"But you're right, the U.S. will be last Empire to ever rule the earth and no one will ever challenge us. To point out the obvious, we will be the first Empire to accomplish this in ALL OF RECORDED history..."
I never said any of that. I said we shouldn't sell ourselves out to China. And your using the threat of Chinese military action as a reason to support the US selling itself out is craven and silly. In reality, there is no reason for the US to act against its own interests.
You keep attacking new strawmen and moving the goalposts because you've dug a hole and lack the sense to stop digging.
#121 | POSTED BY SULLY AT 2013-02-22 02:27 PM | FLAG:
You solution - erect tariffs
Their response - erect tariffs on the things that they purchase from us and jack up the price of things that we want, like rare earth for example.
Then we erect more tariffs on other goods, manipulate our currency more etc.
Their response - similar to the first time.
We decide to purchase goods from India, or whoever is next in line, as far as cheap labour. So, we pay more for our goods than when we bought them from China, but less then it would cost to produce in America. Same problem.
So, we keep doing this until it we've alienated all of the other nations who don't pay their workers the same as we pay our over-paid low-skill labour jobs.
All the while, we end up paying a lot more for our goods, but it all "stays in the US", is that right? We'll just close off our borders until it's beneficial for us?
All the while, China's economy takes a huge hit, since we won't trade with them. What do you think they're going to do? Just sit there and say, "oh well, it was fun while it lasted", while their society starts to crumble? No, they'll take retaliatory measures, much like Japan did in WW2 when we imposed stiff economic sanctions on them and tried to strangle their economy.
So, basically, you want everyone in the world to pay more for everything, so that we can keep over-paid, low-skill labour jobs here and can continue to support our over indulgent lifestyle?
In reality, everything doesn't happen in a vacuum and actions have consequences. Like you said, the US has no reason to act against it's own interest. Well, I gotta tell you, China doesn't have a reason to act against theirs either, but, obviously, not everyone's interests align.
What do you expect to happen if the US erected tariffs on such goods coming from China or ANY OTHER NATION where labour is cheaper than ours, which you advocated for? They'll simply raise minimum wage to whatever ours is? HA HA Seriously, what do you think would happen? Nothing at all, something?
