,,

OOOps ,,,

I thought it was DAMN FUNNY,,,

If I am ever in your neck of the woods the BEER is on me bro,,,

RIDICULAS is all I can say,,,

Hasta L ,,,

#26 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2013-02-21 01:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Gas prices are high because the enviromentalists want us to ride our bikes to work during the blizzards that are caused by global warming.

#27 | Posted by fishpaw at 2013-02-21 01:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

ATAXPAYER: I had not thought about it like that, but you make a lots of sense--------------DUMB ME

#28 | Posted by Warlock66 at 2013-02-21 02:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry, FISHPAW. I haven't got this system figured out yet.

When you are here the Jack Daniels is on me. If you are from Tennessee you have to maintain a bottle in the trunk of your cars at all times-for identification. (And the THP will have a sdhot with you.) LOL

#29 | Posted by Warlock66 at 2013-02-21 02:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

- something has gone terribly wrong in the code.

If Nulli posts his genuine admiration of the LAPD and it's Leader, Barack Obama.

(can't delete that one 'cause you started it, Rogers ;0)

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-21 02:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

I blame the idiot in the White House. He has no justifable energy policy. When is it ever going to stop?? Piss off the oil companies and this is what happens.

#25 | Posted by Warlock66

When exactly was the last "justifable energy policy" in America?

Obama has proposed an aggressive energy policy reform, including the need for a reduction of CO2 emissions, with a cap and trade program, which could help encourage more clean renewable, sustainable energy development.

When will Congress act upon it?

www.whitehouse.gov

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-21 02:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

When the greed, recklessness and illegal behavior on Wall Street drove this country into the worst recession since the 1930s, the largest financial institutions in the United States took every advantage of being American. In 2008, Congress approved a $700 billion gift to Wall Street. A further $16 trillion was provided by the Fed.

Just two years later, as soon as these giant financial institutions started making record-breaking profits again, they suddenly lost their love for their native country. At a time of mounting deficits, of their creation, the major financial institutions did everything they could to avoid paying American taxes by establishing shell corporations in the Cayman Islands and other tax havens.

In 2010, Bank of America set up more than 200 subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands (corporate tax rate of 0%) to dodge U.S. taxes. It worked. Not only did BofA pay nothing in federal income taxes, it received a rebate from the IRS worth $1.9 billion that year. JP Morgan Chase operated 83 subsidiaries incorporated in offshore tax havens to avoid paying some $4.9 billion in U.S. taxes. Goldman Sachs operated 39 subsidiaries in offshore tax havens to avoid an estimated $3.3 billion in U.S. taxes. Citigroup has paid no federal income taxes for the last four years after receiving a total of $2.5 trillion in financial assistance from the Federal Reserve during the financial crisis.

Wall Street banks and large companies love America when they need corporate welfare. But when it comes to paying American taxes or American wages, they want nothing to do with this country. Offshore tax abuse is not limited to Wall Street. Every year corporations and the wealthy are avoiding more than $100 billion in U.S. taxes by sheltering their income offshore.

Pharmaceutical companies like Eli Lilly and Pfizer have fought to make it illegal for the American people to buy cheaper prescription drugs from Canada and Europe. During tax season, however, they shift drug patents and profits to the Netherlands and other offshore tax havens to dodge U.S. taxes.

Apple wants all of the advantages of being an American company, but it doesn't want to pay American taxes or wages. It creates the iPad, iPhone, iPod and iTunes in the United States, but manufactures most of its products in China so it doesn't have to pay American wages. Then it shifts most of its profits to Ireland, Luxembourg, the British Virgin Islands and other tax havens to avoid paying U.S. taxes. Without such maneuvers, Apple's US tax bill would have been $2.4 billion higher in 2011.

Offshore tax schemes are so absurd that one five-story office building in the Cayman Islands is now the "home" to more than 18,000 corporations.

Today, companies are using these same tax schemes to lower their tax bills by shipping American jobs and factories abroad. More than 5 million U.S. manufacturing jobs were lost and more than 56,000 factories were shuttered since 2000. That also has got to change.

At a time when we have a $16.5 trillion national debt; at a time when roughly one-quarter of the largest corporations in America are paying no federal income taxes; and at a time when corporate profits are at an all-time high, it is past time for Wall Street and corporate America to pay their fair share.

That's what the Corporate Tax Dodging Prevention Act (S.250) that I have introduced with Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., is all about.

SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS

#32 | Posted by nutcase at 2013-02-21 03:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Go Bernie!

I think I'll change my registration to Independent Socialist.

Although I think that is a hanging offense in Naples.

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-21 03:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Gas prices are high because the enviromentalists want us to ride our bikes to work during the blizzards that are caused by global warming.

#27 | Posted by fishpaw

In some insane way that makes sense.

#34 | Posted by Sniper at 2013-02-21 03:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama has proposed an aggressive energy policy reform, including the need for a reduction of CO2 emissions, with a cap and trade program, which could help encourage more clean renewable, sustainable energy development.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy

After the taxpayers have paid the green energy business just about a trillion dollars in the last 4 years, I think I'll call bull[...] on your statement. All the companies the taxpayers help, none are in business today. little o just paid his political debts with that money.

#35 | Posted by Sniper at 2013-02-21 03:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Testing, testing.

#36 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-21 04:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

After the taxpayers have paid the green energy business just about a trillion dollars in the last 4 years, I think I'll call bull[...] on your statement.

of course, you would.

How many trillions of dollars and thousands of lives have we spent to protect the flow of oil?

And you forgot to mention Solyndra Solyndra Solyndra.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-21 06:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

#37 That reads like Marsha, Marsha, Marsha..........

#38 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2013-02-21 06:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

How come alakblab hasn't put up the obligatory 2 silly threads with misleading headlines yet?

#39 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-02-21 07:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

#1 If we had the new Mod policy I would make a comment that made me LOL. But not here, nope.

#40 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2013-02-21 07:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder if Socialist Bernie will vote to confirm Jack Lew at Treasury. He had investments in the Cayman Islands, and worked at Citigroup. Earned over a million bucks for just a couple of weeks' work.

Sure he will. He throws out the bone to get the Facebook and blog crowd excited, then goes right back to being part of the problem he pretends to care about.

#41 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-21 07:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where the heck is Dixie Notch?

#42 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2013-02-21 07:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Suspended.

#43 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-21 08:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

#1 If we had the new Mod policy I would make a comment that made me LOL. But not here, nope.

#40 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2013-02-21 07:29 PM | Reply |

Do we have a new Mod policy coming and will it come in time to save me?

#44 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-21 08:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Do we have a new Mod policy coming..."

Nope.

#45 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-02-21 08:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

#44 Maybe and Dixie Notch has met bail according to the comment page.

#46 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2013-02-21 08:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Do we have a new Mod policy coming and will it come in time to save me?"

No, but there really ought to be a private thread for suspended posters and post-moderation refugees only. It would probably get more traffic than the rest of the retort some days.

#47 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-21 08:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wow. Now there's an idea.

#48 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-21 08:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, but there really ought to be a private thread for suspended posters and post-moderation refugees only. It would probably get more traffic than the rest of the retort some days.

#47 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-21 08:17 PM | Reply |

I also agree---the only problem would be that it would get so much traffic that the lefties would feel left out and demand that Rcade treat them just like the banished truth-seeking conservatives.

#49 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-21 08:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

truth-seeking conservatives.

#49 | Posted by matsop

when I was a kid I enjoyed reading about mystical creatures, and fantasy stories, not so much now.

#50 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2013-02-21 09:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

ruth-seeking conservatives.

#49 | Posted by matsop

when I was a kid I enjoyed reading about mystical creatures, and fantasy stories, not so much now.

#50 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2013-02-21 09:13 PM | Reply |

You're still a kid that lives in neverland.

#51 | Posted by matsop at 2013-02-21 09:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Putting "Cracked" or "Onion" or "Satire" in a headline is like putting the punchline ahead of the joke. Just sayin'.

#52 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2013-02-21 09:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Just sayin'."

I suspect rcade does that when he moves a thread to the front page to show he didn't fall for it like the OP or responders did on the back page.

#53 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-02-21 10:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where the heck is Dixie Notch?

#42 | Posted by gracieamazed

New Hampshire--;o)

#54 | Posted by MURPHY at 2013-02-21 10:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Where the heck is Dixie Notch?"

Using Notepad to compose the 300 posts he will spam the nooner with tomorrow.

#55 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-02-21 11:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dixie Normous?

#56 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-21 11:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do we have a new Mod policy coming and will it come in time to save me?
#44 | Posted by matsop

Despite your earlier - obnoxious and deleted - assertion Rogers was about to pull the sky down on you, here, of course, you still remain.

Such a diva!

#57 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2013-02-22 06:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

#57 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

And yet we all live to continue bickering like little girls for another day, I have to sometimes wonder if that's good for any of us?

#58 | Posted by paneocon at 2013-02-22 07:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Smiths--Some Girls Are Bigger than Others
www.youtube.com

#59 | Posted by madscientist at 2013-02-22 08:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I suspect rcade does that when he moves a thread to the front page to show he didn't fall for it like the OP or responders did on the back page."

Well that takes all the fun out of reading the article or the thread now, doesn't it? When the article is b.s. the fact that is presented as real and that some might take it as such is the only thing that makes reading the thread not a waste of time. Having a warning in the headline is like telling the reader to skip the thread altogether. So many threads are skip-worthy as it is. I see no reason to increase that number.

#60 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2013-02-22 09:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

Putting "Cracked" or "Onion" or "Satire" in a headline is like putting the punchline ahead of the joke. Just sayin'.

Cracked isn't always satire. That link about poor people is political commentary.

I don't want people posting fake news here without letting people know it's satire. If the only thing that makes a fake news story worth reading is the fact it tricks people, it's not a good link. The Onion is often entertaining when you know it's a gag.

#61 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-22 10:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Rcade, you gotta be kidding, right? I could make a very big argument that most of the 'accepted news sources are conjured truth, half-truth, and outright lies of ommission or commission. I understand your point, but please understand mine - anyone fooled by over the top satire is not someone that can make thoughtful observations on real news stories.

#62 | Posted by kudzu at 2013-02-22 10:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

"anyone fooled by over the top satire is not someone that can make thoughtful observations on real news stories."

I always thought it was a good way to out those people who were willing, even eager, to believe any amount of b.s., no matter how ridiculous, because it conformed to what they already believed. The stories that I am most suspicious of are those that appeal to my biases and prejudices. That is sadly an uncommon trait around here.

#63 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2013-02-22 11:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

Most fake news that isn't coming from The Onion is complete crap. The jokes aren't funny. The points are ham-handed. After letting that be posted here for years, I decided enough was enough. Satire must be labeled in a way that makes it clear the story is fake.

#64 | Posted by rcade at 2013-02-22 11:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

Most of the fake news around here comes from Breitbart et al.

#65 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-22 11:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ahhh. The old FoxNews/MSNBC conundrum. Should we broadcast news or should we pretend to broadcast news but really just broadcast what is most entertaining to our audience?

#66 | Posted by moder8 at 2013-02-22 11:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

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