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Tuesday, February 19, 2013

At least 19 people were injured when a gas line in Kansas City, Missouri, exploded and ignited a three-alarm fire, officials said Tuesday night.
"There was significant damage, and there are initial reports of injuries," said James Garrett, a spokesman for the Kansas City Fire Department. He said there were no fatalities at the scene.
The explosion apparently leveled JJ's restaurant, a popular spot in Country Club Plaza, an upscale shopping district and residential neighborhood that is a regional gathering place.
Mayor Sly James said the walls of the structure had collapsed. He said he had two concerns, the first was for the victims.

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I was reading there are many cities/towns throughout the U.S. that put off for a number of months the repairing of minor natural gas leaks in underground pipes. The gas companies rate the reported leaks from urgent to "it can wait awhile."

Why is it with so many men now out of work and needing jobs is our infrastructure in this nation on par with a lot of third world countries -- crumbling bridges, pitted highways, pot holes, etc. No excuse for it.

#1 | Posted by CalifChris at 2013-02-19 09:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

when the market decides its a good time to fix the gas lines they will be fixed. get with the program lib/commie/nazi

#2 | Posted by badgerwest at 2013-02-19 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Chris,

That is not how it is here.

A gas line with any detectable leak is shut down and red flagged. I would guess this was a sudden rupture not a slow neglected leak. Granted that is a guess, but I do have years of experience with gas lines and a license to work on gas appliances so it's not a completely uneducated guess.

#3 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2013-02-19 10:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why is it with so many men now out of work and needing jobs is our infrastructure in this nation on par with a lot of third world countries -- crumbling bridges, pitted highways, pot holes, etc. No excuse for it.

#1 | Posted by CalifChris

Medicare and SS are crowding out spending for everything else at the national level. And state and local governments are laying off teachers and police because they can't afford the retirements of the ones who've already left. Every day conservatives demand entitlement reform and the Dems tell us to go screw ourselves, the liberals rubber-stamp the notion of having ever-bigger chunks of taxpayer dollars going to rich retirees instead of to anything else.

#4 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-19 10:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

I heard a car crashed into it. They were doing construction across the street. Maybe they had exposed the line and the crash caused enough damage to start the explosion. My wife was walking the baby and dog when she heard the explosion she thought it was right across the street.

I was just going to dinner there a few weekends ago!

#5 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2013-02-19 10:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bruce,

I know you said you work right there....do you live there too?

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2013-02-19 10:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Medicare and SS are crowding out spending for everything else at the national level. And state and local governments are laying off teachers and police because they can't afford the retirements of the ones who've already left....

You whine about the cost of SS, Medicare, and folks' pensions, but there's never a war -- anywhere in the world-- that the Republicans in Congress wouldn't be willing and able to scratch up enough money to fund if they got the chance. Blood money -- and the chance to make more of it. That's where the GOP's true priorities lie.

#7 | Posted by CalifChris at 2013-02-19 11:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good news then. Won't be any money for that either.

#8 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-19 11:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Chris,

That is not how it is here.

A gas line with any detectable leak is shut down and red flagged. I would guess this was a sudden rupture not a slow neglected leak. Granted that is a guess, but I do have years of experience with gas lines and a license to work on gas appliances so it's not a completely uneducated guess.

#3 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2013-02-19 10:20 PM


The one I wrote about was mentioned in the news and pertained to a city in Ohio. In fact, the report stated the slow gas leak (coming from a crack in a pipe in the middle of a street) was so strong it once set off a woman's carbon monoxide alarm inside her nearby home. The news report said the natural gas leaks are red tagged by the gas company -- and then rechecked every few weeks until the scheduled repair has been made to make sure the leak had not gotten larger -- but some minor leaks are not repaired for sometimes a few months or more. Sounded like a dangerous policy to me and was perhaps the reason why the news station felt the need to do a report on it.

#9 | Posted by CalifChris at 2013-02-19 11:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bushes fault

-Leftnuts

#10 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2013-02-20 12:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Eb;

Yes. I live within sight of it. She felt the explosion.

#11 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2013-02-20 12:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

#4 | Posted by uglyblinddate

Complete BS but you probably new that anyway

#12 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2013-02-20 06:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Chris,

You are right that is a dangerous as heck policy. I can not belive that the government would allow a gas company to get away with that. Around here sure they could wait months to fix it but since the line would be shut down until it was fixed they would loose thousands if not millions to lost business on the line. A red tagged line should not be in operation, hence the red tag!

Granted NG is not as combustible as some people think it is nothing to play with either you never know what could be near the leak allowing the gas to congregate and hit the necessarily fuel-air mix for combustion.

Of course I'll take NG over LP any day. I would much rather deal with a leak that will tend to float away than one that will tend to puddle on the ground.

#13 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2013-02-20 07:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

Nope. And I think it's beautiful. I'm going to finally get the small government I want, and the selfish Baby Boomers are going to be the way we get there.

#14 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-20 07:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

Missouri Gas Energy said: "Early indications are that a contractor doing underground work struck a natural gas line, but the investigation continues."
I can't see any car accident from the CNN footage, but a car accident and a contractor makes at least 2 probable deaths right there. The walls of JJ's facing the street probably would be where people might be located, but firemen appear to keep hosing it down and not going through the immediate rubble. Crazy.

#15 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2013-02-20 09:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bushes fault
-Leftnuts
#10 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2013-02-20 12:17 AM

www.sfgate.com"www.sfgate.com/a">Bush plays his deficit shell game
David Lazarus
Published 4:00 am, Friday, October 15, 2004

..
So let's recap: The Bush administration finds itself unable to operate within the boundaries of the highest debt ceiling in U.S. history, so its solution is to get by on other people's money until it can secure approval to run up even more debt.

Pro-growth policies indeed.

"It certainly highlights the disconnect between rhetoric and reality," said Harry Zeeve, national field director for the Concord Coalition, a bipartisan budget watchdog group.

"The government is not living within its means," he said. "It's not unlike having to raise the limit on your credit-card account, and that's a dangerous thing. Eventually you'll have to pay a price for it."

Rising national debt reflects the cumulation of continuing annual deficits. It poses a risk of higher interest rates for everything from home mortgages to car loans.

Soaring national debt also represents a danger that the nation's creditors, including a number of foreign governments, will grow distrustful of our mounting IOUs and eventually ask for their money back.

In any case, Bush isn't the first president to exploit the $56 billion Government Securities Investment Fund, or G-Fund, for a little fiscal sleight of hand.

That honor, a Treasury Department spokeswoman told me, goes to the president's dad, George H.W. Bush, who tapped government workers' pension money in 1989 when confronted with a fast-approaching debt ceiling of $2.8 trillion.

President Bill Clinton did the same in 1996 when faced with a $4.9 trillion debt limit and a nasty budget battle with Congress

#16 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2013-02-20 09:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

But the current occupant of the White House has made the most aggressive use of the tactic -- and required the most frequent increases in his administration's debt load.

According to the Treasury Department, Bush has had his Treasury secretary dip into the G-Fund every year for the past three years as government spending wildly exceeded revenues.

During this same period, Bush has pushed through a series of tax cuts while pursuing ambitious domestic and foreign-policy agendas, including two wars and an overhaul of the Medicare system.

"I don't know how seriously we can take Bush's attitude toward fiscal responsibility," said Alan Auerbach, an economist at UC Berkeley. "He has very little credibility on this issue."

In his letter to Congress, Snow vowed that all cash taken from the government pension fund eventually will be restored and that beneficiaries will feel "as if this temporary action had never taken place."

Meanwhile, the White House announced Thursday that the budget deficit this year totaled $413 billion, which is a record in dollar terms but not as a percentage of the overall economy.

Administration officials, with all the exuberance of a kid who got a D in algebra instead of an F, were quick to note that the $413 billion deficit is much better than the $521 billion shortfall they'd been forecasting earlier in the year. ..

#17 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2013-02-20 09:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fixed the link:
Bush plays his deficit shell game

#18 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2013-02-20 09:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

My friends form HS lives one block from that place. Earlier that day the cops came and told them they needed to leave; NOW! placed them in some temporary house and they were allowed back today. I'm just glad he is safe. He said it looks like a bomb went off.

#19 | Posted by GotTruth at 2013-02-21 02:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

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