Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, February 19, 2013

A barrage of malicious cyber-attacks against computer networks in the United States and other countries over several years has been sourced by a private US security firm to a single building on the fringes of Shanghai, which, it says, is occupied by the Chinese military.

Advertisement

Menu

Advertisement

Subscriptions

Author Info

HeliumRat

 

Advertisement

MORE STORIES

 

Advertisement

More

A 60-page report released by Mandiant, a Virginia-based firm that specialises in cyber-espionage, concludes that hundreds or perhaps thousands of English-speaking Chinese computer experts toil daily inside the anonymous-looking 12-storey building in the Pudong district of Shanghai. ‘Unit 61398', as it is known, hacks into foreign networks on behalf of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), Mandiant alleges.

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Personal attacks, profanity, abusive conduct and expressions of prejudice are not allowed. If you have comments about site moderation, contact the site publisher in email.

Lets ignore it.

-Liberals

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2013-02-19 08:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let's bomb it.

--The Chickenhawks

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-19 08:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let's date it's daughter.

- Ted Nugent

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-19 08:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

So Obama I dare your butt to drone that building!

#4 | Posted by zack991 at 2013-02-19 09:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anyone know how to make a prank call in Chinese?

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2013-02-19 09:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anyone know how to make a prank call in Chinese?

ring...ring...ring

什 么 您 要 知 道

ha ha ha ha ha ha

#6 | Posted by CalifChris at 2013-02-19 10:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

That place is about ten miles from my apartment, right up Line 1 on the metro station. Maybe I'll drop by and say hello.

#7 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-19 10:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

"That place is about ten miles from my apartment"

seriously?

Do they have American takeout in China?

It would be funny if you delivered them some.

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2013-02-19 10:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anyone know why UBD stopped posting?

#9 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2013-02-19 10:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Every American knows that the best way to get out of a jam is to have a big pile of pizzas and Coke delivered to the nearest police station. Couple of weeks ago a good friend here made a mistake on his importation forms, which said that he was bringing in 7 bottles of champagne, when it was actually 7 cases. The Chinese, according to law and custom, were about to impound the entire order above the 7 bottles, as customs taxes had only been remitted on the 7 bottles.

Couple of other buddies of mine were dispatched to the customs office with Papa John's, cases of Coca Cola, and a lot of contrition. The Chinese guy in charge agreed to let them keep the 7 bottles here, and return the shipment to Canada, and didn't even make them pay the fee for re-importation, just the customs tax on the difference. A $28,000 problem solved for about two hundred bucks. Every ex-pat keeps a few thousand RMB on hand for such an eventuality--lost passport, mess-up on paperwork. It's much easier to get things done here in Communist China than anywhere else in North America or Europe. Give a guy a sandwich and a good attitude, and anything is there for the asking. Just gotta know how to ask.

#10 | Posted by uglyblinddate at 2013-02-19 10:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've been told by Chinese people that everyone in government in that country is corrupt.

#11 | Posted by Tor at 2013-02-19 10:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ahhh China.

Note how China said nothing yesterday when NK said they were going to wipe out SK? The world called out in outrage...
Chinese giggled behind closed doors!!

#12 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2013-02-20 08:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

But hey, let's filibuster any bill designed to bring outsourced jobs back from our enemies, the Chinese. And yes, they are our enemies, if you haven't figured that out yet you are probably a Republican. The Cold War never really ended, it just became a sneaky undermining of our economy taking advantage of some American's greed.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2013-02-20 08:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

But they are enemies that will manufacture our electronic crap for pennies per hour, so the threat to national security is far outweighed by the benefits that the big bag of campaign cash (corporate america) receives.

#14 | Posted by 726 at 2013-02-20 08:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

By today's standards we would have fought WWII with Mitsubishi Zeros. Hey, they were much cheaper than American planes.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2013-02-20 09:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

And yes, they are our enemies, if you haven't figured that out yet you are probably a Republican.

Riiight. The democrats are sooooo pro military, pro American, pro not taking crap from other countries.

Puff, Puff, pass, Danni..

#16 | Posted by boaz at 2013-02-20 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Riiight. The democrats are sooooo ... pro not taking crap from other countries.
#16 | Posted by boaz

They don't want to offend anyone

#17 | Posted by path at 2013-02-20 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

"They don't want to offend anyone"

Path you have a shockingly short memory.

Our President sent troops into Pakistan to get Bin Laden.

In case you've never heard of Pakistan it's a predominantly muslim country with nuclear weapons.

#18 | Posted by Tor at 2013-02-20 01:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Path you have a shockingly short memory.

They all do. That is why the echo chamber every so often tries to push "There were no terrorist attacks on US soil while George W. Bush was president".

#19 | Posted by 726 at 2013-02-20 02:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

But hey, let's filibuster any bill designed to bring outsourced jobs back from our enemies, the Chinese. And yes, they are our enemies, if you haven't figured that out yet you are probably a Republican. The Cold War never really ended, it just became a sneaky undermining of our economy taking advantage of some American's greed.
#13 | Posted by danni at 2013-02-20 08:21 AM

The Republicans outsourced as much manufacturing and tech industries as they possibly could throughout the 80's and 90's, then utterly gutted what was left of the 80's middle class incomes with the purposefully orchestrated "failing" out of banking and housing while "global" corporate entities reaped trillions. Even today most monetary wealth still goes into offshore accounts of the American top 1% parasite society and right now we have over 46% of Americans living below the poverty level.

The age of cyber attack has been and gone, imo - right now it's merely entities pretending to be hacked by each other, selling data, mining for more.

Everyone, particularly "conservatives" should watch Washington Journal.

#20 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2013-02-20 02:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

'They all do. That is why the echo chamber every so often tries to push "There were no terrorist attacks on US soil while George W. Bush was president".'

The first time I heard that claim my brain must have gone into clinical shock mode for I couldn't remember 9/11 for a couple of minutes.

#21 | Posted by Tor at 2013-02-20 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

#21... the echo chamber is nothing if not persistent. Every few months they will trot out a right wing pinhead to reiterate that baloney hoping no one is paying attention. All they need to do is get it out in one news cycle without it be bitch slapped and it becomes a "fact" in wing ding world.

#22 | Posted by 726 at 2013-02-20 03:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

#18 & #19: I stand corrected. You both were more than willing to offend me. Are you sure you're democrats?

lighten up, I was just trying to throw some sparks into the fire.

#23 | Posted by path at 2013-02-20 06:25 PM | Reply | Flag:


The age of cyber attack has been and gone, imo - ...
#20 | Posted by redlightrobot

So, are you a professional IT SME in Network Security?

I am in the business many years and this is news to me, I'll have to tell my peers and clients there is nothing to worry about anymore.

#24 | Posted by path at 2013-02-20 06:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Mr. Chairman, take down this firewall.

#25 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2013-02-20 07:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I stand corrected. You both were more than willing to offend me. Are you sure you're democrats? lighten up, I was just trying to throw some sparks into the fire."

Does this qualify as an admission of trolling?

#26 | Posted by Tor at 2013-02-20 07:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not if I Could be the first accused of it in the DR, otherwise let it be as it seems.

#27 | Posted by path at 2013-02-20 09:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

I am in the business many years and this is news to me, I'll have to tell my peers and clients there is nothing to worry about anymore.

#24 | Posted by path

Where is the profit in that for you? Seems to me you would be shooting yourself in the foot.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-21 01:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Obama executive order seeks better defense against cyber attacks"

www.reuters.com

#29 | Posted by danni at 2013-02-21 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

#28: That was a satirical comment to an obvious dumb statement made. Besides, although I have to deal with security folks in my job, it is not part of what I do. Hackers don't keep me employed, business needs for high end computing does.

#30 | Posted by path at 2013-02-21 01:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

#29 | Posted by danni

Law enforcement and educational tools are useless as a response to hackers residing in China. And unless the diplomatic and trade law tools are ratcheted up to near-trade-war levels – which the Strategy does not propose, and which I seriously doubt will happen – they are almost certain not to have much of an impact on the problem of Chinese cyber exploitation, especially if, as the USG maintains, the Chinese are reaping such huge rewards from cyber theft. (emphasis added) www.lawfareblog.com

#31 | Posted by et_al at 2013-02-21 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hackers don't keep me employed, business needs for high end computing does.

#30 | Posted by path

I am also in the IT field and they are sure keeping me busy. There are patches out for my operating systems AND now applications almost every week now. Sometimes twice a week.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-21 03:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good point DB! I'm on the infrastructure side of the biz and have to deal with scheduling OS patches. We have AV servers automating some of it.

#33 | Posted by path at 2013-02-21 06:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

We have AV servers automating some of it.

#33 | Posted by path

We have a WSUS server for most of the OS updates but as of yet I have not come up with a sensible solution for patching the various apps. I need an app for that. Of course, then that app will need patching....

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-21 07:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Plus all that patching kills our bandwidth.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2013-02-21 07:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Advertisement

Post a comment

Comments are closed for this entry.

Drudge Retort

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Nooner | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2013 World Readable

 

Advertisement